Two Dictators

00:00 Nyan-nyan! Adam Curry, John C. DeVorak It's Thursday June 14th 2018 This is your award-winning Get One Nation Media assassination episode 1042! This is no agenda Compiling communiques and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas In the Cludio In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley precluding Northern Korea I'm John C. DeVorak Guys aren't even close to northern Korea. I know Not yet at least wait until it becomes our 51st state yeah, that would be something Yeah, I kind of expected Trump to take him jung-un said dude. I'll drop you off here hop in there force one Okay, yes Actually that would have been fun He should have done that yeah he showed him the beast I saw that there was a little uh

01:03 Little photo op when he said, hey come take a look at my car. Looking inside the car. The beast yeah. Rather strange but boy that was something I couldn't actually turn it off. I had to watch it. I had to stay glued to see what was going to happen anyway. It was quite the event. I watched and I got the two discrepant. They got a lot of clips in some of them. I guess we don't need to play but I gotta fact let me do a quick summary clip because it was very interesting to listen to the difference between the CBS reports and NBC. NBC trashed it, and CBS which even had Mike Morrell on on The Overnight Show didn't really... they were still like

01:49 Apparently, I guess the memo hasn't come out yet on how to deal with this so that he was actually pretty nice about it Yeah, I got the years. They get that no co-redux ISO So wait, this is Hallie Jackson from NBC summarizing the situation in North Korea extermination murder enslavement torture imprisonment rape crimes against humanity You know, just before you get into your... because I see what you have clip-wise. And for those of you who are new to the program we have no idea what we're bringing to the table. I can just see some titles here. Let me just play Shep Smith because it relates to that. Shep Smith on Fox News was the actual proof that Democrats run Fox News and I guess... It must be hard to be Shep Smith

02:38 And by the way, it looks as though now Comcast is going to outbid Disney because of this stupid court case with this idiot judge which I have to look into. Let's get into that in a minute because... I'm just gonna say it's just more proof that you know... Oh who was running the show? Yeah well we'll get into that with net neutrality But poor Shep, man. It must be hard being a good gay in today's America if you work for Fox News So I give the guy some grace on what he says. This Tuesday afternoon the talk happened hands shaken photos taken and during a private meeting promises were apparently made but who wanted what?

03:15 Well, America demanded complete verifiable and irreversible denuclearization. Hold on a second did America demand that? Was that the demands of the administration or was that demands of the media And I couldn't find the genesis of that. I don't know anybody who demanded it! Everyone was talking about CVID, CVID We need CVID and everybody on the cable news networks at least So anyway that was what America demanded maybe in the heartland CVID complete verifiable irreversible denuclearization There is no guarantee of that not even words to that effect

03:54 And we may not know for years whether we're actually now on that road or left in the potholes of paths past. Nice! But Kim Jong-un, he wanted the photos, the seat at the table He wanted the legitimacy that came with the event The handshake with America's president and he wanted those military exercises with the Americans and South Koreans that happen every year to stop Kim Jong-Un got it all for actually doing nothing. Plus, he got a promise lacking specifics granted of security for the North Korean regime A regime that has an estimated 120 thousand political prisoners across the nation Now so this number this one hundred and twenty thousand Everyone has it It's actually between eighty and a hundred and twenty thousand And I was like you know

04:45 We've heard this and we've heard about him killing his brother, and killing his uncle, and feeding him to the dogs. Most of this has been debunked And you know he didn't kill his brother His brother apparently was poisoned at an airport on his way to China He's a strange brother going back to Macau and two women came up and rubbed some poison on his face And he died minutes later But of course that's what Kim did But I really wanted to understand these, you know the political prisoners the gulags and i did a lot of research and it's all in the show notes. And there is nothing other than what comes out of the United Nations and, of course, Human Rights Watch. Human Rights Now a lot of the USAID related organizations I'm not saying that it's not true but i'd like a little more proof All we see is the constant satellite photos Here it is! This is the prison camp You can see my house from Google Maps Yet we can't see one person working in the field getting beaten up or anything

05:47 It reeks a little bit of other stuff we've seen come out of the United Nations research into human rights violations. Not saying it hasn't happened, not saying it's not happening I'd just like a little more proof and a little more than... Yeah there is no.. The proof is very scant And you're right. The satellite today, satellite images can... You can see people in the street and follow people and we get none of that! I mean you tell me that... We don't see anybody there it looks like abandoned areas. You tell me the Google Maps car is not there in North Korea? That thing's everywhere so that should be on the streets But it's, they always say 120 and this number has been this way since 2014 when the last report came out. So there's been no change in four years apparently It's 120 thousand political prisoners There is torture And rape Yeah, there are a couple of really good debunkings of all the people that Kim Jong-un apparently has killed

06:42 You know, like even the... The shot his uncle with a 50 cal machine gun fed him to the dogs. Turns out it was a blogger in China who was just making some joke Yeah, but that of course got taken as fact. So I just like a little more and not from the typical sources that are just at this point untrustworthy. A regime that tortures and murders its own citizens, imprisons children for the actions of parents and grandparents, and a leader who has committed crimes against humanity President Trump called the North Korean dictator very talented and praised him. The United Nations has called him one of the most brutal and repressive regimes in modern history." So I'm completely open to believing that this guy has continued this complete horrific oppressive regime, i'm open to it! I just like a little more than the same talking points on it... all right

07:38 That is a madman and by the way another besides NBC going negative and CBS going kind of neutral. Colbert I didn't get you know i watch the show looking for clips, it was just anti trump stuff in any somehow. Segway to the raccoon going up the side of a building that had that kept everyone's attention for a minute This is Fox and Friends as the president is arriving in Singapore listen see if you can catch the gaffe there is The United States Donald Trump

08:15 about to walk down those stairs stepping foot in Singapore as we await this historic summit with the North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un. Anthony, talk to us about this moment I mean this is history we are living regardless of what happens in that meeting between the two dictators what we are seeing right now... Did you catch the gaffe? No! I'll play it the relevant bit once again Regardless of what happens in that meeting between the two dictators, what we are seeing right now... I love that. Two dictators... That's the best one! That's clip of the day already, I'm giving it to you, I'm very generous. Isn't that great? What a bunch of morons. Two dictators yeah it's historic these dictators from Fox good work more proof more proof the Democrats are in. The media is pretty neutral on this stuff

09:17 Well, I had the only gaff I could find is Nora from The Morning Show. She... see if you can hear what I... maybe I'm wrong but she uses like the thing that broadcasters are never supposed to say nuclear. Nuclear? So listen to Nora DeNuke, I've got two of them. Oh. Which is the short one? The short one... No, just play it along with in the short one. President Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un finished an unprecedented meeting in Singapore with a deal to start denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula. Denucularizing. Denuclearizing. Denuclearizing. Denuclearizing. Denuclearizing. Denuclearizing. Denuclearizing.

10:06 Should be denuclearizing. Denuclearizing, nuclearizing. Not nuclear-lurising. Denuclearizing. Well how about this guy from Stephanopoulos on ABC? Thank you very much everybody! And another handshake there for President Trump and Kim Jong Un Wow, we're on a roll day. President Chump? President Chump! Was it Chump? No he said Chump. President Chump or Trump. Yeah this is fabulous very good all right you got I gotta get that's my gaffes I only have deconstruction from this point on

10:53 I don't have any more gaps either. Well, if you want to start straight we can do the CBS stuff that was done and CBS has this...I'm starting to think this is the show to get to watch Uh, it's Jeff Glore is on it too. I don't know why, but this is the CBS overnight which is like the network news only as long guards over and out. It's actually quite good to kind of get into topics a little longer they've talked testing for their main broadcast you can tell yeah has been fully edited and It's just better than and then people actually walking on and standing I believe Yeah, they walk onto the set and they stand and then they do their little ditty. I like it. I've seen it I think it's enjoy three in the morning. Yes That's the unenjoyable part about it yeah That's the problem But let's start with that would do the rap get it going these are all short clips So I have a lot of this what they're pretty own one minute is started no-go CBS wrap one get to work And get it completed because otherwise

11:57 We've done a good job, but if you don't get the ball over the goal line. It doesn't mean enough, okay? Mr. Trump also announced an end to joint U.S.-South Korea military exercises a goal long sought by North Korea The move surprised many at the Pentagon and in Seoul We'll be saving a tremendous amount of money plus I think it's very provocative The summit was a spectacle with Kim even comparing it to a science fiction movie By the way did you see the defense stocks after he said that He said, now we got to stop these war games. It costs a lot of money is bull crap really. Boom! He says it's provocative which it was they took that part by the way that part of the clip yes it was this provocative was taken out of the network news oh really? Oh really interesting yeah they did left that out and so the theme wasn't it was also in this report a little bit

12:53 And we talked about this on the show, about them doing this. So I don't believe it was a surprise to anybody. I think this is false reporting. Was it a surprise to you that he stopped? Because it was one of the main cornerstones... It wasn't surprised to the military industrial complex at least the investors everyone knew I saw these stocks go down. I'm gonna ask you, was it a surprise do you know That was a surprise to me. And then they say, and then Colbert and everybody else goes off about all he's just did this other spur of the moment he didn't tell anybody in the Pentagon is they're going nuts because they weren't told. And I'm immediately reminded of him. I didn't have time to go find it and we don't need to find it but I can remind people cause they should remember it. We had McMaster give a long lecture. It was on public or on C-SPAN and during that lecture somebody asked him about uh

13:46 When does he find out about stuff? Trump will say something and as you know, is he shocked that Trump wants to do something. He says no, he's never shocked because the That stream of command from him down And the president up is different. He says we always find out very late in a game We don't find out they don't call us an asses for permission To make make this do something like that They just you know I make it decision to do it and then it gets worked out right and it's not a big deal But all the news guys are thinking it's a huge deal. In fact, I think the NBC went nuts about it so okay well...

14:22 So just reminding people that this is these reports are pretty poor. Yes. And Mr Trump showed Kim this video showcasing a glowing new North Korean economic future, the president said North Korea had beautiful beaches ready for condominium development from a real estate perspective of South Korea and I love this because i'm just thinking exactly what John said years ago Perfect for tourism. Trump will come in with his real estate pitch, which I think he did very well. China and they own the land in the middle how bad is that right? Last year the president called North Korea with its abysmal human rights record wicked and depraved Today He said he trusts the dynastic young dictator after just one face-to-face meeting. Oh, he's smart Loves his people. He loves this country. He wants a lot of good things And that's why he's doing this

15:21 Major, this joint statement also addressed the remains of Americans missing in action or held as prisoners of war during the Korean War. This was so important to so many families what did it say? Yeah, that was a nice touch.

16:02 Yeah, and that was dropped from the reporting later as an item. It was a nice touch and it did... you know my resultants I mean Kim's done this we got nothing he already released three prisoners He stopped all his tests he hasn't launched a missile You know what? What i didn't hear really from anybody was any analysis of the communique Which is my favorite word now after we've had a communique from the G7. I think that's what most of the analysis was, but it didn't say anything. The communique didn't happen? Well the communique did say something. What was it? Point three reaffirming the April 27 2018 pam-nyum-jom-jom declaration the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization, de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula and so you need to go

16:55 Panmunjom Declaration, which was the agreement I believe crafted by us between North and South Korea. And there's a lot in there about what they're going to do. Good. So let me see... Disarmament in a phased manner military tensions alleviated substantial progress has made in military confidence building South and North Korea confirmed the common goal. The news was not getting right. They were not getting close to it, this is true now Well let me just read the one paragraph South and North Korea confirmed the common goal of realizing through complete denuclearization a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula South and North Korea shared the view that the measures being initiated by North Korea are very meaningful and crucial for the Denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula and agreed to carry out their respective roles and responsibilities in this regard

17:51 South and North Korea agreed to actively seek the support and cooperation of the international community for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. This was not even read to us when it took place, which is why I went to find it when I saw wait a minute this document refers to that document as how this stuff has always done what good is that going to do to talk about this? It's not anti-Trump enough! Sorry my mistake I'll never make it And then the thing that goes further was, this is part of the third clip here on The Overnight Show. This is where they brought Morell in and it was, again this a show that goes on at three in the morning I don't know what time they taped but I'm sure Morell went to bed

18:34 But he didn't get his paperwork from the agency. Oh, oh he did tell him what to say? No We're gonna move now to Margaret Brennan our senior foreign affairs Correspondent and moderator face the nation also Michael Morrell former deputy CIA director and now our CBS News senior security contributor Margaret what happens now well it The president gave himself a lot of wiggle room today. He said I may stand up here in six months and say, hey, I was wrong so he's given himself some room there. He also gave the North Koreans room to maneuver as well next up Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has to become a salesman. He is going to South Korea to try to explain what was agreed upon in the room that wasn't on that written statement

19:18 was released to all of us. Then he goes to China and, of course they have the most leverage over North Korea and he'll speak to their leadership about making North Korea follow through on what they at least say are said to have agreed upon in the room but diplomats say there is still a lot of detail yet to be determined Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Advisor John Bolton will meet again with the North Koreans next week to hammer out those details Michael, in your estimation what did the president achieve at this summit? Jeff, this was a diplomatic win for the United States but we are far from a strategic win. It was a diplomatic win because it was the best possible outcome of the summit shared objectives to denuclearize and an agreement to continue negotiations were far from a strategic win because there are immense details to work through

20:15 Okay, some great analysis tonight with Margaret Brennan and Michael Morrell. Thanks to both of you! I love... Hey, some great analysis really that was not great analysis. No no no. It was just blathering. Pretty pathetic. I want to play this clip out of order which is NoCo newspapers and media analysis. North Korean videos demonize the US as an existential threat, and suggest North Korea has to prepare to target the White House or destroy the Capitol. But today's state newspaper seems to mark the Singapore summit as a shift

20:52 Newspaper photos feature Kim and Trump smiling and leaning into each other. As jarring as it is for an American audience to see, um, an American president smiling broadly and shaking the hands with a North Korean dictator It's orders of magnitude more disturbing or more, uh, jarring for the North Korean population To see their leader doing the same with President Trump I think this is really quite significant And I think it shows to the-to the North Korean people and government officials in particular that Kim Jong-un is very firmly behind this diplomatic process and its success. But interpreting North Korea is no science, an optimism could easily be replaced with venom argues Suu Kyim

21:37 North Korea has a history of using its state media, it's a propaganda tool. So coming after Kim's return trip from Singapore where he obviously got the propaganda boost he was able to shut off his public image as this ruthless dictator And the North Korean or DPRK statement about the summit has some analysts worried that Kim won't shed his violent past. The statement reads, if the US side takes genuine measures for building trust, the DPRK too can continue to take additional goodwill measures and it is important to abide by the principle of step-by-step and simultaneous action suggesting North Korea is buying time rather than being serious about denuclearization

22:21 There you go, there's some propaganda for buying time for what I'm Did to buy in time to blow us up to double-cross? They're going broke these guys are buying time for what if you know the analysis was so poor Everything. I saw which I mean right down not even reading the damn documents that was PBS by the way figures So they're not telling us anything. They just befuddled by this whole, it's like some crazy thing that went on and then they talk about well they will give Trump credit for kind of meeting him but when you go to NBC and listen to their thesis it's all oh hey they've given this maniac, this violent maniac which is okay violent maniac now he's been given legitimacy

23:14 That's all Trump accomplished was giving this horrible person legitimacy. And it's like, holy mackerel! I mean we can't... you know this guy... I don't get it personally why we have to be that way? It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm not that way. It's not healthy that's for sure No. Well, let's go to NBC and listen to this is the NBC sees it differently and I have four short clips And everyone has like a punchline that I that's why I broke it up into that but let's start with one How can the US be sure? A key missing ingredient, no requirement that Kim Jong-un disclose how many weapons he has or where they are hidden. There's always the possibility that North Korea can hide things in thousands of miles of underground tunnels which you cannot verify. You can only verify what they declare and that is why the declaration is so important What else is missing from the summit document? No definition of denuclearization. No details on verification

24:17 Tonight lawmakers, even some Republicans say it's too vague. This is an agreement in principle It's not an agreement that can be enforced this is an idea I don't know that there's anything to that of concrete nature yet to trust if you know what I'm saying. Still the president says this is just a beginning, that he has accomplished something no other president could... A meeting with the North Korean leader but did get enough in return? Now the task is really put meat on the bones Secretary Pompeo will have to start negotiations right away see if there can be any concrete steps are taken towards denuclearization

24:57 And Secretary of State Pompeo leaves for Seoul and Beijing tomorrow to try to turn the summit promises into reality. Lester? All right, Andrea Mitchell thank you As events unfolded here in Singapore South Korea was looking on with high stakes in the outcome and when President Trump announced he's halting military exercises with them it seems he not only surprised the South Koreans but US forces in the region too NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel is in Seoul and has reaction for us tonight I will say that i found the entire event, the press parts of the event to be well produced. I saw drone shots setting up the venue you know they had cranes...I mean it was well done! The first jib? That was..they had a jib in North Korea. Well no, only in Singapore. No, in Singapore. I'm sure wasn't the first jib in Singapore.

25:54 But I did, I saw drone shots in the beginning too. And you know just the timing of it all... It was nicely done! It was nicely done. I thought it was a good television event. The Singaporeans they're thinking... They put all their effort behind it. Talking about a dictatorship there you go but nobody wants to mention that do they? No no. But Singapore probably went all-in because he said hey we can have these international meetings this brings us a lot of cash let's give show them a good time I'm sure the food was fantastic. They don't talk about that much Oh, did you see the menu which went? Which oh shoot there was a menu for their lunch on the really from Menu Kim Trump lunch hold on let me find it for ya. It was really good Let's see the lunch while the rest of people are starving Yeah, let me see here it is On the menu they had four starters traditional

26:54 Prawn cocktail with avocado salad, green mango caribou with honey lime dressing and fresh octopus. Korean stuffed cucumber then short rib confit served with potato dauphinois and steamed broccoli red wine sauce combination of sweet-and-sour crispy pork and yangzu fried rice with homemade zuzhu chili Degu jorim, soy braised codfish with radish and Asian vegetables. And then for dessert which I'm sure the media obsessed over... In fact they heard them dark chocolate tartlet ganache and Haagen-Dazs vanilla ice cream with cherry coulis and tropicienne. I don't know half of what that stuff is

27:42 I know what most of it is, but how did Haagen-Dazs get into the act? Someone got a promotion. Somebody got yes! That's a good one. Good point. Yeah sounds delicious. Sure was tasty Yes So they had a good time at dinner...at lunch Lunch Anyway, well so Richard they bring it. They talk they do the same thing on NBC Oh everyone's stunned stunned that they're gonna stop these exercises Now the main problem was always thought they should have I want those exercises were provocative in it and the Chinese are part of The reason today would there were he irked about him with the

28:24 It was South Korea who sent out a communique saying, uh we're not quite sure what he means by that. And that's what sparked it all off so there was some miscommunication amongst the parties I think that was exaggerated. I don't think for a minute... Oh you know, damnit! I didn't even think to look into it You're right Yeah, these guys aren't you know and especially since South Korea is initiating a lot of this. They obviously know the ropes they'd know that it's annoying to do these exercises that looks like they're just gonna attack any minute

29:07 So why would they all of a sudden be so stunned? It doesn't make any sense. I'm looking at ABC as reports emerged that the South Korean government was surprised by the announcement to suspend exercises questions were raised if US policymakers were also caught off guard, so the questions were raised this might have been just from sources You know you're absolutely right that may have been exaggerated good point damn it They're just doing everything they can to, I mean these the people that are doing this are just anti-american it seems to me. But let's go to part two now there now we have Richard Engel who's brought out of the Middle East where you know he's in

29:49 Native Arabic speaker and he said they're bringing us put him in and he's the big negative Nelly. He's that is the CIA plant We kind of figured he's a guy who voted against the idea or suggested that Feinstein should not release that CIA report about torture heaven forbid which gave him away as far as I'm concerned And he's the guy who did that phony report where he was supposedly captured. The guy is just not... Yeah, and he was also the guy who had the... Look! Russian hackers! But he was in Moscow on a hotel Wi-Fi or some shit like that. Yeah I believe that was him too. Okay so let's play this listen to him

30:27 Across South Korea today, hope this historic handshake means peace is finally in the air. President Moon Jae-in who met Kim Jong Un to help organize this summit said he was so excited he couldn't sleep last night but now focus here is turning to that curveball president Trump saying while US troops would remain in South Korea no more war games We will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money unless and until we see that the future negotiation is not going along like it should. But twice annual war games and joint exercises are the cornerstone of the military alliance between the US and South Korea. We visited them extensively in F-16s on firing ranges

31:21 on patrol, always told by commanders they're essential for the safety of South Korea and American troops and their families based here. But apparently no one told the South Koreans President Trump promised Chairman Kim he'd scrap them." Now I have some quotes here interestingly from HuffPo Headline, South Korea blindsided by Trump war games agreement And here's what they have quote wise Trump made the remarks at a news conference after summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore calling war games expensive and quote provocative South Korea's presidential blue house Said it needed to quote to find out the precise meaning of intentions Of Trump statement while adding that it was willing to quote explore various measures to help the talks move forward more smoothly

32:17 So you're right, it was an exaggeration if that's all there was to it. They're saying I'm not quite sure what he means by that we'll find out. Yeah! Which brings me back to the McMaster quote. He says we don't know... The president of United States will say something and then gets down to us It's not like he is talking to us Yeah, and I know this is very interesting. I should have looked for these quotes earlier USFK which is the US United States Forces Korea? I think has received no update updated got updated guidance on execution or cessation of training exercises to include this false schedule said To include this false schedule all chief freedom guardian

33:00 US forces in Korea spokeswoman lieutenant-colonel Jennifer Lovett said in a statement quote, In coordination with our South Korean partners we will continue our current military posture until we receive updated guidance from the Department of Defense and or Indo Pacific Command. So this wasn't quite the outrage and wow blindsided and what it was At least not from the quotes, and this is HuffPost so I figure if they had worse quotes they'd put that in. But then... Yes? They just grab one South Korean official said he initially thought Trump had misspoke! I was shocked when he called the exercises provocative a very unlikely word to be used by US President The official said speaking on condition of anonymity because it was a politically sensitive issue

33:43 So the official statements are very different than this unofficial stuff that is, again anonymous sources. Nice! Okay good figured it out Yeah once again these guys are full of shit Kinda... So let's go to part three we got Engel out of the way Kim he'd scrapped them What? I said no, he didn't. He's still there. He'd scrap them a South Korean military official told NBC News we need to find out the exact meaning or intention behind his comments American forces in South Korea said they too received no updated guidance on execution or cessation of training exercises Canceling these war games is seen here as a major concession to North Korea

34:35 And this morning, North Korean media is reporting that Kim Jong-un demanded it and President Trump complied. Yeah of course. English again. Yeah probably. That's probably exactly what he said. Now the last clip of this group... yeah that's probably what they said The last clip of this group has got a I put Yao here because there's there's a real funny bit in here All right, Richard Engel in Seoul for us tonight Thank you one issue that did not receive much discussion during this summit was the brutal reality of life in North Korea Kim Jong-un's regime has been accused of appalling human rights violations against his own people as well As the mistreatment of American prisoners NBC's Holly Jackson has more on what wasn't said at this historic face to face before we get into that I was just thinking 80 to 120 thousand political prisoners is what they say. Oh

35:29 Yeah, we have two and a half million prisoners in America. Yeah two and a half million And I'm sure it'll prisoner's I'm sure they're all treated just fine In Singapore smiles and a stroll from Kim Jong-un but back home, a UN report paints a much more grim picture. One of extermination murder Last report the UN released was 2014 so I'm just saying it's this is old news i'd love to get an updated report. Enslavement, torture, imprisonment Back it up? Yeah look because her little laundry list of horrors is just face to face

36:09 In Singapore, smiles and a stroll from Kim Jong-un. But back home? A UN report paints a much more grim picture one of extermination murder enslavement torture imprisonment rape crimes against humanity Nah enough about Austin His country does love him his people you see the fervor they have a great fervor but what he calls fervour the UN calls indoctrination another in the long and disturbing list of human rights abuses Kim's accused of.

36:46 where we started and where we ended. President Trump didn't dwell on the negative instead repeatedly pointing to the positive. Hillary is a very talented man Kim Jong-un as you know has killed family members, has starved his own people is responsible for the death of Otto Warmbier why are you so comfortable calling him very talented? Well he's very talented anybody that takes over a situation like he did at 26 years of age and is able to Run it and run it tough. I don't say he was nice, but I think without Otto This would not have happened It was a year ago today that Warmbier was returned to the US in a coma He died within a week of coming home Yeah, that's an irritating fact yeah well We don't know this story because we don't have anybody But I always enjoy being told by the mainstream media as you know

37:46 He's killed family members. He fed them to the dogs! We really don't have... Again, I'm totally open to believing it but this just so... Yeah, I was reading this book One of Tina's daughters gave it to me to read actually you don't really read it because she said it's a graphic novel like oh That interesting I wonder what graphic novel means. It turns out its pictures You didn't know no, I didn't know and that's funny this guy is an animator And he wrote about his time in North Korea working with north with the North Korean animation company, and yeah, that's weird There's a lot wrong as no people in the In the big hotels

38:26 But, you know it didn't just didn't seem quite as bad from a gulag perspective. I mean the fact that there's people from other countries in there working and there's lots of them. There's NGOs they got to live they have parties on Friday night in one of those hotels. One reporter that was on The CBS Overnight is the guy we've seen him before he's always over there He's kind of a neutral reporter because it's like... He's the guest of the government or something. I'm not sure what to, how you play that game to do that kind of work but I'm sure one of these days we'll have a nice little book to tell... Yeah, I'm sure he will! I've got some responses here from my new favorite. I'm kind of moving away from Stephanie Ruhle then i'm moving on to Nicole Wallace

39:17 Now she hasn't, she's the midday segment. She is an old hack, she has been there forever! She is hateful and it's not... Oh she horrible! Yeah but I think there are some good clips to be had because she's... Well before you go there I just want to wrap up all my clips with my 11 second PBS summary Okay, the president today dismissed doubters and proclaimed the North Korean nuclear menace is over Instead he insisted quote our country's biggest enemy is the fake news Now that I'm glad you played that because that is indeed what he said let me replay this

39:58 How come that doesn't work? I think have to go back. The president today dismissed doubters and proclaimed the North Korean nuclear menace is over Instead he insisted quote our country's biggest enemy is the fake news Okay, so we said our country's biggest enemy is the fake news here CNN's discussion with broth and The chip Todd what's that guy One of these guys discussing, now remember the tweet was this country's enemy is the fake news. And he would rather just attack the media for daring to do our jobs which is kind of evaluate what he's doing. I mean it so unoriginal too there's no president or political figure who likes the media and so he's trying outdo Nixon. It's one thing not like

40:50 media. We've all worked in this news business for a long time, everybody's always criticizing us and not happy with our coverage whether it was President Clinton or President Bush or president Obama they're all criticized but it's another thing to say that you know it's not North Korea its not Iran if not Russia it's not China it's journalists like us who are the enemy of the American people. One things that bothers me most about the president is I don't even take what he's saying seriously It's that he is so casual about throwing out language and you really undermine the presidency when you do that because there will be a time after Donald Trump, believe it or not. And he is doing damage to this notion of do we believe what the president says? But we live in an environment where social media principally allows so much hyperbole

41:37 that now the president engages in it and it becomes kind of a bloodstream of our public discord where you could say something that over-the-top, and then it would be the President United States who says it. And I don't take it seriously which is a problem too because he's not really being serious when he says it It's a shame But a lot people do take it seriously Yes, that's the problem A lot of his supporters believe we are the enemy of the American people Yeah, they're true That is really really awful situation We are not the enemy of the American People So there's a lot to unpack there. We do, we really love you! We love you please! So they took fake... You know this is a case of he who fits the shoe puts it on He said fake news. He didn't say journalists. He didn't say the media. He said fake news And many a time he said in fact one of his recent press conferences he went off on fake The one that we had some clips from

42:33 he went off on the CNN guys fake news and then he talked to other people, says there's a lot of good for journalists. And he was very friendly with the number of them that were at that press conference but he just pointed out CNN. Trump himself says there's lots of good journalists out there. Yeah but these guys took it immediately to Trump says journalists and journalism I think even I heard their in the media is the actual end now I agree with that actual statement, but that's not what he said. I mean, I think you and I both agree the M5M is dangerous to people's health. Yes it's like opioids so anyway here's Nicole Wallace and with her just to give me an idea of how they think is board editorial board member from The New York Times and what was her name? Mara Gay

43:31 And here's their take on it. But this is not just a meeting about foreign policy, this is about Donald Trump's political survival He has said to friends that he plans on taking a win in North Korea to the voters That's their midterm message That's all they've got! That's right I mean that what actually so terrifying in part because... ...I think we're going into this and if were thinking about this realistically We know enough about President Trump to know that he's not going to come home and say that he failed He's gonna call us a win No matter what Rick Perry over there to help them build more nukes and say we won, we're in front of them now. And the North Koreans know that yeah That's right so-so we're already at such a disadvantage I think going into this and so then the question becomes well if he's going to frame this as a win what is that going to look like? What does it looks like in terms of sanctions, in terms of giving him you know international legitimacy that he didn't otherwise have and quite frankly I mean you look at the polls

44:22 It's really interesting because the more we're talking about North Korea, you know like the less we're talking about Russia. Right? The less were talking about issues at home and I think that's true for Kim as well. Why is New York Times editorial board so worried that they are not talking enough about Russia? Is it journalism? No, I don't know what's going on. That was a very bizarre clip that nobody listens to these guys except you by the way. I know, sorry. That is a very very bizarre clip

45:00 It's strange. Well, especially from the New York Times editorial board member I thought that was... Why are they concerned about? They're like trying to guide the news cycle instead of reporting it. Yeah that would be my accusation. That's what is said! That is what they said. Why do they care when they just do their jobs?! Wait a minute didn't Mika Brzezinski famously say that? Did she say we you'd we report. We tell you what to believe? Yes, I'm like that wish we had that clip. I might have that let me see Believe let me see maybe man now. I can't find it But anyway, do you know you that is said if it's hard to label except like that so it'll get lost one more try oh

45:49 Yeah, the challenge is on I am. I think I can find it you think? It's in here somewhere. No, I can't find it Sorry what I do have unless you have another clip. I have kind of a wrap-up that I thought was interesting It's a little longer clip but it really puts a lot of this into perspective from a very very different viewpoint Do you have anything else you want to... I'm good to go, yeah. Okay because i'm kind of looking for now what is the deconstruction? What is really going on? What is really happening here because we know nothing the only thing I know that I talked to the fish guy at the supermarket and he's South Korean He was born there Oh a source! A source! I said so what do you think

46:33 He says, well selfishly I really hope it doesn't happen. This is great that we don't have any war and all that would be great if people can visit their family but selfishly he said you know everybody in my hood they see this as well this is like East and West Germany and it's going to cost us a lot of money And quite clear just when were kicking ass with LG We own the entire pop music market K-pop course is gangbusters What are the Samsung? He says we're really kicking ass and we don't want to have to suffer with those damn North Koreans. To which I said, well maybe there's a match made in heaven if you take because apparently North Korea has a lot of resources

47:23 Like cell phone stuff type resources. Oh you mean Yeah, rare earth minerals and elements and all that so yeah make them mine ships put the factories up there with all the smoke up in North Korea if you want to look at it from a South Korean perspective And uh...you could be a real powerhouse I'm thinking Well, he's probably right on the surface but if you look at it in hindsight yes it was damaging for a short period but now the German Republic is stronger than ever. Now they rule all of Europe! Not then ever... not ever no they've had some winning moments. But they're strong So Steve Pachanik

48:06 Did one of his YouTube videos? And he did this on the 5th of June so a week before the actual summit and He talks of a trifecta Taking place, and he lauds. The president say this is all the presidents doing he's super smart and I think it's worth listening to because there's stuff in here that I had not considered and stuff we can look out for, and maybe we'll learn more about Pachanik at the same time. Whatever you hear or see on the surface has a completely opposite meaning in the covert world or in the world of the CIA Let me explain number one North Korea South Korea will get together in Singapore and Trump will create a process where there will be peace between North and South Korea

48:52 That was kind of dicey, but in fact Trump used everything he needed—denial distortion and deception. The most interesting part which is part two of this deal is the fact that Dr Bashar Assad the president of Syria is also interested in meeting with Kim Jong-un on North Korea now why is that relevant to what is happening now in Singapore? The reason it is relevant is that Dr. Bashar Assad, whom I've known indirectly and knew as father and have been interrogated by his people 10 years ago, he's a very smart man. He knows that he can no longer rule over country that's divided

49:31 and in turmoil. So he wants security, he wants to make sure that there's peace and he wants to work with Trump and North Korea now why would he work with North Korea because the Syrians and North Koreans have been together attacking Israel many decades ago but in fact Israel has worked with North Korea indirectly buying its phosphate and coal North Korea, despite all the sanctions has been exporting coal through Japan and Russia. So who is involved in this meeting besides North Korea South Korea and Japan? It will be Russia and it will be other countries in the Middle East who want peace

50:12 So we have a doubleheader here. While Trump is being attacked, he's also initiating a peace treaty between Bashar Assad Israel and Iran. Iran also works closely with North Korea and Iran also works closely with Israel. because in 2006 Israeli soldiers had Passover in Iran. In 2016 the Israelis were shipping oil and infrastructure, so much of what you hear on the surface is the complete opposite now for the trifecta The third person that's involved in all of this is John Brennan. I have criticized John Brennan, but I also understand how important he is to this process. Why? John Brennan has increased the amount of criticisms he's made against Trump

50:58 And that's not an accident. He has said that Trump is not democratic, he should not be president of the United States. What in fact he is doing as we do in the world of the CIA is covering his own mentee or protege and this case is Gina Haspel who working with Pompei has been very effective along with all the CIA operatives and military intelligence to put together an incredible peace treaty between North Korea, South Korea as well as a peace treaty with Syria Jordan Israel Iran and Russia will all come together. Now why am I so sure of this trifecta? Because more and more noise is coming out of these three elements North Korea

51:43 Russia and Syria, all of which make no sense on the surface. But when you think of it in paradoxical intention and you reverse all of the elements involved that is denial distortion deception You begin to see a picture which Trump could only have created because he thinks big He leverages his assets and covers his downside. So I expect it trifecta to come out of Singapore North Korea South Korea peace treaty Syria initiating a peace treaty and with Iran in Israel and Russia Initiating another treaty with Iran, Israel North Korea and China now I tried to paint this picture and I couldn't do it but I thought that's so outrageously

52:32 It's just an outrageous statement that I thought, let's pay attention to it. Well it's like the point of ridiculous optimism Yeah well he calls it the inverted whatever you call it like you know and see the upside down exactly the opposite so I don't know why I don't know if his optimism or... He doesn't- he's not really The outcome is optimistic But yeah but he's not really an optimistic guy believe me Right which makes you wonder Yes Which is why I want In fact If your gonna go by his own theory everything he said is BS What do you mean? Well he says everything that people are saying is just the opposite because it's all part of a scheme. Oh so then what, wouldn't that be true for him too? Hey man Q says its true

53:14 I just quickly on cue. If this truly were an informant who flies on Air Force One, then and you know it's connected to the president in the secret signals... QAnon. Yeah, QAnon. But why don't we break just before you go into that? I think one tenth of our listeners even know what you're talking about once you give them a little background because it's not something we ever talk about on the show We have brought it up in the past. Yeah, typically mockingly so there is this person who showed up on I don't force 4chan or 8chan or 16 chan or 64 yeah and under the handle QAnon and started posting cryptic messages that included stuff like follow the white rabbit

54:04 And there's a number of people who are completely convinced they have cracked multiple codes and it's between what Q writes, and what Trump tweets. Look he misspelled this word the same way that it was misspelled there and there is numerology involved. What? Who decode the Bible. And they take you like, first word in the upper left hand corner and then you go down to over one... Yes, you expect Tom Hanks will do the movie version of QAnon exactly Yeah he'd be QAnon Of course I've looked at it and I'm just like, yeah

54:43 This connecting dots and you know, there's a lot of people are so adamant about this And there's tons of archive websites and yeah people really really believe it. But the reason why I'm not believing it is Every little shitheel who was maybe some kind of informant gets the full coal raking from the M5M Look at Guccifer! Guccifer we know- Why do even know Guccifer 2.0s name? You know, these kinds of names. Fuzzy Bear... Bozo Bear! Huggy Bears! All these different bears we know all the codes everything but never a single thing about QAnon ever have you seen it on the M5M? Has it ever shown up this is it's big enough It's really big enough for them to pick up on it so I think it's some kind of some kind of psyop certainly keeping people busy

55:38 It's keeping people busy and happy they voted for Trump. So that's okay, you know fine do that but I'm not buying it. I see real no evidence and now people are gonna say I quit listening! I block you on Twitter? But this is...I just don't see it. I just don't see it Now before we take a break I certainly didn't see it and I owe a big apology to Mark Maron of the WTF podcast. And, I really messed it up. Yeah, I want to second the apology even though I really didn't know anything about the whole thing because it was a surprise to me too but uh...I was partly responsible because I was thinking to myself cause Maron made a big fuss about on Twitter and well let me go back in just say what happened

56:22 One of our producers, Sunday emailed me and I do my prep in the morning. Emailed me and said here's a discrepancy in this bit where Marin republished his original interview from 2011 with Anthony Bourdain And there is piece in the original where he talks about shantyx and how it makes you loopy and makes you want to commit suicide He was a lifetime smoker and whenever he feels like cheating or is cheating on smoking he goes onto shantyx And Dan could not find this in the reposted episode. the entire connection between Anthony Bourdain's death and Shantake is what matters. But as a beautiful aside, the fact that it was missing from Mark Maron's podcast made... And I think the way the conversation went is I questioned this and said well maybe he's just trying to be politically correct because he talks about suicide which would be kind of wimpy could be that you know his advertisers didn't want that or there may be some advertising

57:25 issue there and you know so but I think without a doubt we said well this is this would be holy moly the even they've gotten to the podcast now So it was not great because I didn't check this. It would be a shocker! Now what happened is, and you know Dan is extremely embarrassed he's mortified and he wrote me an email and said oh man... Because he really did look for it He couldn't find it because Marin republished with the different intro in different commercials And that's why the time difference was so off And you know, so it was not malice on anyone's part. What happened though is that some of our fine producers on Twitter just went hey Mark Maron you farm a shill! Yeah, he got grief.

58:16 I don't know, it's hard. There is no context in text but even my harshest critics...I don't answer that way But anyway it doesn't matter I take responsibility and did not check it And uh.. I fucked up and I'm really sorry I apologize to him and his production crew because there are quite a lot of people apparently who put that together AND what hurts me the most is that I am going to take my clip of the day away So, gone. Yeah well you had three clips of the day for that show so it's not like you're suffering. No but I... There is no blood loss! And there isn't and i think we should give him some pharma. You've got pharma. There ya go. He sent me a note saying he'd apologize. Yeah and you did so in the newsletter We don't mind doing that It's not like our butt hurt because we have to apologize. I think was a good thing to do

59:20 And we do correct our mistakes on this show, and I mentioned that in the newsletter. Except there was a mistake in the newsletter! What did you do wrong in the newsletter? There was a typo...I had rewritten one of the things when I was talking about the apology to Mark Maron coming And I left the word out so I had to open the newsletter to read it to you. But there's a word missing and say, oh, she's right. The reason it happened because this happens the only time there is going to be type of we have a lot of people check the newsletter even though they don't always do it. I always do a read through out loud But then at the end, once in a while I'll go back in the newsroom and I'm trying to... Then as I decide that I'm gonna do it last minute tweak. And you send it to three people one of which is me and we're all supposed to find mistakes and we miss them too sometimes Well this mistake didn't go to you because this was one of these before I ship I do a last-minute tweak up now look at his sentence and say

1:00:12 Oh no, just before it dropped you pulled it back? Yeah. Before it dropped and so I made it and then left the word out of it because when I clipped and moved things around is just a word was missing in there. One guy wrote in to say hey, you know, you got screwed this up but anyways yeah we wanted to get that out of the way also just going back too because And this is what I find the saddest, is that I believe there... There is a very real possibility of linkage between shantics which can definitely make you suicidal and Anthony Bourdain's death. And there are more... There are few alternative news outlets picking up on this and asking questions

59:20 And we do correct our mistakes on this show, and I mentioned that in the newsletter. Except there was a mistake in the newsletter! What did you do wrong in the newsletter? There was a typo...I had rewritten one of the things when I was talking about the apology to Mark Maron coming And I left the word out so I had to open the newsletter to read it to you. But there's a word missing and say, oh, she's right. The reason it happened because this happens the only time there is going to be type of we have a lot of people check the newsletter even though they don't always do it. I always do a read through out loud But then at the end, once in a while I'll go back in the newsroom and I'm trying to... Then as I decide that I'm gonna do it last minute tweak. And you send it to three people one of which is me and we're all supposed to find mistakes and we miss them too sometimes Well this mistake didn't go to you because this was one of these before I ship I do a last-minute tweak up now look at his sentence and say

1:00:12 Oh no, just before it dropped you pulled it back? Yeah. Before it dropped and so I made it and then left the word out of it because when I clipped and moved things around is just a word was missing in there. One guy wrote in to say hey, you know, you got screwed this up but anyways yeah we wanted to get that out of the way also just going back too because And this is what I find the saddest, is that I believe there... There is a very real possibility of linkage between shantics which can definitely make you suicidal and Anthony Bourdain's death. And there are more... There are few alternative news outlets picking up on this and asking questions

1:00:58 But then Rose McGowan came out with a statement and she said, well he didn't take doctor's advice. And he was having a rough patch and the rough patch may be the fact that she was making out with another guy which she then rebuffed as Anthony I have an open relationship. Rose McGowan? No Asia, his girlfriend Oh, yeah. Who was... I said it out of... So Asia Argento is friends with McGowan and McGowan wrote a communique at the behest of Asia and in that she said you know he didn't listen to his this is then from his girlfriend through Rose McGowan that he did not take as doctor's advice in quote depression battle

1:01:53 But, you know if you're in France and your girlfriend's hanging out and putting pictures on Instagram of making out with some other young dude. Well maybe the Instagram photos and the whole social media thing had something to do with it then? It could! And then just throwing... This is stupid, this is stupid! These are adults that put in pictures themselves kissing people?! Yeah I mean this is like what kids doing high school maybe. Uh yeah Welcome to the universe. Well, I want to add that since you brought this up before we go and do our next thing, next block...I might as well bring this clip in because i noticed that the mainstream media wasn't just one network-i think i have the NBC version they all because of this situation and i think it you know and i would imagine that uh Maren's influence had something to do with it too

1:02:49 which is the idea that Shantex might be a culprit, is to create a smoke screen. No! No, Shantex not to call and believe me everybody played this story it's all sorts of possibilities here and this is the medicine in depression puff piece that I have a clip up The warning tonight, some of the medications Americans most commonly take could have serious side effects. Depression even suicidal symptoms You are in a black hole you can't get out you can't move you can't call for help Mary Curran Hackett has battled depression and survived two suicide attempts while her reasons were many she's convinced her medication may have contributed I felt lonely

1:03:34 and suicide seemed like the best option for me at the time. Now, new research published in the Journal of the American Medical Association finds 38% of adults use a medication that can have depression as a side effect 200 medications not just antidepressants beta blockers and opioids already linked to depression but also gabapentin prednisone prescription dose ibuprofen and over-the-counter acid reflux medications the more medication you're on the greater likelihood of having a side effect from the medication including depression psychiatrist Joshua Weiner are we simply in over medicated society, and we don't know how these meds interact I think so.

1:04:15 is in this country we're looking for the quick fix. We turn to medicine before we turn to lifestyle." Wow, whoever said that has some clue! Well that's true but this whole storyline... I never mentioned Bourdain didn't have anything to do with anything going on. It was out of the blue story and I think it was set up as a smoke screen just so, oh well depression though you can't bring that topic because this is everything you're taking ibuprofen in fact in fact I use ibuprofen occasionally and my daughter comes up she says ibuprofen causes depression! And then I said there's no none that not that I know but

1:04:52 I mean, why we listen to that clip in it and that clip they mentioned ibuprofen but they say prescription strength. Well this is interesting the this research paper i'm looking at the copy of it from the JAMA network which i think is one of those official places where you publish research yeah and uh... this was published on june twelfth twenty eighteen so the timing is beautiful If you're talking about creating a smoke screen, it's like hey we got that emergency backup paper ready? I look for it boss. You know as an editor when I was editing InfoWorld I would have under my desk a stack

1:05:38 of pre-written material because our page count would vary too much for a normal magazine. It would just go up and down, but that's why I needed to all of the sudden bring out stacks of stuff here filled with this really so you always have all editors I believe most of them have at the ready stuff like that what is yeah What is so interesting though that in all the reporting because I put a number of them in the show notes related to this topic, none of them mentioned smoking cessation drugs as you know we go to birth control your hormonal birth control medication what else do they have some painkillers here we go

1:06:24 Hormonal birth control, blood pressure heart medication painkillers and was it acid reflux? They got everything in there But let's not mention the smoking cessation drug that has proven to drive people Wacky. It's almost as though they got wind of some people bitching about Shantex in particular And the Bourdain thing in particular they got wind if it may be getting some traction We've been talking about it for, I don't know five to six years. But we're getting no traction but maybe it's going to start getting traction let's throw the smoke screen up and then you know that'll kill it and did

1:07:00 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. The C stands for Shantix Communicae Divorac! In the morning to you Mr Adam Carell so in the morning all ships a sea. The boots on the ground, the feet in the air, the subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Yes, in the morning to the troll room noagendastream.com Thanks trolls good to see ya Miss you four days, and I'd like to thank the artists for episode 1041 a title that was Harry Mary and we had the Weaponized shantyx ammunitions box as the artwork. We chose that Mike Riley did that and we appreciate what he did It was the starting starter month box shantics tablets it just fit it fit well art was tough when I recall

1:07:50 Yes, we had to dig. We did dig but it's appreciated and all the work that our artists do who? Do with you know the topics sometimes don't lend themselves true. That's true art It still it's outrageously cool that we get new art for every single show no agenda art generator calm You can look at all of them That's all under our open source concept And you can also go to know agenda shop comm gets some your favorite on mugs and t-shirts good stuff Welcome to the party All right, well so we start off with good news and bad news. So our donor Sir Animus of Dogpatch in Lower Selbovia came in with six it says 650 but actually it should be 1300. What? Is that the bad news? Hopefully he won't do this again but he sent an envelope with two half Krugerrand's

1:08:50 Huh, gold coins? Yes. And so only one arrived now and it arrived loose in the envelope he had him in his little containers but he taped down but he didn't do a very good job of taping her down because one of the crew because they get beat up and these machines... So was it pneumasticist packaging? No that's the problem And so it was like just loose coins. So he's got these, which I don't know where he's getting these but...so he had the two coins and they got both of them out of their little plastic container and one of them got out of a, it was beating flying around this is a very heavy coin and it just pushed a hole in the envelope and snuck its way out now somebody in the postal service is happy. Yes! The other coin was just roaming around in the envelope so when I opened the envelope it fell right out

1:09:42 So I want to make that... And this is a, so that's half an ounce one Kruger end? A half Kruger. They're both half ounces, half Krugers. Right. So the Kruger is a whole ounce. Yes and which is $1300 give or take like we're gonna go to the gold market and sell it Yeah, we'd be keeping it. But so that's kind of a very disappointing that happened but this sort of thing... Well but the thought and gesture is appreciated And I thought was a good idea and i've never had a Kruger in my hand Of course they still haven't have only had half Krugers yeah anyway want to thank him for trying a little more care I think would have made a difference Does he have a note?

1:10:27 Yes, he always has a note. NJNK I might as well say at the top thank you to and all the producers that keeps this show packed with information and value to its listeners for non-donors if this network is good enough to listen to six hours a week it's worth six minutes of your time to donate something With this show's help, watching M5M is rare and when I do, I see it. I see embedded bias in the press during a recent, as we pointed out in this report on North Korea during a recent... And nobody read the document during the recent broadcast of a President T conference

1:11:07 I saw different channels displayed next to each other on two TVs. In one, Mr T and his red tie popped right out. On the other he was washed out thinking it might be different television tuning. I reversed the channels of the TV with a washed-out Mr Trump made him vibrant and the vibrant TV made him look washed out." I noted the same thing for more televisions tuned to the 2 networks. Let's just speculate which network has filters? The observation has drawn me to wonder about network camera filters. You two have more observations, so I ask do you notice network camera filter bias? Network camera filter bias!

1:11:50 I think that would be, I don't think they'd be done as filled. I think that would be done at the engineering level when you do the color balancing for the feed, the whole network feed? It's hard for me to imagine a professional in the field doing that to the image, it is such a... particularly shading and this kind of stuff. These guys are you know that's their professional integrity I mean if they're willing to give that up I don't think they would. The guys who do that are not political usually anyway pictures powerful and who believes the words of a pasty faced washed out speaker well there was a discussion. Well photography yes the bias is there we know 100% just look at

1:12:31 Angela Merkel angry versus Angela Merkel happy photo of her leaning over the desk at Trump at the g7 that by course that bias is there so and there was a Discussion, I don't know if it was on frontline or if it was actually on CBS itself discussing using close-ups bad close ups on 60 minutes It's possible that something is amiss but We don't have any evidence of it. For Muhammad Ali, try global entry. My wife renewed her passport last year and didn't renew global entry for the five entries since were quad S. Worse... Okay he's just not... That means he had to go into the little bad boy room

1:13:20 So he's saying for all you Muslim listeners, is what he's really saying. Attention attention Muslims! Welcome to America Muslims! Okay my wife renewed her passport and she didn't renew global entry four of the five entries were quoted as worse last month she made a joking comment to an Emirates stewardess who are required to report suspicious issues. Oh, geez! That was after a quad S search in Dubai before boarding and that despite being a citizen

1:13:56 She still gets nervous going through immigration. Yes, she has a status on the airline and was front of the bus when she collected her bags an immigration officer from across the baggage claim area made up beeline for her and she spent the next 45 minutes going through her bags. Yeah, this is all believable. Yeah well I just wanted to say that when Tina and I came back from Mexico we came through Houston and you know but I have the global entry and i've already seen that it's really not a lot of benefit And so said no just go through with you I don't need to be like ahead of you and stand there wait for you To come through just to wait together for the bag That's rude um and The machines now It's just all kiosks everywhere

1:14:45 The machines are more modern than the global entry machines. They work better, they're faster, seriously they're much better than these older models and then so there's a little bit of a line but there is just a guy going up paper okay good good good you go through and you done it is almost no difference except for the $450 I paid for it And I guess if your name is Muhammad, you want to have it because hey! Welcome to America mushrooms. Sorry about that and I'm embarrassed for sure Next advice... I keep pics of jewelry with their receipts on the mushroom cloud for such events so you can show proof rather than argue over ownership when you return with jewelry from the wedding season

1:15:31 I've paid taxes twice on some items just to get through. He's getting targeted, man! He's irked. I can imagine. Producers and now they... that's why he is so anonymous because of it. Now what is the mushroom cloud besides the obvious? No, the cloud. He used to talk about the cloud. Just joking around okay. He doesn't need to be known as a no agenda supporter Anyway, okay. You can, uh, could you have a two times quad S? Okay, here we go. Then he's wrapping that were rapping producers please create a quote republics are not democracies jingle every time I hear our government referred to as a democracy in clips, I get upset and it seems to be getting worse

1:16:26 So that's an issue in itself and there is probably reason for that. So lead the change please, and correct it every time! We correct it a lot. But he's right you can't correct all the time because it would be tedious. These guys keep saying it. Enclose some original bitcoins 80s style those are two coins we're talking about A volatile value originated from an illegal mine in a boycotted country. But it works everywhere when the grid is down." Sadly, we saw in this particular case that the Bitcoin might have reached its destination. So there's something to be said for the old sneaker network.

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1:18:00 Yeah, you can read this or not but I know my PayPal shows Seattle. Trust me i'm not in Seattle okay that's what I figured Sir Michael of third world Southeast Asia Chloe let me go to you first What is the latest tonight in Iowa? Well in Ottawa The situation is less tense than before You might die Jobs jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs You've got karma. Zachary Montgomery in Kannapolis, North Carolina 300. A douchebag call out for John Kuhneman. Douchebag! And I guess it's either Tyne or Tina probably Tyne Coleman. Oh also a douche bag? Douchebag!

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1:24:05 Shut up, Steve. Oh okay wait before we go on I do this because i'm looking at Montgomery's note that he also sent on besides the donation yeah and there is a moment here I have to read oh Adam mentioned one time the buddy goes on he loves his show and he's got some couple of notes here but he says Adam mentioned one time they uh being able to turn your car off Yes, I put this note on the show notes interesting you bring it up. Yeah They already can I repossess cars for money right now And I've had cars that are turned off by the finance companies

1:24:45 It must be in their contracts. We also get cars by GPS sometimes, again depends on their contract with their financier. Also we as a company drive around vehicles with plate scanners on them searching for repos. Every tag we scan is added to the database with a timestamp photo and eight digit grid coordinates your make and model and owner information if it's a repo. I like it for work, but i think its terrifying at the same time. I love that they can just turn if off remotely beautiful yeah well you're not in your car...its not in your Lexus because thats old its not in the 1990? No, 92 93 so 25 years old is now considered a classic in California My Nokia would look nice in your car

1:25:45 My e71 yes, but that old car still has a car phone With the cord attached to the body of the vehicle yeah nice And I'm gonna land tenant used to be on the roof. That probably was the safest Mobile phone there was you didn't have it sticking up a radio Receiver up against your head 10 against your head Yeah Which and I'm a little worried about this because I've been looking at hearing aids cuz it's time oh And I've learned a lot. Thank you, producers for sending in all different notes nine No ten out of ten producers have recommended what store for me to go purchase a hearing aid Can I guess yes? Well wouldn't be Amazon because they're specifically saying go-to purchase yep now Deconstructing my words but yes that is correct like I could have left it more open ended so the and it wouldn't be a grocery store

1:26:44 So it has to be one of the chains, and there's not that many left. It has to be one of the drugstore chains and I would guess Walgreens. Not even close! Costco? Well that's funny, the irony of that is that's what you told me to go check out the prices Well, after the show we were talking about it. Yeah and I've already checked out the prices but everyone has said and we have a lot of... It's listening instrument it's not hearing aid it's a listening instrument

1:27:20 So we have a lot of listening instrument users in the no agenda community and without fail, Costco, Costco, Costco. They say look you may think that these new ones that cost five six seven thousand dollars are invisible. It's just the tech can't do it yet because you know you have DSP digital signal processing there is all kinds of stuff going on It's very, very difficult to miniaturize that inside your ear and have it deliver the same results as on the back of the year. Which... you know a couple- I've gotten some nice notes like dude forget about it would you rather look cool? And not have visible hearing aids or would you be able to hear people? That makes sense and by the way they got some nice shiny black models and stuff

1:28:10 But you can hook them up to Bluetooth, and I'm a little concerned about the Bluetooth really on both sides of my head Nuking away. Yeah, I'd avoid it anyway we're going to Costco Saturday Oh, oh, what's your Costco member? We became Tina has been trying to get me to become a member of Costco since I've known her well Did she know the backstory the back story of Costco? Yeah, you mean when when I went there and couldn't become a member No, when you went there and they wouldn't take your money. Yeah Exactly They wouldn't let me become a member because they didn't have an American Express yet to do no they weren't it wasn't that? I was gonna use my membership. I was there yeah well tell me how it went cuz I forgot It was for a sound bar or TV or what was it? I think it was for a TV. Yeah

1:28:59 And you went in there and either that or a camera, one of the two. One of three because I could have been the camera but you wanted to pay for it with a credit card and they wouldn't take it because this is when they were American Express only but now their course has credit card only changed And you didn't have cash. They would've taken the check, by the way. Yeah I did know that. So then you got all bent out of shape and said, I'll never go to Costco again! I hate Costco if you even mention Costco! I'll go ballistic don't talk about- You went on and on... It is- And by the way? The resemblance to how i said it is just uncanny. Perfect. Just unbelievably good. No, I'm very good at mimicking people

1:29:38 So that was that and so you had bitch, and I tried to calm me down saying hey You know it's not that way. It's just the way it is they get this rules and Now boom things have changed yes well now I can't hear like Costco's actually a good operation now like you know now I'm having trouble hearing so Yeah, so now of course my tune has changed the most expensive ones they have is $1500 Well, which model are they recommending for you? Well I'm Saturday. Uh, I will do my test and we'll see what they recommend but it comes... It's all kind of the same stuff just comes down to how many DSPs and like oh you and what I hear is what I don't want You can use your smartphone with an app to control it No! I DO NOT want that I mean What's next? You might as well put those things on my glasses Remember those? We had the hearing aid incorporated into the glasses

1:30:33 Oh yeah, there's that and then they can for an extra ten bucks they can put a piece of tape around the bridge of your glasses so you look like a complete idiot. And make them that whoever came up with that sickly earwax color for medical devices Especially for hearing aids. It just looks like big gobs of earwax Don't you agree? I mean that always this always about it That's good well my grandmother was deaf at a very early age my father. I mean, this is hereditary to tell him yeah What what what what yeah anyway oh? Colorado is on fire. I think they need a shake

1:31:16 You got the stick? Actually, there's a whole bunch of fires everywhere. You want to do one long shake or you want me to do it all at once? Colorado is pretty bad now I think that needs three shakes and look it'll be good for everyone... Look! It's gonna rain in Austin in a couple days That's always what happens when we use the rain stick but we're taking it on We really want to help Colorado Ready here we go 1 2 3 Is that your rainstick or was out of maraca I'm shaking it make the little balls all fall out. Oh, you shouldn't be shit You gotta turn it upside down no wonder only right upside down and then I shake the little balls at the end should not Be shaking it's just like I believe that's true. Let gravity do its work And you should know I've taken it all Sherry Osborne listens to the show and she will send me an email I'm no longer in face bag so she'll have to send me any email She will she's the one who built them as she knows oh? I want to mention the United Face you should go back to Facebook. I'm not going to

1:32:19 Well, for one thing everyone thinks that you will. Now they're just pestering my wife! So why do I have to go back to save her? Mimi should get- No they're pestering me like oh you should talk about this the show should talk about this you should talk about that You know, and I don't know. They were really jacked up about this Einstein story which is more I think about it what's the point? Who cares? Oh because he was a racist and xenophobe This was a promotion to sell his book! Yeah Hello And no one saw that on the face bag now do you understand why i'm not there come over to NoAgendaSocial.com It's just a browser click away if its so important There are smart people there too

1:33:04 Yeah, yeah go there and then pester Adam there. Now these networks that have DNA of their own I think it goes It's the same for the subgroups like you know You're going to a no agenda group on face back its toxic this poisonous people in there And I got no time for it. I really don't I really don't I was reading through the mobile might as well stick with face bag just for a second they answered in a 200 and I want to say 270 page response to Congress, you know all the follow-up questions. Yes sir will my team will get to you and we'll tell you all about whatever it will answer your questions It's quite a dog face Facebook's yeah testimony yes until you had the testimony but then you have the The responses to the written questions for I'm sorry 454 pages

1:34:05 Is that big enough for you? I got some stuff though. Okay! Let me see how i can best categorize this... let's start with device information Facebook tracks what device you're using to access the network, To do this it logs hardware manufacturer of your smartphone connected television tablet computer or other internet connected devices tracks operating system software versions a web browser if you're using a smartphone will keep a record of the mobile carrier while internet Service providers will be storing for users using a Wi-Fi or Ethernet connection to access Facebook. In some cases it will monitor devices that are using the same network as you, I'm not quite sure what monitor means... Facebook services inherently operate on a cross device basis." Okay so they're trying to make it sound good

1:34:50 to ensure that the person's feed is correct. Facebook watches the movements of your computer mouse on screen where you're interacting with a social network I've always said this, as you're scrolling and just pause for a moment on something they know this and if you're pausing or not even clicking they know that and here it is Of course they say this type information can help distinguish humans from bots Tracking the app you use to interact with Facebook helps the company learn the types of devices you favor, keeps note of the file names in your system. Data is synced with your profile and will influence the types of advertisements you see so they're looking at your files that you had... Of course they analyze every photo do all kinds of recognition on it not just the XLF data or the XIF data whatever it is. Is it XLIF? No yeah

1:35:44 That stuff. XIM, whatever it is They know if your browser window's in the foreground or the background If you close it If you have a tab We collect information about how user products Let me see Time frequency here of course Is normal stuff Just how you use device connections Connections from your smartphone Tablet Laptop Or smart TV This is an interesting one Monitors the signal strength Of your mobile data connection Bluetooth signals and information about nearby Wi-Fi hotspots and cell towers. You can actually track someone pretty accurately with, if you have the exact battery level if you have that data and obviously FaceBag's app does all this. Devices that are nearby which means... And this explains someone comes onto my network then we're going to get friend recommendations

1:36:36 But then there's, let me see I have about 20. There's all kinds of stuff as well as tracking purchases made from third-party websites made online Facebook keeps an eye on your buying habits we receive information about a person's online offline actions and purchases from third party data providers who have the rights to provide us with that person's information which is pretty much everybody so they get all kinds of third party info they track it if you've bought something on a third party site they track that purchase Um, photo shares messages sent so they... What gives them the right to track a purchase I made someplace else? Well it's the right that you gave to the person who you purchased the product from. They have the right with little terms of service and the minute you say okay then they sell that to Facebag or if they exchange it I'm not quite sure what the mechanism of uh what the barter is there

1:37:39 Facebook tracks your general usage, of course to improve advertising and design features. Date and time of your visit, the features you use, what posts videos other content it does the same thing for your friends and friends are friends if can imagine that three layers not just plus one but plus two that's quite a lot and I think that's going a bit far Now, they are completely adamant. We do not activate monitor or capture microphone or camera data without the user's knowledge and permission." And later on in the document Facebook does not engage in these practices or capture data from a microphone or camera without consent. Hello? Can anyone read Legalese?

1:38:31 So in summary, device information mouse movements app and file names how you're running the browser signals nearby Wi-Fi access points beacons cell towers signal strength Bluetooth signals other devices on the network available storage space what plugins your connection speed contact information address book of course call log SMS log history for Android users who have these settings synced they might not know that Information about how users use I like this this verbiage We also store and track and analyze information about how users use features Like our camera, and I just thought that was pretty brazen unless is there a Facebook camera that I don't know of You're asking me. Yeah well I don't use Facebook And I don't follow them that closely to know this but not did I know up? I just thought it was fun That they said our camera

1:39:29 It's last time I checked it was worth looking into why are they saying our camera? I don't know the location of a photo or data file was created GPS location camera photos information found through device settings purchase made from third-party data providers The thing that you rarely think about is the photos because they're not just analyzing photos on location data and aperture settings. They're analyzing what's in the photo, hey I see a lot of dog pics guess what kind of ads you're gonna get? You don't really think about it but all these websites where you're uploading pictures they can know where it is just by analyzing the background sometimes. That technology... I always thought it was incredibly foolish for people to

1:40:22 put personal photos on the internet, uh, in Flickr or any place because if I'm hiring and I'm doing due diligence, let's say it said a high level. I'm going to just first thing I might do is look at those photos and found out if you're like a goofball, right? See a lot of drunks, you know they, Hey, I'm drunk. Look. And they post these photos of themselves being drunk or goofing around or the stupid stuff. Yeah, I would it's just negative it's not a good positive thing for you to do no what would you do? It uh they don't care they don't care No they don't care that's pretty much yeah we have quite an interesting situation here in the common law condo as one of The Keeper's daughters is staying with us for the summer she has her final year of school coming up

1:41:17 And, you know I had the Amazon talking tube and everyone used that for the shopping list and turn the lights on and off. Well, I got rid of it until I brought in Mycroft which is the open source one which is slow and buggy... It works! But it doesn't work the same so now they're all pissed off at me like this a piece of shit. Yeah well yeah. You know I got to control the Roku yesterday. I'm quite pleased with myself So you can just say, show the unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt on Netflix and it switches and starts playing it. Yeah that's actually a time saver! Oh yeah I bet it saves us unbelievable amounts of time...I mean hours! I'm telling you in 10 years there'll be a lot of this and I'm riding the wave baby. I just don't want to ride the wave with the big corporations at Silicon Valley. I love the technology and by the way

1:42:15 Every single skill as they call it, the so-called AI. It's just regular expression just going every possibility of the words you use is stored and for ready access and you know The actual translation from speech to text that works pretty reliably And then I just run through this whole database of whoa what the hell did he mean? There's no AI in there No artificial nothing! He's grepping it out Yeah Anyway...I was a little perturbed On Sunday, as I was watching the Chonies which i thought was a fantastic show. Oh yeah! You know that's...I didn't get any clips and there is no reason you can get a good clip of the De Niro thing Yeah, I got a good clip of the De Niro thing Do you go it where it wasn't uncensored? In Australia the feed was not censored but let me tell you my experience

1:43:10 Okay, so I'm excited. I got Tony fever and I thought it was great You know there was all kinds of those some funny stuff. I like the hosts I'll tell you I was stunned by Josh Groban very see that guy can deliver some lines Now he's not only a good comic, but he's a good singer. Mm-hmm Oh very he's not like the another girl is a real you know Broadway singer She's a star. I see superstar and she wrote all I'm pretty sure she wrote all the comedy songs that they did probably because she did The play waitress which was a good play And she's just very talented. But I was stunned by him, I thought they were very good hosts. Think they covered well for De Niro. De Niro is obviously put on there for that exact purpose because he has done it before. Hold on let us not go there first. Okay, I am going to let you go because...I just want to say why I watched the Tonys because they really predicted all of this one was disappointing but usually

1:44:04 Play the best bits from the various musicals usually the best bits, and I didn't think they did that dish I thought it was pretty little death. I thought that the acts were pretty well III have not seen any of these plays or musicals I just love me some people doing something live on stage And I thought the direction was interesting They used a lot of jibs from up close top behind which you normally won't see of course if not if you're in a theater they had to keep that in mind I like the pieces they chose really and then it's so we're on like a five or ten minute delay. You know, it was like we take her we didn't have to sit there immediately oh it's seven o'clock come on show me fever now we did we chill you know I'm recording it so we're on delay

1:44:48 And then we're watching and then all of a sudden you know cuz Bruce Springsteen's gonna show up like this will be cool He's gonna play, and then my cable box freeze it by my AT&T What's their product? Triverse no universe universe the uverse yes it which is on on the on the fiber. It freezes oh And I can't do anything. I have to reboot the box, destroying the recording? I could not see what happened. I missed all of Bruce Springsteen and then you know Tina of course she's like let me check the tweeters She says oh something happened So when they nuked it they nuked the box! and so that your copy is destroyed now The next day a full copy was restored on the DVR

1:45:40 They got a lot of capabilities that I'm not aware of in this U-verse device. So, uh...I think within five minutes I found out that this had not been censored on the feed in Australia Here it is if you missed it. And what blew me away the most was the crowd's reaction

1:46:39 Yes, yeah I was actually surprised by the crowds reaction. It was deplorable! I saw a few people some women actually gasping putting their hand to their mouth and shocked which i think is appropriate behavior Yeah probably But what made De Niro look dumb Is that he was putting his arms up like he had beaten him or something That just made him look stupid Yeah, it was a pose from Raging Bull. Right! So it was just dumb and to me I don't care what he says we know his stance on the president It ruined the Tonys!! I think what it did...it kind of maybe it did ruin that the Tony's but I was so stunned by this standing ovation He got for saying just this profanity

1:47:37 that I'm thinking, as I always do when I see this. Here is a kind of culture that really relies on government support in pretty much every country to really thrive. They can do it on their own and be starving artists and nobody cares but they need government support and they need the support of the public at large. And so you do this Yeah, in light of that is amazing to me. What how stupid are these people? Well De Niro's rich He doesn't care he doesn't care about the industry I truly think he cares about trying to well You know what? I'll do this out of order So I think this I don't know the timeline of this if it was before after the Chonies It was the Jimmy and Rosemary Breslin American writer Awards in New York City

1:48:33 And it's a lot of young people who were honored during this. The audio is not fantastic because it's kind of caught on an iPhone wild mic, but just listen to him... Just listen to his thinking and he also has a nice little Trump rotation rant in here. What does the truth even mean today? I mean if you're Donald Trump it doesn't mean anything If you're a cowardly Republican enablers in Congress, you don't let the truth stand in the way of pathetically clinging to power. Our country is led by a president who believes he can make up his own truth and we have a word for that... Bullshit!

1:49:28 This is where the you young writers have it all over me. You have the vocabulary to articulate precisely and eloquently For example, you might say as many professionals that Trump manifests a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of discharging duties of the President of the United States. That he's afflicted with a narcissistic personality disorder, that he is a congenital liar, mean-spirited soulless immoral amoral abusive con artist son of a bitch to my father. Shut down Trump! Why am I saying this? Because i'm not political but I AM NOW and you guys are the future. Now listen here we go... We're in a dangerous situation in this country

1:50:23 You know with Hitler, with other despots People didn't take him seriously. They laughed at them and then what happened turn around that was too late We can't let that happen in this country you guys There you go, we got everything in there including Hitler the fact that he says I'm not political He was a huge massive butthurt supporter of Hillary Yeah, no, I'm not political at all donated a lot of money to her campaign worked on her behalf Did that one even that one TV commercial? And, but he says he's not political. Really? Well it seems to be a meme now in Hollywood and the theater world we can just say whatever we want now. De Niro has lowered the bar successfully and here is actress Norma Dumanzweni she plays Hermione I believe in the Harry in the 18-hour Harry Potter play which also Hermoine see there you go don't even know its Hermione

1:51:26 In the 18 hour Harry Potter play. That's what she had to say. It's not 18 but it is a long play, almost 6 I think? 2 and half hours each play. Do they do those two plays in one day? One after another? Yeah, back to back. Well then I give her some grace no wonder she's pissed one thing that surprising about Harry Potter is that even though it doesn't this is variety this is right and also we got to listen to him one thing that surprised me about Harry Potter is that even though it doesn't it's not as overtly political like something like Angels in America I sort of feel like there are moments in it there are things that happen with he who may not who must not be named

1:52:07 He who must not be named have real resonance today in particularly in America. Are you aware of that? Do you feel that I really do believe that That's why this is resonating a lot at the moment London when it started beatful and there was a moment Went okay, this is the story telling but now two to three years later since we've opened in London, to be here. You go actually this story is getting deeper and deeper and deeper and we as all us human beings are fighting to be connected but especially to be seen if you're not seen or not heard that's where dangerous stuff happens that's where people under the radar do very cruel things and that's what this play is about

1:52:44 And it's about bringing things into the light, letting your light shine. This is what JK has always been about let the darkness out into the light and that's why I'm very proud to be here telling this story right now because as you're intimated those things are very important Should the president come see Harry Potter and the Cursed Child? No Thank You Anybody else yes Yeah, this is a classic. I saw this too but i didn't clip it but i'm glad you did. But I know you always irked about sanctimonious Brits! Yeah, I was gonna say just regarding the Tony Awards... It was all British people who were winning! But yeah, sanctimony- Get out!!

1:53:28 Show me your papers. On Broadway. Patti LuPone... The sanctimonious Brits commenting on our presidency or anybody's. You can't say that stuff in your country, young lady! I don't think you can talk that way about politicians anymore. Yeah, no again when they call it, when they de-block them or whatever thing they do... De-notice? No. Not delist, denotise. But not... Denotise! That's it. They're working on regulations in Gitmo Nation East if you cannot disparage politicians on social media Yeah, so yeah. Well it's alright. Or you can come over here and just blast our people. That's okay she can come over... I'm sure the Harry Potter show was great. Patti LuPone?

1:54:15 Oh, Patti LuPone. She has been a Trump hater forever! Tell me about she's uh she's a Choni winner, Patti Lupone what did it what does she play? She's an old...she's a Broadway hack. She's been on..she's been there....she's old.....she's been doing plays for since the 30s I don't know how old she is but she's very famous. Since the thirties! She's one of the kind of Grand old ladies of Broadway. Oh, okay? So she so she's almost like royalty of Broadway Yes royalties the word I was looking for Royalty of Broadway okay well that explains the clip why should president trump come see your show Well, I hope he doesn't because I won't perform if you guys Really really tell me what because I hate the motherfucker house that

1:55:04 Royalty, I tell you. Royalty! Yeah that's Patti LuPone hello She really says that in a very harsh...that is one of the best MFs i've heard yeah she really dislikes him for reasons that have never been explained I wish people would explain their reason for this That is visceral hate Let me just play that one bit again Why won't it play? Because I hate the motherfucker. How's that? Damn, she really says that in a harsh way And she also says it to the point where she hates the guy She's now talking to you know it sounds like yeah exactly exactly just Broadcasting this deep hate which makes you wonder You know as an artist and a performer name to be

1:55:50 to be living in this world of that kind of unbelievable hate. How does that improve your acting skills? No, well that's part of the process you can use it all speak speaking up new show alert Barry on HBO Barry yeah it's a story about why not B-A-R-R-Y Barry okay the guy's name is Barry It's a series and we just finished it last night, and it's a good actor. I forget his name you'll recognize him But the premise is he's a hitman from Pennsylvania And somehow he winds up doing a big hit in Los Angeles Then then he decides to become an actor while he's kind of still killing people It's pretty funny Chuck Berris

1:56:40 Chuck Beres who was a $64,000 question the gong show he was the CIA guy wasn't he well that's what he says okay he was a CIA man he was a hitman yeah fantastic I love that there's a movie about it it was pretty funny So, okay let's move on to some... I got a little side bit here. And this is one of these things that i'm watching this very good special on nature and moths. And apparently you know moths are

1:57:16 Bats love eating moths. Yeah, we don't have a lot of moths in Austin. I bet you don't but a lot of moths bred themselves or kind of evolved into mimicking the bat sound to scramble the bats radar Oh really? That's some evolution for you right there But the thing that came up in this in this special was a piece of information that I've always I think I've been misled You know there's things these things you get told all your life, and then you find out it's bullcrap Oh like if like if you have an oak closet the moths won't go in cedar cedar That's what it was cedar. Yeah but what I heard was that moths and Butterflies are two different species

1:58:10 No! Butterflies are moths. NOOOOO! A tiny brown moth that fled the night some 50 million years ago. Driven, perhaps by the rise of bats relentlessly hunting the dark skies in a world full of light moths burst into color

1:58:51 We call these daytime flyers butterflies, but they are really some 20 thousand species of colorful moths that have spread across every continent except Antarctica. Oh life-saving tips on the NOA Agenda Show! Just one of those little galling factoids... But anyway there's a thing because I think a lot of people been misled and there it is take that clip and you can use it as a bar bet Keep it on your phone. Does that really work for you? Oh, yeah I make tons of money doing this stuff Hey, I would like if possible hold a second Yes, I'd like to have a little update on your bionic eye

1:59:51 How's it going with the new lens? Well, the focus is improving. So it hasn't been a full week yet still a little blurry in my taste but I'll tell you this. Oh, let me guess... You have x-ray vision now! There's actually some funny humor to that Well are you gonna let us in on the joke or not? No it is too insulting just to someone that would not appreciate it Anyway uh The problem with these, once you get your cataract fixed and you get a new lens It is so bright

2:00:28 You have to wear sunglasses outside, you really do. I mean you can't not wear them. But that's because now your other eye is still all murky and gunky and that one now needs to be replaced? It's not murky or gunky it just... These lenses, they over time they get...they start cutting out the light to the point where when you're older you only see get 75% of the light in. Oh no! And so when you put this new lens even with the other eye being a little pretty not as bright Everything is extremely bright and then I go into the, now in my own house. And Mimi says she says we've always felt that this house is too bright because they have all lights you know? You got lights lighting up the dining room. Yeah well you were a mole man! So I got the dining room light for example and it's like holy crap I didn't know that was this bright in chandelier so I'm thinking of taking a couple bulbs out of it

2:01:29 It's just everything is just oh, I've been living in the dark. We have this Technology called a dimmer of light dimmer you might want to try one of those LCDs work with like them Oh no No if you have LEDs in your shanghai jelly in the chandelier yeah You get fancy balls go off the grid man put some candles in that bad boy Go old school. I'm not doing that burning the house down if it was silly Since we're talking about this, like this brings me to this...I got these two bulbs here and want to give some people some LED bulb buying tips now before you even go there We know that there is an incredible cartel of lightbulb manufacturers That started years ago And they all got together as Osram and Philips and GE and they said hey You know what?

2:02:21 We're going to say a thousand hours on the bulbs and they'll go 1000 hours, maybe 1001. And they'll pop in that device new one and no one's gonna let anyone in on the big secret that there is a light bulb that has been burning for over 100 years in a firehouse in San Francisco. No, it's either Pleasanton or California. I knew I should have said California. It's in East Bay for more than 100 years. The filament light bulb has been burning because there's no reason this is planned obsolescence. Go! Well, that's not the case with these LEDs. These LED bulbs and by the way there are those fluorescent crap fluorescent bulbs Those things...that was the big scam I mean i had to get rid of almost all of them They didn't last as long as they're supposed too They burn out They get dull They start losing their light

2:03:09 They're just terrible. It was this unbelievable scam that we've... And I would blame the Democrats for this because, oh, energy! Can't use old bulbs. Yeah and they gave us those CFL bulbs that threw off radioactive energy and- Oh and they buzzed and they sputter. Oh, they're the worst but the LED bulb seemed to be okay. Here's how I got my bulb tips a couple of things This is particularly true if you have a cataract surgery. You wanna have tungsten or sometimes called soft or tungsten, you want the Kelvin to be below 3000.

2:03:54 Most of the good ones that I use are 2700 Kelvin and they're perfect. They got the right color, they got a real believable glow You go to what's called daylight and their Kelvin gets up to like 5000, anyone who takes those photography knows what this is about They're so blue and creepy that yeah, they're okay during the day because they do apparently reflect daylight but at night they are just horrible. Do not buy those bulbs ever! And I learned by the way, NAB which is kind of this is kind of an interesting little factoid for the broadcasters out there that typically because everyone's moving to LED stage lighting now because it has all these advantages mainly. You can control the color radiance and everything you can do all kinds of stuff and it's not hot yep that's the best part so it keeps them studio cool but

2:04:52 It turns out, I talked to a guy that sells this stuff. He says the TV guys all buy the daylight 5000 Kelvin bulbs for their shows so when you're looking at TVs looking at 5000 Kelvin which changes the color balance dramatically and all the movie guys use the tungsten Kelvin 27-3035. Right well that's what they need for film Yeah, yeah. Just a tip now the other that's not just a tip John another fantastic no agenda tips what that is yes Now the other thing is I recommend people you want to get you want to get at least 100 lumens per watt minimum

2:05:40 If you can get more than that, it's good. They can do up to I think 300 lumens per watt with the experimental LEDs. You're not gonna find them on the market. You're gonna find some 100 lumens. I like the Tiwin T-I-W-I-N which you can get from Amazon and then for more powerful bulbs, I like the XM Prim which by the way have more than a hundred lumens per watt And you don't want to buy the 90 lumens, 80 lumens per watt. It's just a waste of money so that's the other key you want to make sure look for if you don't have at least 100 per lumen. Don't buy...yeah, at least 100 lumens per watt. Do not buy the bulb. So here is a question what I wanna get from my grow operation?

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2:15:56 I think it's a money loser for most people. Probably now we were talking about the media, you know jumping all over Trump and making fuss about one thing or another there was a clip from the G7 from the reports that came out on...I moved this to this show This was on ABC And when i heard this I don't..you know I think if it was anybody else It was Obama or anyone else They would have called this an actual, this was I believe interpret what you're going to hear as a threat to his life. Relations are also strained with French President Emmanuel Macron who Trump recently hosted at the White House now Macron suggests he may be ready to give up on Trump tweeting The American president may not mind being isolated but neither do we mind signing a six country agreement if need be later adding no leader is eternal

2:16:50 Is that a death threat? No. He's saying, yeah you can only go eight years bro. That's what he's saying Well I can see the media and under any other circumstances interpreting it as a death threat Yes...I'm surprised the alt-right is not all over it Yeah, I'm the only one who caught it. What is wrong with all of us? That was wrong these people so net neutrality expired Okay, let's play the bad mergers clip. So because I'm sure this is part of it

2:17:25 No, not necessarily. Question now is will Disney try to top Comcast's offer and this brewing battle occurs just as traditional media companies are trying to better compete with the likes of a Netflix. As we told you, Comcast was expected to make this offer if AT&T's proposal to take over Time Warner was approved and as we reported a federal judge cleared the way for that deal yesterday

2:18:06 Now, before... This was corruption at some level. There's no way… Anyway… I want your comment on this. I just want to say that this folds into net neutrality and we're going to explain once again what our stance is on that but this does have to do with it, I agree and the whole idea is will you have too much pipe in too much content? Am I correct? There's that issue. I don't see why they're so preoccupied with Netflix It's not as though they can't do this. Now, of course this opens the door for every stupid thing coming down the pipe which includes a T-Mobile merging with Sprint which is going to happen and there was another couple of these things floating around that are all gonna happen because this was a monster it should have been stopped

2:18:53 What is wrong with these judges and antitrust? There's got to be something else going on. There's no reason you would allow this. Comcast, which already owns Universal now they own another studio and they own the cable networks and they own NBC I mean it's like this... It's ridiculous! I have a different hunch about all of this And I think that this is going to be the death of AT&T. What is the company, what what is the company going to be called after the merger? Warner AT&T it's gonna be called AT&T okay yeah I know where you're going with this now eight now I want to mention by the way the Comcast Fox merger only came about because of the AT&T

2:19:40 Time Warner merger, which is what the White House bitched about. But now all these mergers are going to happen because this guy gave them the go-ahead. I think it's gonna be called AT&T. Okay and you know where i'm going with this? What your'e going with is they're gonna have to change the name and they're gonna... The AT&T we're dealing with is really I believe Southwestern Bell. Yes originally yeah The original AT&T is defunct. And these guys kind of bought this, this is aggressive phone local regional phone co. You got it? We're buying up everybody about Pacific Bell. They bought everything right in. They bought it all up. Yep. They bought it all about the whole country and then they bought the remnants of AT&T and then they said hey we're AT&T and they call themselves AT&T which I find to be creepy as almost like Frankenstein's monster now how much content is in this deal

2:20:41 AT&T's buying Time Warner. Right, so what are we talking? What kind of content? Well I think Time Warner... take a look on their wiki page to see what Time Warner owns they own lots of content okay see and they own the cable and they own this cable that you're I believe the way the world is going and i am from the future hashtag I think the bet on content and pipe is exactly the wrong thing to do. I think this is going to bankrupt this company. Let's hope! I would put all my money in AT&T and Sprint, they're going... Verizon... No no, AT&T you make your... I'm sorry, Sprint and T-Mobile. T-Mobile and Sprint

2:21:19 Verizon has also now, they're chopping all kinds of content deals they had. They purchased all that stupid shit with the Huffington Post and you know, Gawker or whatever the hell they bought... what did they buy? Dumb! Yeah, they just bought dumb. and they're moving away from it. These guys all understand that if they really, whoever focuses on the pipe and I think there'll be new wireless is a different issue but whoever focuses on the pipe and can achieve just net neutrality because their job is to deliver, to deliver what you want. They're going to win in this the content forget about it all these and this is decades of content investment and I blame Terry Semmel you know goes and maybe even Ted Leonsis to a degree

2:22:13 I'm thinking that, you know, though we put the content together with the pipe. No it's a failure! It's a big failure and yes i hope so So I'm very happy with this merger these guys will fail now we have issues with uh number of ISPs that are available in the United States certainly but I think that's pretty much everywhere You've got issues um all right Time Warner...I'm going to go over some of the things so we know what we're talking about Time Warner owns and now AT&T And I'm not going to argue necessarily your basic point, because unless they just want a Time Warner cable and they're gonna spin the rest of it off. Yeah but listen... Spin it off into what? I'm looking at Netflix. Let's just take Netflix. Fantastic! They're great. They are losing billions of dollars It's just like Uber and Airbnb all these conveniences there is a reason why we didn't have them before

2:23:12 It's because we didn't have morons to invest in this shitty stuff. It's dumb! They're not reaching the economies of scale that was promised, it's not getting there and the Netflix gravy train will end eventually unless they can figure it out and I don't think they can do that. It is very expensive to create good video content It's expensive and there are unions, guilds, payments and royalties. It is a very well oiled machine. It is a nightmare what you're saying! Correct! So Time Warner owns Homebox office with one to about 25 channels including Cinemax. HBO is the most profitable one of the bunch?

2:23:56 But they've been doing it for 50 years or 40 years. HBO is huge and they got them all over the world, they own Turner Broadcasting System TBS, TNT when you watch a true TV. TCM Turner Sports, the basketball games they're doing good money on that. A whole bunch of television stations everywhere CNN and CETVs. They own Warner Brothers Entertainment DC stuff, which is I guess now half owned. No they still own DC So they own the movie franchises for DC's lousy comic book movies Warner Brothers Studios in Levenston England and in tour We get it Wait hang on! Warner Brothers TV group which is a tonnage of stuff Warner Brothers home entertainment group

2:24:54 And then they have investments in a million other things. But anyway, okay I'll stop this is very expensive Operations very very expensive and they have a high margin of error Stuff just doesn't work and no longer low marge low margin of error know they have a high margin of error No, a high margin of error means they can screw up royally. Okay you're right yes I'm sorry a low margin of error but what i'm saying is they make a lot of duds! A lot of them! You don't know about them, you don't hear about them, they go away there's tons of duds and yeah you got to have one or two big hits um but the cost

2:25:33 to do this is so disproportionate. And, you know anyone who's smart looks at Netflix and says well great we'll have it all and how is that going to work? You gotta... they don't have control over the 24-hour cycle That's how you could do it look we're putting this on will get some ads if the ads aren't enough that's a failure You know, rarely do you have such a flop that no one watches it. Okay we'll make good on those ads, we bring in the mid-season replacement boom! You had no choice, you're watching this now we have choice of everything including dumb stuff on YouTube but also professionally produced independent content and you can watch it whenever you want their model is broken but the investment started back when was still gravy train days

2:26:17 So this comes into net neutrality because this is exactly what it's about. The argument is, and the argument is mainly from Facebook and Google and Twitter... It used to be from Netflix but they're smart they cut their deals with all the ISPs directly YouTube yeah well Google The argument is ISPS with all this groovy content And all the stuff they own which by the way runs on their own network has nothing to do with bits coming from the outside But okay They're going to slow down, degrade your experience so that you will be forced into choosing their stuff. That's the basic premise is they'll have it all, they'll have a lock on it and then you as poor little independent guy won't be able to go in and get your stuff in So thats kind of the issue that is coming up

2:27:08 But this is driven by Google and Facebook and Twitter, and all these guys because they want government regulations. And that is what net neutrality is about. In the government regulations we've seen every version of it clearly states ISPs will have the legal right to block unlawful content... That's a specific word. Unlawful content and unlawful network traffic Of course they would love to have that. They would love to have because they can comply with regulations like you and I can't This show would never comply with unlawful content somewhere down the line We're doing something on lawful in your ISP That's real breakage, they will be able to turn us off Because we have unlawful content that's why you do not want the government regulating that important piece of the connection the technological piece is

2:28:04 presents a different problem where the internet was built on the concept of peerage. It's not one big, well it's more one big network than it used to be but in the beginning when I was being build there were all these little networks and they would interconnect with a big router basically. That is what Internet meant? Yes that's yes the inter connection of networks and they connect at peering points. And peering, the word already says it you're each other's peer and the concept is well... You have so much people that need to access my network to get to another piece of the network and I send off almost equal amount of traffic to you we're calling in a wash no one owes anybody any money because it's not free if you have tons of people sucking down gigs video you need bigger routers bigger boxes bigger pipes It's not like

2:28:53 You know, it's not an infinite supply that just toodaloo-loo just kind of flows everywhere. There's a real cost to it I know I built a data center and went bankrupt so I know exactly what the cost is of Cisco machinery typically to get this done So these arguments are playing on people's emotions that your Netflix is gonna buffer or Your YouTube or your favorite tech video or whatever? It is and you're gonna be all business And the worst offender of this is a time code down there is the chairwoman Sorry chairperson of The Mozilla Foundation, and I'm not I was not familiar with this with this person. Yeah I'll tell you just looking at her already didn't like her

2:29:43 You know, one of those complicated haircuts like where does it start? Where does it end its shaved here and whatever. And she was on the what is that the it's on Newsy It's the intellectual debates or something forget what it's called there were some good people on it And she was on representing, please we need net neutrality. I'm going to play one little bit here This is where she explains the networking side What i just explained Is this a woman named Mitchell? Yes! That's the one. Mitchell Baker Yeah did you see her hair She looks very hawky Whatever that means The hairdo is complicated H-A-U G-H-T-Y not hot Yeah I know

2:30:33 So what I just explained about the networking side is the truth. That is why Netflix had a problem with the ISPs because they were shoving gigabytes of content into the ISP's and with no reciprocation, and like hold on a second you're just clogging up our routers here we need to do something about that which by the way it's called transit We have a word for it if you couldn't peer with someone you could buy transit from them These are well-established principles, but this is not what it's about. Again this is about the big Silicon Valley companies wanting the government to control you out of their way

2:31:10 And and I'll end the kicker of course comes on the second part of this woman's explanation But here's her technical explanation of why net neutrality is necessary. Just lay it out sure so when we talk about net neutrality We're actually talking about the network itself like that You might be physical part of how data moves or maybe the airwaves you know for part of it, but it's the physical Network Technically, the internet sits on top of that. Because the internet and the way we access data it has to travel like the bits, the electrons have to move and so it's that bit of transport of... The last bit of transport that goes to you, the consumer, that were actually talking about. The Internet sits on top of that and then what we call the platforms Facebook Google they all sit on top of that on higher layers up

2:31:57 All the internet, you know exists in layers and so net neutrality is the argument that the fundamental layer The most physical layer the way that bits actually move should be neutral And that if it's not neutral anytime we try to address the layers up above it, we're dealing with a crooked foundation and it can change at any time. Okay that's completely not the point I was just making! I agree with what you said but my point is look at Google Facebook and Amazon just as self-interest companies forget this thing about platforms they are saying they're big fans of net neutrality now I'm saying we need to ask ourselves why? So the way she just explained what's really going on... What a bunch of bullcrap that was yeah it was just no gobbledygook And what she fails to disclose

2:32:45 Well, actually I'll say it at the end here. So now she's going to talk about her history The history of Mozilla and the freedom fighters And I'm gonna say it up front She is full of crap How did Firefox, the Mozilla Foundation make its money? We all know the answer. Well, they made most of their money by putting a little search box in there and charging Google $275 million dollars? Yeah it's pass-through yeah that's how they made their money from day one they were in bed with Google and now this woman is out there shilling for Google but she's not gonna disclose it oh no she's a freedom fighter you know Mozilla and our work on Firefox would not be here without net neutrality we first built Firefox in 2004

2:33:29 as a non-profit. By definition, our goal is not maximizing revenue...not for ourselves... 275 million! Not for the ISPs, not for anyone else We were building a product everyone knew was irrelevant and we were challenging the tech giant of its time Microsoft which was essentially Google Apple Amazon all rolled into one What? Open source, which was very freaky at its time. We had no money for marketing to understand money for distribution 275 million we were building the internet as a public asset They were building the interning that was crazy for its time We were not anyone's model of an attractive business partner Wow one thing goes

2:34:20 She is so, I'd like you know what? I like about her. She's she's a giving person. She's really part of the community. She wants to do good work Oh by the way in 2018 she made 1.1 million dollars in compensation from Mozilla Because they're so poor They got no money. Freedom fighters! We were not anyone's model Of an attractive business partner They are the gulag of Silicon Valley But we had one thing going for us, along with our product. We had the open internet. We were able to offer our product and we were able to make it fast. We were able to make our download fast which is more important than you would ever think in trying to get a product adopted and we were able to make our download fast without worrying about what ISPs around the world would decide and whether their delivery practices would ruin our product

2:35:18 Without the open internet, we wouldn't have had a chance. And the opportunity of the open internet should be for all of us. Innovative business practices, innovative solutions should be distributed and each of us should have the opportunity without going through the gatekeeper of our ISP. So we urge you support The Motion, preserve net neutrality. Wow! Brazen just brazen Who needs a lobbying firm when you got that? Yeah, she's good. Yeah. Cal grad over here in the Boal Halls she gotta... She's a lawyer. Mm-hmm well she doesn't know jack about the internet. But she doesn't need to! The photons flying around what was she talking what kind of jive was she talking it's crazy

2:36:14 She's actually, Time Magazine made her one of the 100 most influential people in the world. Oh yeah? Well no wonder she got that hair. I've never heard of her before your president but okay... So i got some follow-up on the PBIS The uh... A lot of people like that little presentation Yeah well the responses there are some very... By the way she was also the lawyer for Sun Microsys or Associate Lawyer associate was with this read she started and son Mike. Yes, I'm a racist Yeah, so I got a number of interesting emails the so this was about the behavioral What was it what did PBIS stand for again?

2:37:00 Well, it's yeah I know. It's the bottom line is PBIS is a program that punishes or does not punish children based upon their political identifiers such as poor or black. Positive behavioral intervention and support thank you and we also tied into that how Google has flushed themselves into schools and I got a note from one of our One of our people who would know on the last episode are you talking about Chromebooks and education? I completely agree These Chromebooks are being used to take over the school system and get more students into the Google world But it goes a step farther Many school systems including universities are switching from hosting their own servers or Microsoft servers for mail calendar Etc to Google's G suite

2:37:53 Sure, it's great for IT since everything is Google managed but like you said make Google slaves from a very young age. This is troublesome I know many nonprofits who use the G Suite I think that's a wow what a single point of failure you're in and the you know use cloud and all this stuff if Google just decides that you're on the Southern Poverty Law Center's list or something, we not gonna serve you. Boom done everything is gone your company is gone overnight in a second yeah it would be going overnight my always bad idea Now I think that's quite frightening that people are all in on Google like that and who is to say they're not looking at, you know there could be all kinds of stuff going on. Our producer says Apple does not have educational products our new 6th gen iPad with pencil support is very cheap and targeted right at the education market we have some apps like classroom which make it very easy to manage students iPads while in the classroom one even has a sign-in mode on the iPads if the school doesn't want

2:38:55 to do a one-to-one program, although Google makes it very hard when they just throw free stuff at schools with the intent of harvest all the data they can from students because of Apple's stance on privacy. It makes it more difficult to give away free stuff to schools Like I said, we're marketing our 6th gen iPad towards K12. Our keynote for it was even at a school in Chicago and we worked with Logitech to make it cheaper and more durable stylus called the crayon that uses the same technology as pencil so Apple is definitely in education they're trying but then like this It's tough for them And I can see why They dropped the ball

2:39:32 Yeah, you know Google has the right idea. They got a cheap cheap product You know Apple always wanted to sell I don't think they were giving away there was one to sell From sir Ryan checking in from Colorado not only am in middle school teacher Thank you for your courage But I also have a master's degree and curriculum development and a masters in educational leadership Wow man, he should do a podcast Through my work I have led school-wide and district wide PBIS teams for several years now. Hey John, this is straight from the horse's mouth! This is good news Are you still there? Yeah. All right, I can tell you that all schools must hold something called a manifesting meeting which considers if A student's misbehavior is caused by a student's disability Which all students basically have he says if it has found that the behavior does does come from a disability Which it always is He says that student is not legally allowed to be punished for their behavior and

2:40:33 I can tell you that teachers are going out of their minds trying to manage a classroom full of kids that feel empowered because they know the teacher can't legally punish them. Worse is the implementation of restorative justice in schools This is a legal philosophy in juvenile criminal justice That is being bastardized by school administrators To keep problem kids in the classroom and lower their referral number and suspension rate for students Just want you to know that many of us teachers are aware of the madness and doing all we can to combat it for our own classrooms. Feel free to share if you'd like to reach out or if you have any education questions." Why don't... Can you, I do have one for him but I want you to make sure to forward-I don't know if I have that note was it forward? Did I get a copy?" Uh probably not

2:41:19 Well, send it to me. I'm gonna put it on...I'm putting a website up of notes like that is just feedback from our listeners Here's one from Lon Wait wait! I have a question for him Oh okay, I didn't know you're going to do publicly Okay good go I want him to look at learn.kqed.org and tell me what he thinks, it's a thing they've created...in fact they have a clip if you want, I don't wanna interrupt your presentation. No let's do a clip that's a nice little break. Play the Learn KQED clip about what this is all about.

2:41:56 Any subject area, any teacher could have students use the site. They're practicing digital citizenship and we're reinforcing the academic skills. It asks students to investigate beyond the basics The engagement piece was definitely the above-the-noise videos We'll cut through the hype and take you above the noise Students absolutely loved the above-the-noise videos it's a great way they've introduced them to a topic and get them talking about it It provides them with an opportunity to pose their own question, to research per capita energy-related carbon dioxide emissions and get them creating their own investigations. Why are we so attached to social media? What is the real definition of feminism? What happens when only one side of a story is told? How can I find a college? Being able to analyze information in their own voice is something that they need to do more and more Maybe you can look at... The finding project

2:42:49 The make and share on KQED Learn has been incredible. They were creating infographics, videos, images with voiceovers, podcasts... I told the students my heart was full! I got the most in-depth presentations i've gotten in five years What inspired me to choose this topic is.... The students get excited when they started receiving responses from other people It looks like someone commented on our Source. What excited me the most about it was the collaboration and the fact that it is free, and that their goal is to keep it that way The fact that its KQED was really comforting to me I knew it was reliable unbiased credible And I knew that it was going to be safe for my students That's a no-brainer It's KQED Unbiased my ass Yeah This is what happens when you remove teachers from the equation

2:43:44 Then you get this and I have a, I think I have a decent analogy from Johnny B. Now the analogy here is basically turning over education to whoever makes the learning materials that the kids are doing on their iPads and the computers and like it sound like they were doing YouTube videos on a social net. I don't know what the hell that was about uh And you made a pretty good argument On the previous episode that nothing goes above a human being trying to teach you something Nothing, nothing and here's the analogy Johnny B says I worked for Radio Shack for a decade a decade Between 99 and 09 when I first started working there You had a stack of books on various subjects all related to the stock in the store In your first 90 days. You were required to read the books and take a scantron red multiple-choice test

2:44:43 You would send the test sheet to Fort Worth where it would get run through a machine and then get your results mailed back to the store. The hardest of these tests was 125 or so questions, and was the parts training. Now these test were open book but you had to look up the answers in old-fashioned way and actually read the material Sometime around 2003-2004, they scrapped testing this way and went with a super dumbed down computer based training. So dumbed down that when you got to the Q&A part they would give you the right answer You could immediately retake the test and pass They scrapped the parts test, the computer knowledge test and the AV test. Prior to computer training, people who wanted to sell everything they could had tools that made them and Radio Shack successful This is one of many mistakes that made Radio Shack go under Some asshole managers which was a lot of them complained about having to fire people who didn't complete the required training because it was too hard And instead of having knowledgeable salespeople, they had clerks that couldn't help out customers who needed problems solved

2:45:44 It's around the same time they scrapped you've got questions. We've got answers and I remember that because we pitch Radio Shack with my first company, and we had a whole pitch based on We've Got Answers. We had answers calm. I think we had all the way to the whole pitch And they went yeah, we're dropping that Was not a great pitch. If they're going to do this shit to my kids in school, and my son starts kindergarten next year I might go the way of Dvorak and homeschool Just thought you might want an example of shit computer training that played out to the detriment of a retail chain That was 100 years old when it fell And i think that's a great analogy It's fantastic! I want that letter too send it to me Oh man

2:46:29 You know it's so love so much work. It's really not and then Just one more one more on PBIS yeah This is lawn, this is like a new theme This is our this is our second half of 2018 theme I'm sensing all right could be feeling good This is long gives me a little background info PBS that I think he's oh more in favor of it than some others. PBIS is a set of tools for schools and teachers to provide behavioral support to kids based on their needs It partly came into being because federal and state laws require every kid to receive an equal education, and every is capitalized so I guess every kid even the ones that have behavioral issues

2:47:15 So schools are including kids at all stages of development from typical to those with severe behavioral issues in the same environment. This causes schools to hire psychologists, behavioral staff and PBIS grew out of the need to have some structure for these new aspects of the educational system In the past, most of the challenging kids were relegated to state institutions special schools or worse. We are seeing parents teachers and professionals clash over how all kids are educated interacting and resources of school are spent It is very ugly on the front lines with kids caught in the middle of adults signaling superior parenting privilege I see this side of the argument too

2:47:59 But it sounds to me like teachers and educators in general, in the whole system. They're getting a real raw deal out of whatever this privileged PC society is delivering to us." Oh, it's terrible but as part of the bigger debate... It's again the conservatives versus the liberals and we've talked about this before, these are two words that define each side. The conservatives are for liberty freedom and the liberals are for justice and equality. And this stems from the equality part of the liberal side of the arguments

2:48:42 And because that's what it is, just permeating society. It's a huge plague this is one of the reasons Trump got in because people sense there's something wrong with this sort of thing even though I think you just put your fingers on it You really... That was good! Okay? You really explained it in one paragraph Well yes, I did think so I haven't since you're on the, you're done with that? One more note. This is a quickie from Ryan and it's more of the same kind of but said in a different way Adam and John am a high school teacher at a PBIS school Bless you guys, bless all of you for being that just from the get-go. Bless you! From my experience programs such as this are only minimally implemented because of the system's mostly the teachers resistance to change The teachers in public education work very independently from each other and oversight from administration and tend to

2:49:36 continue teaching according to their own style. I believe that Marjory Stoneman Douglas likely pursued PBIS because of the grant funding available to the school, which is in the tens-of-thousands similarly to their pursuit of grants related to lowering student crime and i'm sure many others again I believe it's unlikely that the PBIS program made any impact on the school other than monetarily as for teaching students how to behave this IS a MAJOR PROBLEM all caps Teachers like to do that with many parents completely apps with many parents completely dropping the ball It is hard enough teaching them almost anything when there is no pressure from the kids from on the kids from home Let alone how to behave at school love the show Ryan. Yeah, and That's really what it comes down to his parents You know they're like hey you can't talk to my kid that way whatever bullcrap and teachers have no power powerless

2:50:38 That's been getting worse. They probably, I don't know what...I have no idea how this is going to resolve itself. Home schooling? Well they're resisting that and trying to make it illegal in most states. Isn't that great! Yeah yeah i don't know but you're right and you said this is the reason for Trump so yeah people know something's up Yeah, and they want somebody to stop it. And he seemed to be a guy who at least talked of the good game He's talking the game for sure All right you got one more thing to get us out of here cuz we're running late Oh, you know what I almost forgot where is it? Ah, I'm not doing it right This is what I should do Excuse me Adam but you've got a plane to catch I finally got my guy actually I got two guys You've gotta play mr.. Curry now

2:51:40 I gotta say, you know. I like Chris Wilson's voice and it's got but the second guy seems more real That's sir a that secret agent Paul yeah, but but Sir Chris gave me a whole stack so Excuse me Adam your service goat Trevor is getting a little impatient So that means I gotta go Let's just let us play out. This is me my last one then I got these other ones are good for carryovers Okay, but I thought it was funny there now we're starting to see this meme is starting to creep in I don't know how far It's gonna go how far it's gonna get but this is a hacking at 757 oh yes

2:52:26 It is not a question of if but when. Hackers will take over a commercial jetliner, that is the warning from cyber security experts. Here's Chris Van Cleef A stark declaration in documents obtained by CBS News today from the Department of Homeland Security In this presentation from earlier this year, researchers warned it's a matter of time before cyber security breach on an airline occurs. That assessment came after a DHS decision to launch and nose-to-tail series of tests on this Boeing 757 for hacking weak spots. Those tests came after a DHS team led by Dr Robert Hickey took just two days hack remotely into the plane while it was parked at an FAA facility at the Atlantic City Airport in September 2016

2:53:10 The DHS team got in through the plane's radio frequency communications using typical stuff that could be brought through airport security. In response, DHS scheduled those further hacking attempts on the plane including efforts to access flight management life support autopilot the planes electrical and fuel systems as well as its engines now I think we've come realize cyber threat is everywhere Ron Hosko is the former assistant director of the FBI my fear is that Our nation acts most directly when they're on the backside of a crisis. The crisis has occurred, we lose a lot of lives and now were prepared to put money into infrastructure." While the 757 hasn't been built since 2004 it is an aging workhorse for American Delta and United President Trump's personal plane is a 757 so was the aircraft often used by Vice President Mike Pence

2:54:06 Experts wanted to know if hackers could use the in-flight Wi-Fi, the infotainment system or even a USB charging port to get into a plane's system. Now Boeing says its aircraft are safe that it is confident in its cyber security measures and does not believe the testing has revealed a cyber vulnerability in the 757. I'm kind of sad that you brought this up at the end of this program because I have been doing a lot of research for the past three weeks on this report. This is a old, this is an aviation type of airman research. I'm smelling a TV movie for...TV movie. Well here's the homework and everyone can go look at it if you want to look up B U A P Boeing uninterruptible autopilot and what this does what its been implemented in which indeed isn't 757 747 even an Airbus

2:55:00 I believe that there's a possibility that some of these missing aircraft have been hijacked through the BUAP system. It's real, you can remote control the aircraft from the ground There's a fun little side note to this. The patent for this was originally, there was a lot of noise about it, it was originally sold through the law firm of, what is it? Shuckum Jivem and Rose, the one that Hillary Clinton belonged to back in the day. It's called The Quartz Patent if you want to look it up. So on the next show I think I should expand a little bit on that. Roll it out!

2:55:45 I wasn't quite prepared today, but this is one of the best teases we've ever had so i'm happy for that. I agree And we'll also be deconstructing the OIG report- OIG OMG it's the OIG! Uh that's due today? I guess it already come out So we'll have to sift through that and then we will deconstruct anything else There are tons of stuff going on in the United States of Europe as well That I want to get too And as always, coming to you from downtown Austin Texas. Capital of the drone star state here in FEMA region number six on the governmental maps in the common law cludio... The common law condo in the Cludio I should say In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the sun's come out and it is bright Wow! I am John C. Dvorak Remember us for Sunday show at dvorak dot org slash N A Happy Fathers Day in advance and until next time

2:56:45 Adios, mofos! I need a cab. Well you're not getting one President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani tells ABCs This Week that the president has the power to pardon himself. He probably does!

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