Episode 1038 · Wednesday, 6 June 2018

End of an Era

Military leaders warn of North Korean nuclear escalation as domestic media figures invoke the Twenty-Fifth Amendment and historians reveal new details of Barack Obama’s early life.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1038

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Admiral Harry Harris, head of Pacific Command, testified before Congress regarding the immediate military threat posed by North Korea and the defensive readiness of the Carl Vinson Strike Group. Harris explicitly rejected claims that Kim Jong-un would refrain from attacking the United States once nuclear capability is achieved, citing the USS Wayne E. Meyer and USS Michael Murphy as primary shields against incoming missiles. The testimony comes as Newt Gingrich warns of a potential scorched-earth response should the U.S. pursue a military coup or preemptive strikes to disable the regime's ICBM program.

Secondary reports from Pyongyang detail a defiant missile misfire and a massive military parade featuring suspected solid-fuel technology, though analysts question if the displayed canisters were merely wooden decoys. Former Ambassador Chris Hill and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis emphasize diplomatic pressure while the U.S. Air Force conducts elephant walks with F-15s in Japan. Domestically, the Morning Joe panel and personalities on The View cite the Twenty-Fifth Amendment and the Goldwater Rule to question the President's mental stability, while historian David Garrow’s biography Rising Star reveals new details about Barack Obama’s early life and private correspondence at Occidental College.

This special edition marks the final production by Ramsey Cain, who concludes a multi-year run of clip shows to transition into a new career. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak reflect on the evolution of the No Agenda direct-support model while exploring the technical oddities of North Korean number stations like The Parrot. The episode features a tribute to Cain’s contribution to the show's production history before returning to the regular live deconstruction format.


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CHAPTER 01 / 30 Discussion

Ramsey Cain Final Best Of Special Edition

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak introduce a special "Best Of" edition of the show, noting it is likely the final compilation produced by long-time contributor Ramsey Cain. Cain has moved on to a new job, ending a run of approximately six to ten produced clip shows. The hosts discuss the rarity of taking time off, noting they only do so a few times a year, and invite listeners to provide feedback on the "Best Of" format.

ramsey cain· clip show· best of· special edition· podcast production

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Thursday May 31st 2018 This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1038! This is no agenda Guarding your reality even when we're not and broadcasting almost live from the capital drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I can't give you the weather today because...I'm not really here. I'm John C. DeVore It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yes it is one of those two times a year occasions

00:36 Crackpot and Butterfield. That's what it sounds like. Crackpot and Butterfield, no. And Buzzkill! Crackpot and Buzzkill. Yes in the morning to you John? In the morning to you. Midnight morning to all of ships at sea and boots on the ground. Feet in the air subs in the water. Yeah special edition. Special edition of The No Agenda Show today as I have taken The Keeper away for a little break which she needed Yes, and we this is actually kind of momentous because we're dealing with probably the last clip show that Ramsey Cain will ever produce because he's gone off to a new job that doesn't give him the free time He used to have To do stuff like Ramsey has done. How many has he done for us? I think he's done six

01:16 No, I thought okay. I thought it was closer to 10 but he's a lot for sure a lot of them Well this is the last one no matter how many yeah and he does a great job Nobody else has ever volunteered to do this we have to do them ourselves And what we do is usually fall back on interviews or some other thing. But something that's much easier for us to do... This is momentous because his stuff it always good, It's always entertaining and it always gives us a good flavor, A good take on the show and now we have to use this before it gets too old. Before it gets too old yeah! So we leave it open if anyone has any ideas for best ofs because we do have one I think like two cases a year maybe?

01:57 Two shows a year that we don't do the show on a regular Thursday or Sunday? Maybe, I dunno. Four? No! It's not a lot- Not four... We've done three one year. Yeah, sure the ah yes remember that was a great year we got three whole days off mmm Jiminy Cricket that was nice it's actually not a complete deal because we're doing this true all right so this is Ramsey Caines final best of where I It's been a couple weeks since I've heard it so I do love listening to it with fresh ears I hope you enjoy it as well And we'll be back, well we'll break in about halfway. So without further ado another No Agenda Best Of brought to you by Sir Ramsey Cain The following podcast contains the mingling of jingles I'm shocked! Shocked to find jingle-mingling going on here Jingle Mingling It may also cause a leakage

CHAPTER 02 / 30 Discussion

Soothe Chrome Extension for Content Filtering

A new Chrome extension called Soothe is designed to help users avoid malicious content and online harassment by blurring out specific triggers. Users can customize the types of content they wish to avoid, with the option to click and reveal blurred text. The hosts express skepticism regarding the professional design of the plugin and speculate about potential venture capital backing or ulterior motives behind the service.

soothe· chrome extension· content filtering· online harassment· triggers

02:54 I'm shocked, shocked to find anal leakage in here. Listener discretion is advised. ANAL LEAKAGE! Um... There's a new uh plugin for Chrome not a new idea we've had it for many times and a long time It's called Soothe-the Soothe-th Soothe is a Chrome extension made to help people browse the web without seeing malicious content Our main goal is to prevent online harassment and help users avoid seeing triggers while they browse the web. We strongly believe that no one online should have to worry about this, that's right! Just make it safe The process is simple and subtle Check off the type of content you want to avoid and let us handle the rest Questionable content is blurred out If you wish to see it nonetheless You can click to reveal the text So its one of these- I wonder what it blurs out Oh no it changes words

03:49 Oh, that's always doable. Yeah it changes words blur stuff out you got a question of who is behind this I mean they're gonna make money off of this i'm sure... I hope not. Well it looks too professional. I wonder who is in charge of this? Hmm, they've got to have some VC or some some douchebag is in Virginia. Some douchebag is paying for this but Let's see we have a lot of f-russia stuff going on well before we do that Oh I'm sorry week can we do a little F Korea? North Korea think we need to proudly show our big foam middle finger to North Korea

CHAPTER 03 / 30 Discussion

Admiral Harry Harris Testifies on North Korean Military Threat

Admiral Harry Harris, head of Pacific Command (PACOM), testified before Congress regarding the immediate military threat posed by North Korea. Harris emphasized that while a full-scale war is unlikely due to the cost, he remains concerned about "small" provocations like the sinking of the Chonan. He explicitly disagreed with congressional assertions that North Korea would not attack the United States or its allies once they achieve full nuclear capability.

paccom· harry harris· north korea· congress· military funding

04:29 Now the reason I say that is because PACCOM, the big PAC-COM guy. What's that? PAC-COM. The Pacific Command. Oh yes! PAC-COM. The Admiral who runs it was testifying before Congress and I watched the testimony and he did everything he could to try to indicate they need more money And Korea's going to attack at any moment. Oh, more money! More money! What actions do you potentially see North Korea Kim Jong-un taking that are most concerning? And by that I mean putting aside for the moment what sort of capability they're building what might they do offensively militarily a few years back

05:09 I believe they sank a South Korean vessel, they launched some missiles at a South Korean-controlled island. Do you see similar things that North Korea could do? I mean, I don't think any of us anticipate that they're just going to do a full scale war because they know the cost of that but are there places where they would try to push the envelope And if so, what are your concerns about what they might do militarily against either our assets in the region or our allies? Sir I'm not as certain about this as you are that North Korea won't do something precipitous because of the regime. Oh i'm not saying i'm certain they are. I am asking what it would be.

05:55 Well, I mean it could be what we've seen before. Which provocations like the sinking of the Chonan or the attacks on Waipedo Island and the continuing evolution of their nuclear and ballistic missile testing. All that... Just to be clear in the purpose of this question, ummm....I'm not at all certain they're not going to do something. I am confident Admiral, I'm not certain of anything at this point in my life. It's just the nature of the world but um...I am reasonably confident that North Korea sees the threat of launching a full-on war against South Korea or Japan and the consequences of that what i'm worried about is that they will do these sort of little small things

06:45 thinking they can get away with it and be wrong. And I'm trying to get a greater clarity of what those small things are, which is why I cited those two previous examples in the current environment what are you worried about? Are they likely to once again try to sink a South Korean ship or there disputed territories that they might try to take over where should we would be looking for that small thing that could lead to the larger much more dangerous... First off sir, I don't share your confidence that North Korea is not going to attack either South Korea or Japan or the United States or our territories are states Oh, yeah, or parts of the United States once they have the capability. Oh My god those on sales sales call was McCain in this meeting

CHAPTER 04 / 30 Discussion

Ambassador Chris Hill on Kim Jong-un and Nuclear Capability

Former Ambassador Chris Hill, speaking from the University of Denver, characterizes North Korea as a direct threat to the 30,000 Americans stationed in South Korea. Hill contrasts Kim Jong-un with his father, Kim Jong-il, noting the son's lack of interest in traditional negotiations or Chinese influence. Experts suggest that within four years, North Korea could possess a credible missile system capable of delivering a nuclear warhead.

chris hill· university of denver· kim jong-un· nuclear weapons· south korea

07:39 No, this was the house. Oh okay. McCain could be... He's probably under the table giving him a handy I wouldn't be surprised so there is a guy from University of Denver This clip is called North Luria U Denver who was an ex-ambassador or something and he gets involved with some negotiations with Kim Jong Il It comes out of the University of Denver is a very strange school. You can look it up as mostly they do a lot of professional training It seems like a spook school that Colorado College is kind of a spook school This is something else and I'm not you may be a spook school But listen to this north this guy talked for a minute on you see Trump is increasing US military strength North Korea University at Denver yeah, North Korea University of Denver

08:36 That's what I don't know. What could this is? Thank you, President Trump is increasing US military strength around the Korean peninsula after missile tests by the North. Well this evening we spoke with former Ambassador Chris Hill who led the U.S. delegation in 2005 in talks with the north over curtailing its nuclear program. Hill was the dean of the University of Denver's Joseph Corbel School of International Studies Mr ambassador In terms of American lives, is North Korea a threat or an irritant? It's a threat. First of all we have some 28-30 thousand Americans in South Korea but we have to understand this is an agreement that we are duty bound treaty bound to come to South Korea's defense Why why why

09:31 Oh, treaty. What treaty is this? The defense treaty I don't know there's a treaty we signed that's why we're still there i think because that war never ended and we don't want to end it We never want to meet with North Korea The whole thing's a scam to sell arms Ah! That treaty yes Should the North Koreans attack if we have to go in there we would be in the middle of a fight so you bet It's a threat too to our lives. You led the American delegation negotiating a nuclear agreement with the current dictator's father, what do we know about the son Kim Jong-un? His father seemed to care what China thought, seemed to care what we thought and what distinguishes I think his son Kim Jong-un he doesn't seem to care what any of us think and he certainly not been interested in any phase of negotiations

10:17 Is he saying? Which is the number one thing we know that they actually want. They want negotiation, they do not want armistice. They want to be seen as a full country. We can't do that because China and because arms sales. This is how millennials think. No, no, we could do it if we wanted to. China or no China No, we China would they don't want to do all this so have no what I mean by that is we need To have our spy crap over there to spy on China under the guise of North Korea Yes, China and then China knows this and the thing they did don't know well Maybe he does mention because somebody mentioned it which is that the agreement? We have a South Korea to protect them at their attack. Oh

10:56 is almost the same as the agreement that China has with North Korea if they're attacked. So a war with North Korea is now a war with China? Yeah, but we were not at war... We're not going to go to any wars it's not going to happen I can tell you that right now. Making sure that everyone works for him. Yeah, yeah We know that the North Koreans have been successful in building missiles and successful in detonating Nuclear weapons and tests the real trick is putting those two things together What are the chances of the North Koreans are close?

11:43 You know, very hard to say. But the feeling is that within the next four years they could have a missile system with a nuclear warhead that would be credible whether it would finally work when they push the button hard to say but it will be credible and any president would have to consider that as a real threat. We're all gonna die! I got plenty of these clips, but there's one more clip. I want to play for sure which is this is the PACOM guy again and he decided to you could win a little bit off script and he decides to discuss

CHAPTER 05 / 30 Discussion

Carl Vinson Strike Group Missile Defense Capabilities

The Admiral of PACOM defends the defensive capabilities of the Carl Vinson Strike Group against reports suggesting it cannot intercept North Korean missiles. He highlights the presence of guided-missile destroyers like the USS Wayne E. Meyer and USS Michael Murphy as primary defenses. The Admiral asserts that any threat flying against the strike group "will die," emphasizing the group's readiness to project power if ordered by the President.

carl vinson· uss michael murphy· ballistic missiles· navy· strike group

12:24 Let's see what I have in here. This is the group that Trump sent over, there was the Carl Vinson Group which got the Carl Vinson which is a big carrier. It's a huge carrier with a bunch of boats around it and ships around it and I guess something was written by the WAPO or the... somebody wrote something that just didn't fit. He was irked by it, and so he corrects the record pointing out that apparently the article is just a piece of crap. This is Carl Vensor. It says strike group defense question

13:03 Okay, here sorry on the front lines. I want to ask my questions on on Defending against missiles and and actually I want to ask it in two different areas You described some additional forces that we are putting into the region I know there have been some press reports that say that somehow those forces are not able to defend against missiles launched from North Korea. Let me just ask, can American military forces in that region defend themselves against missiles launched from North Korea?

13:51 Mr. Chairman, absolutely there was an article that came out this morning from one of the outlets that suggested that the Carl Vinson strike group and I think it's appropriate they were talking about the Carl Vinson here in this room, the Carl Vinson room, that the Carl Vinson strike group with its incredible capability to include two guided missile destroyers Wayne Meier and Michael Murphy and a link shape plane that somehow that carrier strike group would not be able to defend itself against ballistic missiles. I believe that article and articles like that are both misleading, and they conflate apples and oranges if you will We have ballistic missile ships in the Sea of Japan in the East Sea that are capable of defending against ballistic missile attacks

14:42 Where is this coming from? Do these guys operate autonomously, do they just say... Has President Trump just said, ehh do whatever you need to do. I really want to know! This-I've never heard the rhetoric ratcheted up so much in the past couple years Partially by him with a big armada. What is the end goal? Do we have a big sale, I mean when is the big... Is there a big... The sales done! The sales of those crazy missile system that they put in South Korea. Yeah, the THAAD. They have a bunch of the THAAD or THAD. They have a bunch of protests and it's a big stink going on in South Korea because they don't want this thing in there. No, of course they do not want that

15:25 But I mean, if the sale is done... What are they doing? Yes. Well, I think what happened, I think they got dragged into Congress And I don't know what with the point of this is. That's why this guy is correcting their record on the defense capabilities of these Okay, well let's hear the rest North Korea does not have a ballistic missile anti-ship weapon All we are told is be very afraid they can strap a nuke onto it They gotta this oh they're gonna kill us if they can't even hit a ship They can't even hit a ship.

16:17 the Carl Vinson Strike Group are easily defended by the capabilities resident in that strike group. If it flies, it will die if its flying against the Carl Vinson Strike Group so I'm confident and that could be a good thing." If it flies, he will die. If it flies, he will die. Picture of Kim Jong-un right there... if it flies, he will die! A resident in that strike group. If it flies, they will die. If its flying against the Carl Vinson Strike Group So I'm confident and that strike groups ability to not only defend itself but to project power if that is the call we receive from the President and Secretary of Defense sir. Jeez Yeah

CHAPTER 06 / 30 Discussion

Newt Gingrich Speculates on North Korean Regime Change

Newt Gingrich discusses potential outcomes for the North Korean crisis, including a military coup or targeted U.S. military actions to disable nuclear-capable missiles. Gingrich describes Kim Jong-un as "unhinged" and "mentally unstable," citing reports of the leader killing his own family members. He warns that the U.S. must be prepared for a "scorched earth" response from North Korea if military intervention is pursued.

newt gingrich· kim jong-un· military coup· fox news· scorched earth

17:06 It's very if you send somebody over there and have a meeting and the thing would be over resolved Meanwhile, we don't do that. We don't have a new leader in South Korea yet Do we I think that still unresolved? Well no i'm not saying it south korea meet with kim jong yum-yum In North Korean the whole thing is over Just get a thing is that huge tourist trap after that. I don't know why they won't do that They just want to keep this up and want to keep this bullcrap going Yeah, well I find it very annoying Well, here's a good example of how annoying it can get. This is Gingrich spitballing I put on this clip with...I think Fox News or one of these outlets and he's just part of this whole scheme. When you heard at the beginning of the show that guy was trying to drain the swamp talking about the kind of weird corruption that goes on in Washington DC it's just part of a lifestyle after awhile

18:06 Or there will be a military coup and he will be replaced by a more rational leader. Or we will begin to take military actions which could start with things as simple as killing any missile that would be capable of carrying a nuclear weapon, it could be steps that are short of starting an all-out war. And the question then is, what does he do? To what degree—and we don't know the answer—to what degree does he want to survive? To what degree does he think that if he's not tough that he won't survive in his own society because they'll kill him? But look at this recent behavior. He's killed a brother. Very dangerous.

18:47 No, you're saying it wrong. He fed his uncle to the dogs remember? He fed him to the dogs and dogs ate him. But look at this recent behavior he's killed a brother, he's killed an uncle, he's killed... You know other detractors. He called a girlfriend- Look! He killed his girlfriend in her entire band I mean this is guys- Wait wait wait I didn't hear about this. I didn't either. What band? Some band are dead! I think if...I'm okay with Kim Jong-un killing bands, but I want us to help vote for which one Yeah. The girlfriend...look he killed his girlfriend and her entire band. This is a guy who's unhinged He's unhinged!!

19:32 I think it makes it in the immediate future very, very dangerous. Look, what we've got to consider here is if America's going to take this action, we better be prepared for him if he's as mentally unstable as reports have said that he would go scorched earth. That's a possibility now what do you make of like for example the president did have great meetings with the President of China all right fine okay I'm gonna tell you something right now they have nothing, they have absolutely nothing there's nothing we can do whatever we want this is classic this is the media it's unbelievable just to talk about scorched earth they just make it up

CHAPTER 07 / 30 Discussion

Salon Magazine Advocates for Maxine Waters Presidency

A video from Salon Magazine outlines five reasons why Representative Maxine Waters should run for President of the United States. The reasons include her history as an advocate for the poor, her early opposition to the Iraq War, and her popularity among millennials. The segment emphasizes her willingness to directly attack the Trump administration and her identity as a "strong black woman" who will not be intimidated.

maxine waters· salon magazine· millennials· 2020 election· anti-war

20:17 Go on and on. It's just to excite the public, it's ridiculous. The fact of the matter is this liberal will be all about socializing. Hello? Scumbag! Alexa flip a coin Tails I win. Yeah, here we go you get to go first This is now We know the melons all love Maxine that's right got to keep my maxine clip for the last bit All the melons love the Maxine and I have from salon magazine the top five of you What yeah this is the MWM W? Yeah The MW here's a melon a black melon from salon telling us so the top five reasons why

21:07 LMW should be the president of the United States. I'm D-Wag and today with The Salon 5, and today we're gonna give you five reasons why Maxine Waters should be our next president. Number five, Maxine understands the people. She's the fifth of 13 children and she started working in segregated restaurants at the age of 13 so hard work is in her blood. Number four, Maxine Waters has an amazing reputation for being a fearless outspoken advocate for women, the poor, children, people of color pretty much everybody that was left out of the Trump campaign Fighting for what's right is not a new thing to Maxine Waters. Before she was even elected to Congress, she was out there on the front lines fighting against divestment from the South African Apartheid regime. Number three, Maxine was actually one of few people who were against war in Iraq and that something Clinton, Bush, Trump, McCain all those people couldn't really figure out

21:55 Number two, she loves the millennials and we love her back. Last week she confessed her love for us on Now This where she talked about everything she's learning from us and how she has to evolve with the people. She's learning a language, she's using internet, and we're all moving forward because of that. The number one reason why we want Maxine Waters to be our next president is because she's not afraid to attack the right. She's had tough words for everybody from Bill O'Reilly all the way up to the White House. Maxine Waters is one of only few Democrats that are stepping up. about Trump, his ties to Russia and letting him know in her own words bombing another country does not make you presidential. These are tough times and in tough times you need a tough leader that's why I nominate Maxine Waters to be our next president because again Maxine Waters let you know that she is a strong black woman and she will not be intimidated so neither should you.

22:50 Let me just hear the chorus. Oh yeah! 1, 2, 3, 4... Backstreet! There you go that was all the work I put in last night to make that fit perfectly. Dynamite hit the post That's a crazy world we live in but at least we're gonna give you the reality check and I would like to read you something which I remembered to get from one of my many books here in the library. And you tell me where this is from, you probably know. This may explain the situation we're in today. Here we go. Atlas shrugged. No!

CHAPTER 08 / 30 Discussion

George Orwell 1984 Reality Control Comparison

A passage from George Orwell's "1984" is read to illustrate the concept of "reality control" and "doublethink." The text describes how the party imposes lies that eventually pass into history as truth by controlling the present and the past. The hosts suggest that modern society is currently living through the scenarios described in Orwell's dystopian novel.

1984· george orwell· newspeak· doublethink· reality control

23:35 And if all others accepted the lie which the party imposed, if all records told the same tale then the lie passed into history and became truth. Who controls the past ran the party slogan controls the future who controls the present controls the past and yet the past Though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting it was quite simple all that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory reality control they called it in newspeak double think 1984 yes you are correct sir we're living it living the dream last night no Friday night

CHAPTER 09 / 30 Discussion

Robert De Niro Wag the Dog Propaganda Irony

The hosts discuss the 1997 film "Wag the Dog," produced by and starring Robert De Niro, which explores the creation of fake wars for political gain. They contrast De Niro's understanding of propaganda in the film with his recent scripted, aggressive public outbursts against Donald Trump. The discussion questions whether De Niro is acting out a role or has forgotten the lessons of his own film regarding media manipulation.

robert de niro· wag the dog· propaganda· donald trump· hollywood

24:24 I was able to introduce Tina the Keeper to a no agenda favorite which we've talked about and i'm sure many people still have not seen it. You need to see this movie, and I was happy I saw it again because I had no idea how many people were in this that are now super superstars okay? And that is Wag the Dog! Oh yeah great movie So it's a Robert De Niro, he is a Gov Fed and he has to because his the president up for re-election. He has some sex scandal with 13 year old some crazy stuff like that. Yeah, he is a spook! And then he goes to see Dustin Hoffman the Crazy Producer which by the way pretty much exactly the way crazy producers are sometimes in those big houses running around and not giving a crap I think so. Tina first you said oh this is like how you and John always talk on the show?

25:13 Exactly. Exactly, exactly and as we're watching this she says wait a minute because this is also this movie was produced by Robert De Niro by Tribeca Films And what's the date on this movie just so we can get that straight? 1997 20 years old This movie is twenty years old an already everything and they were still using blue screen for chroma key effects before green screen became the norm so they give you any idea but what Tina got upset was, wait a minute. So De Niro produced this movie he stars in this movie he clearly understands the idea of propaganda being done through Hollywood otherwise you don't make this movie exactly but yet a year ago or less than a year ago This was the video that de niro released I mean he's so blatantly stupid

26:07 He's a punk. He's a dog, he's a pig, he's a con, a b**** artist, a mutt who doesn't know what he's talking about. Doesn't do his homework, doesn't care thinks he is gaming society, doesn't pay taxes He is an idiot Colin Powell said it best. He is national disaster. He is embarrassment to this country It makes me so angry that this country has gotten to this point That this fool, this bozo has wound up where he has He talks how he wants to punch people in the face Well, I'd like to punch him in the face. This is somebody that we want for president? I don't think so! What i care about is the direction of this country and what I'm very very worried about Is that it might go in the wrong direction

26:53 with someone like Donald Trump. Now when I listen to this again, the two things i notice one is it is exactly the same cadence and timbre of voice that he used when he was the government spook in the movie now maybe does that all the time because i have to look at really but this is very very similar so either a he's a moron and forgot all about wag the dog or And this was my kind of my favorite part of Wag the Dog, not so much the video trickery but when they were calling up during the press. The White House spokeshole is doing a daily press briefing and they call him up to say okay have them say this and the guy touches his earpiece briefly you know like the sweaty Shawn version

27:37 And he says whatever they have to say, and then De Niro launches this. He explains it to the PR department. The way you gotta do it is you gotta say look I don't- This has nothing to with the B3 bomber project! Nothing at all! Of course there's no B3 bomber projects. It was launching these false memes... Launching the memes. Maybe that's what he intended to do here? That he was actually in that role trying to do a little bit of Wag the Dog I have no idea what he was up to when he did that. I think it's still up for interpretation, but I like your thought that he is in the same cadence because when he is on talk shows or any place else, he doesn't talk with that...that is definitely a scripted message that he is acting for some reason why was he doing it? And it was extreme! It wasn't like Rosie O'Donnell and even Joy Behar were just going off on Trump

28:33 It was a long-winded, very scripted message. It seems to me it had something good...there's something about it that was very unusual. Well let us do their first summary this. Let's get people up to speed. I want to do a side by side of Rosie O'Donnell and De Niro but maybe that's too much for this early in the show Yeah, might be fake balls are a real business. Hey should we since it's since we're at the beginning of the show We're rested where you know? We're fit how about a little quick trip in the alternate universe transition machine right off to bat You're gonna wear us out right away

CHAPTER 10 / 30 Discussion

Morning Joe Panel Debates the Goldwater Rule

The "Morning Joe" panel discusses Donald Trump's mental stability, with some members suggesting he is a "petulant brat" with physiological disorders. The conversation touches on the Goldwater Rule, which prohibits psychiatrists from diagnosing public figures without a personal examination. The hosts mock the panel's obsession, noting the irony of people who cannot "move off" a subject accusing the President of the same behavior.

morning joe· goldwater rule· barry goldwater· mental health· donald trump

29:22 Hey, we're going to the first universe! First America! We choose God. F*** you It's not good with just black coffee Where does that dog keep coming from? The alternate universe Obviously Two quickies, two clips The first one is regarding a topic we've discussed many times the so-called Goldwater Rule

30:00 And the Goldwater rule stems from Barry Goldwater as a presidential candidate when psychiatrists were saying, oh he's mentally unstable. I'm not exactly sure what they claimed the diagnosis to be but then later after he lost he sued them and so in medical circles certainly psychiatric circles there's the Goldwater rule thou shalt not Diagnose someone on television or unless you have actually seen them and of course you couldn't do there it is. There's one That's my first, of course. That's my second Interesting it's the alternate reality where I'd wear. I realize that isn't that interesting? Mm-hmm So here is the morning Joe's they have quite a panel on and they're discussing Of course president Trump's he said it again

30:53 Mental stability never thought though that the guy that we've known for 10 11 12 years would be that much of a petulant brat I also think it's wow there. We go right off the bat instead of saying petulant child We've we've put one little dose on top of its saying pets and like rats yeah, good. It's good very good for 10, 11, 12 years would be that much of a petulant brat. I also think it's time and i know in the post-goldwater era there is an unwritten rule in the psychiatric community that nobody diagnoses from afar...I just don't think he's well guy we talked about this before how well the guy is off right now mentally any sane rational person wouldn't know if I keep bringing attention to something

31:36 then I'm going to keep churning up attention on something and it is not going to be in my best interest. There's a disorder of interest, there was an article over the weekend about election night that right even after his triumph he was fixated on three day old negative articles they literally couldn't get him off of And that's what this is. I don't know what the disorder is, and I'm not being glib... That regardless of what else has gone on- if he's been pricked in a certain area there is an inability physiologically for him to move off it. That is not a healthy normal well functioning man! Most people are like that tons almost everybody has something they just can't let go off and hold onto This isn't diagnosis for being a nut job

32:24 I digress. Well-functioning man, there's no rational reason why he should be doing this every day. Hold on a second! Stop! Here is your irony you just pointed out These are the guys who are obsessed on something. Exactly! That's how the alternate universe functions. Move off of it, that is not a healthy... They can't move off of it. They can't move off of it. Oh nailed it. Him to move off of it that is not a healthy normal well-functioning man there's no rational reason why he should be doing this every day even if you think he's a cynical horrible human being

33:02 This hurts him. Right, but everything now points to certain disorders and my hair is not on fire But I am NOT a clinician and once again we know... I'm not a doctor What are those two things having common? My hair is not on fire AND I'm not a doctor Clinician Is it the same? Every day even if you think he's a cynical horrible psycho Yes He IS He should be doing this every day, even if you think he's a cynical horrible human being. This hurts him. Right, but everything now points to certain disorders and my hair is not on fire But and I am NOT a clinician And I once again we know doctors don't diagnose There's a he's not well in many ways if anybody was behaving this way at the schoolteachers being this way if your friend was baby This way you'd be concerned yes right Any CEO behave this way they would have been fired by the board

33:59 Are you kidding me? Let me try a couple. By the way, I had one of those clips where they said that How about Ray Lane let's try him. How about anybody how about any guy Any executive at Oracle? How about Steve Ballmer who likes to scream at people Insane nutjob Or Bill Gates who says all it has a number of disparaging remarks to make constantly to people or how about Steve Jobs You're holding your phone wrong Come on Yeah, sure. Okay that's not how it works So these guys are clueless? Yeah almost If a CEO doesn't act that way you go wow How about Jack Welch? How about some of the roughest toughest guys in industry captains of industry Sure they're like that The school teacher is behaving this way if your friend was behaving this way You'd be concerned Right

34:49 If any CEO behaved this way, they would have been fired by the board 60 days ago. Did Hillary Clinton ever apologize for receiving the answers to the debate? Are you kidding me?! Just asking! Swear to God... What do you think he's prompting her to say? I have no idea. I don't watch this show Oh, it's like the best start to my day Apparently it is you love this show and wait for it nobody on the planet care There goes that hammer again Hey Miki there's one person here You can say it

CHAPTER 11 / 30 Discussion

The View Calls for Twenty-Fifth Amendment Removal

Panelists on "The View" express their desire for Donald Trump to be removed from office, specifically mentioning the Twenty-Fifth Amendment. The segment features a chaotic exchange where hosts call for the President to be "dismissed" due to his perceived instability. The podcast hosts mock the pronunciation and lack of understanding regarding the constitutional process displayed by the TV personalities.

the view· 25th amendment· whoopi goldberg· removal from office· impeachment

35:40 I can? The amendment thing. Oh, it's time for article 25. Amendment. This is the fifth amendment. Twenty-fifth amendment let's do it. And the psychiatrist has stepped in... No seriously that there are people who need to really think about that how long did they want this to last She still on the twenty-fifth amendment or article 25 if she calls her which is something different Where did this alternate universe story come from Came from the alternate universe. Now we were talking about North Korea, or at least... The morning shows were? Are we still in the alternate universe? Don't you feel that, have we taken the ride back? We're definitely in- Well I know but I don't know that your changing the subject outside of the universe. No I'm keeping it to North Korea Okay I got North Korea Let me start with my alternate universe from The View My other favorite start to the morning He needs to be held Why doesn't everybody face it he needs to be taken out of office! He needs to be dismissed! Wooo!

36:42 Now it's Kim Jong-myung-nyang. It's Kim Jong-myung-nyang. I love it! Okay, without further ado even though we're in the alternate universe. Yeah i guess you could play this backwards You get clip of the day for that bit Oh thank you so much that is... you were just too kind Kim Jong Young Young Kim Jong Young Young Kim Jong Young Young Kim Jong Young Young Wooo! Kim Jong Young Young Kim Jong Young Young

CHAPTER 12 / 30 Discussion

Rising Star Biography Explores Barack Obama's Early Life

Historian David Garrow's biography, "Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama," details the former President's relationship with openly gay professor Lawrence Goldyn at Occidental College. The book includes a letter where Obama allegedly discussed considering a same-sex relationship before deciding it would be too challenging. The hosts discuss the implications of these revelations and the hypocrisy of political narratives regarding sexual identity and choice.

barack obama· david garrow· rising star· occidental college· lawrence goldyn

37:39 Do you have any Kim I can't get out of my head? I was clipping that yesterday, and uh and I'm walking around going kim jong-yong Every time you hear that it's time to donate tell me about in this sexuality. It's in your DNA There's a new book coming out about President Obama And there's some very interesting little Nugget in here. This is what does it call this book is? Rising star the making of Barack Obama written by historian David Garrow He is a Pulitzer Prize winner he wrote bearing the cross a biography of Martin Luther King jr Of course, he's a regular contributor to The New York Times and woppa woppa woppa woppa woppa And in this very interesting he wrote in his book about

38:31 A relationship that President Obama had in his two years at Occidental College, which we know nothing about. Those records have been sealed. His relationship with openly gay professor Lawrence Golden. Ah yes I know about this. Yeah yeah quote from the book. Golden made a huge impact on Barry Obama notice he's calling him Barry here why um why does no one call him Barry in real life? Why is it all...why only now? Why don't we call them that when he was an office anyway You're asking nobody. Yeah, Golden made a huge impact on Barry Obama as he wrote in the book almost a quarter century later asked about his understanding of gay issues Obama enthusiastically said quote my favorite professor my first year in college is one of the first openly gay people that I knew He was a terrific guy with whom Obama developed quote eight friendship beyond the classroom

39:24 Three years later, Obama wrote something elusively to his first intimate girlfriend that he had thought about and considered gayness but ultimately had decided that a same-sex relationship would be less challenging and demanding than developing one with the opposite sex. Again this is all in the book but there's no doubting that Golan gave 18 year old Barry a vastly more positive uplifting image of gay identity and self confidence then you have known in Honolulu So there's an interview with this author about this particular, well about number of things but about did the president consider gayness and go back on it. Let me rephrase one of the conspiracies was there any time in Barack Obama's life that he experimented outside of the heterosexual lifestyle? I think anyone and everyone no matter what their role in life deserves

40:22 certain basic degree of privacy in that context. So, that's not something that I speculate upon either in the book or in speaking about him prior to Michelle Robinson Barack had three major serious relationships Alex Genevieve both of their names are already on the public record by the way pretty big stripper names right there Genevieve, please but One should not look those Relationships

41:08 as being more important in kind than his... The guy is trying to say yes. Exactly, yeah he blew the guy! I don't even have to fast forward the clip yet but here's the problem if Obama considered gayness which is the quote from the book I'm not making this word up but he decided it would be same-sex relationship will be less challenging Does that now mean that... I think that says it all. How would he know its less challenging unless he did it? I don't care about whether he did or not, here's the issue so apparently is a choice you're not born that way its a choice The president made a choice. For the President definitely was Yeah but he is the leader of dimension B

42:05 where everyone said if you're gay, you're gay. You have no choice in the matter but apparently you do. Well he did. He's a pretty important guy. I don't know if you can generalize from his specific experiences I think you understand the point i'm making. I know what you're trying to make and at this point people try to make it and I think it's a good point to make if you want to make it, I am not a subscriber to either side of that argument. Oh man! I'm not saying that's my belief, I'm just saying you can't sit there and pontificate about how it's a choice... It is not a choice, you were born that way

42:42 and then you make a choice. Yeah, that's... No I agree it's the hypocrisy that you're bitching about Yes! I don't care what he does We all know that Reggie Love was his lover. We all know those kids are not his, but they're Scottie Pippins and Stevie Wonder. We know we can see it. I'm less concerned about that anyway as opposed to my concern that he's a Muslim Yeah And that the head of the CIA, Brennan is also Muslim. I don't mind people being a Muslim in office. I don't like people that are hiding it because why are you hiding this?

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Barack Obama $400,000 Wall Street Healthcare Speech

Barack Obama is criticized for accepting a $400,000 fee for a speech at a healthcare conference hosted by a Wall Street firm. The hosts characterize this as a "quid pro quo" or a delayed payoff for policies enacted during his presidency that benefited insurance companies. They compare the practice to Hillary Clinton's history of high-priced speaking engagements following her time in office.

barack obama· wall street· healthcare conference· quid pro quo· speaking fees

43:28 Are you a subversive Muslim? That's what you're doing by hiding it. If you are openly, well then of course he is... There is political reasons not to brag about being a Muslim if your the President of the United States named Barack Hussein. You have people who go oh I don't know maybe I shouldn't vote for him because these Muslims, I don't like these Muslims but on the other hand He's got to come out and say, look I was a Muslim. I didn't blow up the country or anything. I don't know. Something like that. I just have mixed feelings about it. Well but he you know he's being very quiet right now although he gets a total pass You know this... By being on the yacht? Well no this Wall Street company that is doing this $400,000 speech for do you know what what the setting is for this speech

44:16 I don't know, Bahamas? Healthcare conference. This is his quid pro quo this is the payoff Oh for all the insurance companies yes Big pay off Here's your money Yeah you get it It's not unusual to get Hillary Clinton pioneered this Yeah You get the money later That way you can go testify and say did you get paid for this And you can say with honesty Say I've not been paid a nickel For this opinion I have not been paid a nickel To do this And then you may get some money afterwards as a thank you. Yeah, seems like that's a pretty big thank-you for one speech. It's going to get a lot more thank yous in that $400,000. Definitely. Now we can take a little trip here into fabulous example of dimension A and dimension B in the same place looking at the same information and arguing

CHAPTER 14 / 30 Discussion

The View Panel Argues Over Hillary Clinton's Loss

A heated debate on "The View" features panelists arguing over why Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election. While some point to her failure to visit key states like Wisconsin and Michigan, others blame Russia, the FBI, and "whitelash" or racism. The segment highlights the internal conflict among supporters who struggle to reconcile Clinton's popular vote win with her electoral college defeat.

the view· hillary clinton· 2016 election· whoopi goldberg· joy behar

45:23 And I'm sad to say this happened on The View, but that's just what it is. You got to take it. But it is important because these are women's issues women are getting screwed over. We all want Hillary lost because of men so now we have... So there's the two... I think is it Sonny Hostin who was the Republican? And you're asking me. Yeah, I know crazy. It doesn't matter it'll be very apparent who's who? I found this this entire conversation just fan Tastic from a split universe alternate universe dimension 8 dimension B perspective. Have some reasons as to why she overlooking stuff or this was the most Unimpressed I've been with Hillary Clinton every time I see her do an interview I'm waiting for a moment where she just doesn't blame anyone but herself and acknowledges Why they lost why you can imagine this is getting the other ladies on the view kind of riled up

46:21 The reason why she lost was that her foreign policy at the State Department was a disaster. Her intervention in Libya led to terrorist havens and the infiltration of ISIS My head was going what you're saying this on The View? What?! She lost because she picked up bad vice presidential candidate She didn't do proper groundwork in states like Wisconsin, in states like Michigan, in States like Pennsylvania...she lied to people! She made the decision Don't bring up the lie. Please don't put out lies. About having a server? Don't bring up lying about people, because let's not put lies in because if we're going to compare... But you- She just- Whoopi Goldberg defending Hillary about lying

47:00 She lied she told the email server. She completely lied, but you can't say that according to whoopie No no I was gonna let you finish if you had it, but I that's kind of a Misogynist there go ahead babe did you hear what we said? Go ahead babe yeah? She said go ahead baby I can hear you on other stuff, but the lying I just can't handle. Go ahead, go ahead babe. Did you have... Well I was just... No no I was gonna let you finish if you had to do it. But I tend to agree. I was a little shocked when I saw her say that at first because I think there was a moment after the election when so many of us stopped after

47:43 after were messaging problems. She wasn't on the ground a lot of the people that spoke up. But she won 3 million more votes than Donald Trump did so her message was out there! The FBI was investigating Trump's Russia ties and they since July and they only mentioned that this March yet They mentioned it in October. I voted for her, I'm Hillary Clinton supporter But what i'm saying is that was disappointed by the interview because to me at this moment What she needed to say was we missed a mark in a lot of ways there were things We didn't hear

48:39 And it shows me in this interview she might still not be, she might still be missing. I don't know that she missed the mark. She also lost the election because the election isn't run by the popular vote it's run by the electoral college and she is a seasoned politician and she should know that those states that she skipped out on those states that she didn't go to Oh she knows that! Come on! That cost her the election! Really? Joy Behar, oh she knows that come on well she knew maybe she would have gone She should know that those states that she skipped out on Those states that she didn't go too That cost her the election. Really? She sounds like she did it because that's what cost her the election. There were people in the center of the country who felt ignored!

49:17 FBI director Comey, what cost her the election in my humble opinion is Russia's hacking and what cost her the election is if you look at the stats people this was I agree with white Van Jones in a sense. This was a whitelash there's been studies so wait a minute we're blaming it on men were blamed on white people who voted for Obama? She's going to make that point here actually I agree with Van Jones in a sense. This was a white lash There's there been studies 20% of people voted because of racism this is great! I need to see this study

49:58 So people said, hmm racism. I can't vote for her because she's white unlike the other guy who is also white. Yeah this is dimension B like what? Studies 20% of people voted because of racism and I think after After No way that this woman was going to win twice the country elected a black president twice because he was a good candidate She was not a good candidate My opinion she would have made a great president. She was not a great candidate I agree with you, but she would have been a great president He was an interesting

50:38 You know what, let's face it. Putin wanted to make America great again. Let's tell the truth. She was the most qualified candidate for president that we've ever had! Oh really? That old bromide. Yeah, she was more qualified than Dwight D Eisenhower and her head is gone. Oh there's a good spot to break let's stop this right now and discuss what we just has been very funny as usual very well produced It amazes me how much first of all how much work he does on these things or I just tried to do these things it's extremely difficult You you work for hours and hours, and you end up spent. It's almost like video editing where you spend 10 hours to get one hour Also, I get pretty sick of us when doing it

CHAPTER 15 / 30 Discussion

Rob Reiner and Carl Reiner on Tavis Smiley

Rob and Carl Reiner appear on Tavis Smiley's PBS show to criticize Donald Trump's leadership, calling him "mentally unstable" and a "pathological liar." They contrast Trump with Barack Obama, whom they describe as the "smartest president" in recent history. The discussion also touches on the legitimacy of the Supreme Court and the perceived racism behind the delegitimization of the Obama presidency.

rob reiner· carl reiner· tavis smiley· pbs· barack obama

53:02 Tavis Smiley over there in the PBS he had the Reiners on both Rob and Carl it's a double trouble two barrels and you want to hear some dimension B yeah oh yeah that's all dimension be so what do you make of the art or the of the deal that he did last week on health care. Beautiful, huh? Smooth as glass! Just worked out perfectly didn't it? He's working very hard now to take away everything from poor people so that rich people can get a tax break yeah That's very good This is the most scary time in our country in terms of leadership we have a person who has

53:44 clearly mentally unstable, who has no understanding of government or policy. Has no desire to know about it is an egomaniac and is a pathological liar. Bingo boom shakalaka! I mean its really scary what's happening in this country. And to go from having the smartest president we've had since way back to this guy is like crazy. It's nuts I mean, I feel so sorry Obama! I can't believe how he must feel today but the minute they start you know putting somebody like Judge Gorsuch...I'm not saying he's not qualified i'm not saying he's not a great jurist or whatever I don't agree with him on a lot of things whenever someone says that and I hear this a lot well I don't agree with him on a lot of things

54:32 I tend to say, like what? Like what. But that's not right! That a president should have that right. That's exactly it. By the way Smiley should've done that right there. She'd done that right there yeah. What don't you agree with him on? Yeah well a lot of things. Call him out A lot of things. A great jurist or whatever...I don't agree with them on a lot of things But that's not what even left a breath pause smiley could have come in easily right very easily should have that right who could be illegitimate and also it could be doing Have done things that are illegal and that on top of the Congress who wouldn't give the last guy hearing. Well, that's another conversation altogether yeah, and that to me is all about

55:14 I hate to say it, it's all about Obama not wanting to give him anything. And we were talking about this before we came on the air This is like... Which means that wasn't supposed to be on the air but okay Before we came on the air This is like all of these feelings that have been submerged for such a long time in this country Have been unleashed In terms of racism And all of the feelings that they had about not feeling Obama was legitimate, because he wasn't born in America. All of that is about delegitimizing an African American person and everything that's followed from that we're not going to let him have anything when I'll let them have we won't let him out He's not legitimate president! And so that's what it has done and unfortunately they're continuing. And how come that wasn't resolved when Romney ran? Yeah

56:08 Romney was white? Yeah, well he wasn't a racist. I'm sorry, racist we wouldn't say that anymore He wasn't racist only Trump is racist. Well you know that Don't pretend you don't. Yeah, I'm sorry i missed that. No no i'm sorry glad i missed it yeah you should be glad uh you know smiley has put himself in a kind of a bind because he can't really be anything other than anti-trump He has to be on board yeah? Yeah because he's a hollywood celebrity pretty much um why didn't go do larry king Because he's you know he just but he's just a hardline democrat from the get-go yes

CHAPTER 16 / 30 Discussion

Social Justice Warriors and Crowdfunding Lifestyle

Adam Curry describes his experiences on the Mastodon social network, where he has been labeled a "serial abuser" by social justice warriors. He examines the profiles of his detractors, noting a trend of millennials using GoFundMe and Patreon to fund their lifestyles while pursuing "indie game" or "haiku" careers. One specific example involves a couple seeking funds for car payments and medical bills after the husband quit his job to make games.

mastodon· social justice warriors· gofundme· crowdfunding· indie games

56:51 Is Roosevelt running for a fifth term? Vote him in. I've noticed, and of course a lot of this has to do with my work within the noagendasocial.com, the mastodon open source federated social network of gooeyness... Open-sore! I am seeing so many of, and i'll just call them that all of these people who do this are social justice warriors. I bump into them because I am being accused of being a consistent abuser of other people and our domain there is being blocked by some federated instances

57:53 Because they feel that you know, but I'm an abuser and I haven't even been on the thing for like three days. What have you done? I don't know but the admin is abusive so they block the whole... What have you done?! Nothing! I don't know what they're talking about no one's asked me I've never seen these people on a network before But now I see screenshots of them talking about me as I'm consistent abuser It's not true. I've nothing So all of these social justice warriors who go complaining to their administrators to block no agenda social have crowdfunding. Little GoFundMes or... Oh, they get little things just to put up a server? No! Not for servers, for their lives John This is not so much about the Mastodon social network this is about these social justice warriors on the system

58:50 And we get a unique look into their lives as all of them in their little profile bio have a link. You're talking about people that are looking for some extra cash through GoFundMe and... Yeah, not for some extra cash John they're looking this is their lifestyle. KinCup.com This is their lifestyle let me give you an example okay this is from Dell's Doodles And she's one of these people who has called me a serial abuser and I just felt, well look she has a GoFundMe campaign. Let's see what it says. Jacko... Have you called her out? No! You gotta get some examples of this abuse if they're gonna accuse you like this. But I said, apparently, me asking what is going on it's considered abuse.

59:39 Yes, I said well what's going on? And no not aware. Oh and then they block me and then I go to another...I log in somewhere else say hey you blocked me but I want know what the abuse is and they blocked me again and now that's being called the abuse But this happened three weeks ago. I mean, I don't know why anyway so all of these kids have little crowdfunding things So here is one of these a millennial. I'm assuming her gender Jacko quit work last August when we had an advanced royalty payment through from my book which gave us enough money to live off of for five months. Time Jacko planned to spend working on developing his indie game studio, to make video games full-time!

1:00:24 Unfortunately, at the same time he became ill. When I eventually managed to convince him to get checked out, he was at the point of fainting when he stood up. It turns out that he had a bleeding stomach ulcer and his blood count had dropped significantly! The doctor warned him to get a transfusion immediately but he declined and went for taking strong iron supplements instead." It's stopped bleeding now but anyone who has had a knee Anemia knows how long it takes to recover from even a little bit of anemia and his was terrible. His blood levels are climbing but he hasn't had the energy needed to work full-time so we're behind on our plans He started freelancing for the company he left last year on a part time basis, but were still struggling I've put this off as long as i can But we really need help Jacko still cant work fast enough on his game projects To get stuff out there for sale to support us

1:01:14 We're close to being okay, but when you're poor the world works against you. Missed payments mean more bank fees bouncing fees people nagging you for money etc Our car is close to being paid off and if we can clear that monthly payment every month will be in much more stable place financially There's only five more payments to go on it But the extra monthly payment is just tipping us over the limit every month on our reduced income so we can clear that and not have to make that payment every month, it'd be a huge help. I hate asking! I know so many people who are struggling right now and i wish we were in the position where we could help and not ask for it but such is life if you can help us there are no words for how grateful we'd be So these losers think that their future is in indie game companies and writing haikus on Patreon this is their business model We've identified this...

1:02:10 Kids who think that this is how life works. Well, we're you know just ask for help First of all I'm gonna excoriate you For being so mean I can see why they don't like you Because maybe this is the new business model Maybe this is the future You don't know that? I do! This is what I am identifying They're creating this future of loserdom. They will have no life, no future. Indie game company! Haiku writer? Are you kidding me?! Oh he can't get his indie game company off the ground... How about a job? A real job? You know? Where are they located first of all? These two doesn't say here I don't know that makes a huge difference

1:03:06 And how do we know that any of this is true? Is it possible you could dream become a fictitious character doing this? Of course, of course. You could admit but I don't think so. I think you saw the picture and the kids on in UT they don't even put up patreons anymore just put signs in the window saying We're broke here give us money to our PayPal near the PayPal address and they put on their window Yes, I keep forgetting to put that in the newsletter but i gotta put that in. Yeah yes why cut out the middle man? I don't know so we made a huge mistake We are guilty of huge cultural appropriation and feel extremely bad about it You probably feel worse about than I do. We appropriated Mexican culture

CHAPTER 17 / 30 Discussion

Cultural Appropriation and Cinco de Mayo Controversy

The hosts discuss the history of Cinco de Mayo and the Battle of Puebla, arguing that Americans have a historical reason to celebrate the defeat of the French. They play a clip of a young man being harassed by social justice activists for wearing a poncho, with the activists accusing him of "perpetuating stereotypes." The segment critiques the modern sensitivity regarding cultural appropriation.

cinco de mayo· cultural appropriation· battle of puebla· social justice· mexico

1:03:56 by celebrating Cinco de Mayo with money, no less. I mean this is really... What is actually what is Cinco de Mayo? Why did the Mexicans celebrate it? Cinco de Mayo was the Battle of Puebla which was the first time that Mexican army beat back the French Army which was planted in Mexico to take over southern parts of United States if you want to really look at from an old conspiracy The British were going to get top half of the United States and the French were going to get bottom half of the United States which they used to own And I had big pieces of, and that was the idea because it was assumed by the Europeans that the United States would be split in half permanently. And they could easily be overtaken by the influences of the French and the British. And they could also get the gold in California which is what they were after. Oh okay this is good! In other words we as Americans have plenty reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo whether its a Mexican celebration or not?

1:04:51 We probably have more reason because they're French. We saved our ass! Well, we didn't really save anybody's ass but they did a good job of winning this one battle. Listen if it weren't like that Mimi might have armpit hair come on there you go it's possible well uh you sir because you know the history would be allowed to wear a colorful poncho on San Codomio celebration. However, if you're just some crazy white dude roaming around the streets having a good time like we do with St Patrick's Day... I'm not Irish but green beer! We drink beer, we puke green, you know the Chicago River it's all cultural appropriation

1:05:33 As witness to social justice warriors attack a young man who's quite calm actually. Who is really like, what is going on here? He's wearing a poncho in Santa Maya celebrating in the streets like everybody else but no! My name is Michael I am not making a racial statement I'm celebrating a holiday and having fun. I'll say it to the camera everyone I love every person, every color no matter what they are. I hope we can agree to disagree. Why? I'm being peaceful, I'm not offending anybody so whatever. This stuff actually affects people's lives and i don't think you understand this.

1:06:23 perpetuating the stereotype. It's about you as a man, right? A white man who has the most privilege in this whole fucking country knowing what is happening in his country right now. Okay so how is this celebrating? How is it celebrating? No! Do you even know what the holiday means? Can you tell me the history behind Sinkhole? That is not celebrating! You get the idea. It's just insane. Is great. Atlas Drug by Ayn Rand But it's spreading, John. It is spreading and very bad. It is not just America I'm not sure about the laws in Candanavia for suing for distress and damages My guess is that its probably ensconced and shrine somewhere

CHAPTER 18 / 30 Discussion

Jordan Peterson and the Canadian Pronoun Legislation

Professor Jordan Peterson debates a transgender professor on CBC regarding the use of alternate pronouns and proposed Canadian legislation. Peterson argues that the government should not have the power to compel specific speech or artificial linguistic constructions. He frames the issue as an imposition on freedom of speech, while his opponent claims Peterson's refusal to use preferred pronouns causes "real harm" to the transgender community.

jordan peterson· bill c-16· canada· pronouns· freedom of speech

1:07:14 We have a big brouhaha at the university up there in Canada, where the president of the university is saying I'm not going to use your stupid ass pronouns for a minute. I thought you had become provost or something and so on this show, this is CBC they have the president of the university and a transgendered non-binary professor from the same university. I pulled a little snippet because it's just interesting Professor Peterson, let's begin with you Why are you against the use of alternate pronouns? I'm against the use of legislation to determine what words that myself and other people are required to utter But would you use alternate pronouns if a student asked you too

1:08:01 I think i've made my position on that clear already. Well, perhaps not to our audience at home who are just being introduced to this would you use alternate pronouns? No And why not ? Because I don't believe that other people have the right to determine what language I use especially when it's backed by punitive legislation And when the words that are being required are the constructions, they're artificial constructions of people I regard as radical ideologues whose viewpoint I do not share. Well we have a graphic to show our audience at home just some of the pronouns... Bring up the graphic! ...being used or asked to be used as alternates among them you see here Z or zim, Z or hear, Z or zeer also hey

1:08:45 Who can keep up with this? I like hey. Hey! But, I think he misread it but he said listen to the other guy. Here Z or zeer also hay or a rather and Oh A I thought hey I like that Hey! Per so just some of the alternate pronouns there uh professor Pete when you're here Notice notice alternate pronouns it's already bizarrely hmmm Z or zeer also hay or a rather and per so just some of the alternate pronouns there at professor pete when you hear professor peterson saying that this is oppressive how do you respond to that uh... well uh... the peterson drama has done real harm to real people on campus he's made it harder to be transgender or non-binary um i know this from personal experience I'm Non binary and transgender and I know how its felt to be on the UofT campus for the last month and also make it harder

1:09:42 Oh, because apparently it's quite a burden. Hold on a second! That one guy won't say G or Z or A or whatever these other words are? Yes And so now it makes it more difficult for that person to become what he or she is Support my Patreon Yes. How? How does it make it more difficult for them because it's triggering, it is emotional distress... I don't want to hear an answer from personal experience and non-binary and transgender and I know how its felt to be on the U of T campus for the last month And also know from private communications with other affected people you know in New Zealand where I grew up

1:10:21 academics have a statutory role enshrined in the Education Act to be a critic and conscience of society. So I think that's an idea worth exporting to Canada, so I'd like to give Peterson about a B plus for his critic role recently and F for the conscience part. A student once said to me when I finally obtained tenure now professor that now you have obtained superpowers you must agree to use them for good for peace and justice. So I invite Peterson to start doing more of that." Well, Professor Peterson those... Superpowers? I mean this is Guy High?! You only get superpowers if you have Tourette's my friend not if you're transgendered non-binary. "...obtain super powers you must agree to use them for good! For peace and justice so I invite Peterson to start doing

1:11:11 start doing more of that. Well, Professor Peterson those who are asking for this alternate use of pronouns they are saying it boils down to respecting their human rights how do you respond to that? I don't think it boils down to respecting their human rights. I think that its an imposition on freedom of speech thats being implemented at a legislative level I also think that if there was a naturally evolving solution to the linguistic problem that's being posed by a small fraction of the transgender community, people would have already adopted it. We've never had a situation in the usage of English before that required legislation to produce transformation in the manner which people spoke

1:11:52 has a very dangerous precedent. So it's one thing to tell people what they can't say, so for example we have legislation making it illegal to do such things as deny the Holocaust. It's a completely different thing to demand that people use certain words when they're formulating their own ideas This is... Wait, are you telling me Canada's gonna put some legislation through that requires you say G or you have to ask somebody what their pronoun is by law? That is the idea. So I say the right pronoun instead of making a mistake seeing some guy with a long beard and hair and calling him a he when it should be called something else Is that what your saying to me? That is the idea yes Great Yeah thats the idea And observation

CHAPTER 19 / 30 Discussion

Feminization of the West and Workplace Flirting

The hosts discuss the "feminization of the Western male" and the changing dynamics of workplace culture, where flirting is increasingly discouraged. They briefly revisit the history of the suffragette movement, noting that early voting rights were tied to land ownership rather than just gender. The conversation concludes with a reflection on how the "No Agenda" show's direct support model allows them to speak freely without fear of being fired.

feminization· workplace culture· suffragette movement· social justice· gender roles

1:12:38 The social justice warrior only comes in female form. Then yes, I'm assuming a lot of stuff Do you I have yet to see a transgendered woman from female to male? Who is a social justice warrior the other way around it's everybody is feminine who was a social justice warrior and this is so now we're down to a war on men and If you're not sensitive, if you... A feminization of the Western male. Yes and well that's that makes it easier for the yeah And I understand. For takeover? yes i understand that women have feel they've gotten a raw deal. I would like to point out though that if you say this started maybe with the suffragette movement in America. I only learned recently that the suffragette movement worked this way

1:13:31 The only people who could vote at the time were landowners. So there were a lot of men who could not vote either at the time, that's not the way this story is told anymore and the suffragettes came in and they said we don't care if we own land or not women should be allowed to vote And they got what they got their wish but it was not because women weren't allowed It was people had no landownership were allowed to vote Did you know that part of the story? You know, if I did, I forgot it. And have to go back and revisit." So those are the original social justice warriors and it's a very powerful movement women hold power in general women I think hold power power but it will continue until...I think we're all gonna wake up one day and I hope you get your wish because you're going see its not going turn out exactly the way you thought No flirting in the workplace! We'll have no flirting in the workplace

1:14:27 But it has come to the point where, not on this program but in real life I feel caged. Yeah, I don't feel caged here. This is a safe space because the only reason this is safe space and you don't feel cage There's only one reason and one reason only it's because our support is direct Yes Support our page we were if we were working for a bigger organization I said this before I say too often I probably beat it up beating into death yeah Which is that? We had been we had been fired over no but probably from this show today at least twice yep

CHAPTER 20 / 30 Discussion

Samantha Bee and the Smug Liberal Media Problem

Late-night host Samantha Bee is confronted with a New York Times op-ed that identifies her as the face of the "smug liberal" problem contributing to political polarization. In an interview, Bee laughs off the criticism but admits she makes her show specifically for people who already agree with her. The hosts analyze her reaction, suggesting her dismissive attitude and "vocal fry" are signs of a career in decline.

samantha bee· new york times· smug liberals· late night comedy· tbs

1:15:05 and especially becoming a hate show. We lost all our advertisers, it'd be gone. There's one final clip I have here which I love this a lot and again, a video that needs to be seen to see the hurt in this woman's face. Hurt and yeah just hurt that she is partially being blamed for this loss. And she was blamed in an op-ed in The New York Times And actually she's become the Xerox of the problem. The New York Times editorial pretty much said, you know, the smug liberal media was a big part of the problem and specifically named it the Samantha Bee Problem which must hurt her to no end

1:15:59 Yes, I would think so because she takes us very seriously and so she had a comic. She takes it very seriously if she was Yeah, well, she's very butthurt by this Did you? Flattery I didn't know that there was the same Anthony problem But let me read part of it to you the Democratic Party's problem in the age of Trump The laughing I know this because I've been in the same situation where You know, you're getting blamed for something and you know it's kind of your fault. And they just laugh it off. Isn't really Jimmy Fallon who you had criticized and others have criticized for being too soft on Trump? It's probably Samantha Bee not be alone Of course but the entire phenomenon that she embodies the rapid colonization of new cultural territory by a descendant social liberalism first what your response in second of all how does it feel to me? You know this is the face of the problem Brother good catch

1:16:53 Yeah, she really is sad about this. That's great. First what your response and second of all how does it feel to be you know the face of the problem? You know Lisa, can you stop for a second? If she... yeah you're absolutely dead on on this analysis and that laugh is the indicator. She should actually be mad about it if she was there she would take it as that's bullcrap! I'm a comic and then she should have gone aggressive, but no she did that laugh which indicates Oh my god. I yeah, I am the problem She's taking it very seriously There's no way if that was John say was let's move people around on this chessboard and make Jon Stewart the guy yeah

1:17:38 Now, Jon Stewart if he was like with the Jon Stewart problem and it was like the same situation let's say. He'd go right after the guy. He'd go after The New York Times and say this is nonsense. He'd use his comic foil I'm just a comedian you know? I can't even make fun of anybody. It would end right there. She is...this is going to affect her career. Yes in fact if you and I were watching this interview and we were running what is it TBS that she's on? TBS yeah, I think it is GPS something like that one of them We would have fired her after this interview and you'll hear why you know the face of the problem It's me. It's not racism. It's just me no you know what oh wait for all we

1:18:25 I'll wait for all that evidence to roll in and then i'll make up my mind after that. Oh, because you know it's clearly unproven this is just the New York Times... oh wait a minute that's my bible. Ugh, I'm gonna brain freeze! So just because there was no backup? You know its one persons opinion Yes, that's what op-eds are. One person's opinion only this one is in the New York Times darling. But wonderful. Let me ask you a question does he have a larger and you've addressed this on your show so remove yourself from it does he have a point about smug liberals I'm not talking about you but if there is a smug liberal brother?

1:19:06 That is something that I can't really, I mean...I just can't take responsibility for the way the election turned out. I just absolutely don't! Is there a smuggler problem? You told her not to go to Wisconsin. I guess you know..I don't think there is like I do the show for me and people like me And I don't really care how the rest of the world sees it, quite frankly. Oh okay well uh we're gonna have to fire you because you care about the advertisers and the ratings if you say you're just doing this show for you why didn't you go do a podcast? Like i do the show for me and people like me...and I don't really care how the rest of the world sees it quite frankly This is pretty much the definition of sanctimoniously smug right there!

1:19:48 Holy smug. Were you smug? No, I'm not smug. Self-defined smug. Yeah it was perfect excellent job. What do you think? Was that... That's what she said i don't care what you think! I don't care what you think for myself. I'd do the show for myself and people like me there's a very small group You know I don't I don't think there is like I do the show for me and for people like me and I don't really care how the rest of the world sees it quite frankly that's great we put that we make a show for ourselves we put it out in the world We birth it. Now, I've heard this exact sentence so many times in my career. This is what someone says when they're about to get canceled

1:20:27 We birth it, we put it out there for the universe to see. Yeah what you're saying is you think you have an outstanding product that no one wants to watch! We birth it Have you not heard this? This is something similar like well... I haven't heard of it for a while but yeah.. We're doing the best we can and just putting it out there into the universe let everyone see how awesome we are That's great. We make a show for ourselves, we put it out in the world, we give-we birth it And then the world receives it however they want to receive it. Welcome back to Friday for- Now she goes into vocal fry! Yeah, yeah... She reminded me of uh... Oh and this one time at band camp I stuck a flute in my pussy. It reminds me a little bit of her Of the band camp girl A little bit Once there was a world full of sovereign states Till amygdalas expanded All new orders started Wait

CHAPTER 21 / 30 Discussion

Jeremy Scahill and the Fascism Debate

Journalist Jeremy Scahill states on PBS that he refuses to debate "fascists" or participate in platforms that normalize the Trump administration's alleged hatred. Scahill claims the President is normalizing the "extermination of black people and Jews," a statement the hosts find extreme and "off the rails." The discussion critiques Scahill's view that certain people do not have the right to speak on television despite the First Amendment.

jeremy scahill· fascism· trump white house· first amendment· the intercept

1:21:22 Oh no. The world began to war again, the middle class is poor again Well television sold the myths of climate conscious communists From Arab Spring to caliphates To Mockingbird and Watergate It all started with the big mink Everybody found the fix when money entered politics it all started with the big mink We need some new memes that uh yes I think there's a desperate attempt now that we saw the upgrade, which Scott Adams called the upgrade. Then I gladly copied from Hitler to incompetent. That was a good upgrade I mean that's you get that at American Airlines, you're happy and you're almost in the front of the plane So there is a concerted effort by certain personnel to bring it back to white supremacy hating blacks hating Jews I think Jews is the way to go now Let's start with Jeremy Skyle scale sky Hill who I liked a lot

1:22:24 You know, he did some pretty interesting documentaries. He was now he was a part early on of the 250 million dollar word WordPress blog from Pierre Drive my car media. I believe he's still there. I thought he left. No, didn't leave in a huff? I'm pretty sure he did. Ty Aby left in a huff. OK, but we'll have to check on him anyway. It was on PBS. talking about the president and you know just tying in all these memes to try and I think bring it back to that. As a fundamental principle, I don't believe that we should be debating fascists people that are openly advocating violence against undocumented immigrants or publicly shaming private citizens who are transgender Have you seen any of this taking place at the Trump White House?

1:23:14 openly shaming transgender people? Well, I thought he was talking historically about some... maybe somebody in the 30s. Oh yeah maybe not. Uh, i'll debate anyone anywhere but I won't debate a fascist! I will resist a fascist! Well you're a dick If there truly was a fascist, that's how you're gonna resist? I'm not gonna talk to you. I'm gonna resist but i won't talk to you. I'm going to stand here with my arms folded and I'm not gonna talk now. I will protest... I'm gonna resist but I wont' talk to you. ...made a fascist. I will resist the fascists. I will protest the fascists But that's not like where there is some exchange of ideas That we are..that the first amendment necessitates we engage in These are people who when were talking about fascists Who want extermination of black people of the extermination of jews

1:23:59 They are openly... Yes, this is the Trump White House. So he's implying that the Trump administration presidency wants to exterminate blacks? And Jews not just blacks and Jews come on! We need some Jews in there. But resist we must! ...of Jews they are openly advocating a form of hatred that is vilified in history and somehow being normalized now by the President of United States What? This is a serious journalist, this guy too. He's off the rails! Yes sir That is vilified in history and somehow being normalized now by the President of the United States I won't participate on any platform where someone is acting as though well there's the fascist point-of-view and then there's Jeremy's point-of-view that's not a debate to me. He's not being invited to anything anymore

1:24:51 Like, hey you're not invited anymore so you should complain really loudly that you won't do it anyway. ...a conservative Republican in Congress... I didn't want to go to your stupid birthday party anyway! Everyone has a right to free speech, I certainly agree with that but they don't have the right to speak on television Oh? Is that in the Constitution? You have a right to free speech? Well there's one more They don't have a right to be invited on the programs and no they don't have it No, you can't be in the U.S.. No right to being but on the programs enough the programs You know I support real-time doing whatever they believe is right? I'm just not gonna participate in it and um you know And I got a lot of heat for that But you know and I may never end up out on that show again Yeah That's that's the problem John you nailed it that sees been uninvited from whatever

1:25:36 I can go to sleep at night knowing that i had nothing to do with giving any attention to a fascist. I can go to sleep at night knowing that I have no job. I didn't want to do it anyway! Fake news, and he repeated fake... You are fake news This is fake news You are fake news Hey hey hey! You read the FAKE NEWS So here is the report, and there was a pool guy although it might have been CNN who was doing a pool during the big celebration there in Pyongyang and we're seeing all of these what I- what I deem to be mainly just empty metal tubes. I don't know what's in there! I don't know if this is a new sophisticated rocket? I have no idea It looks like a bunch of sheet metal with rivets

CHAPTER 22 / 30 Discussion

North Korean Missile Misfire and Military Parade

Media reports from Pyongyang describe a "defiant misfire" of a North Korean missile that exploded shortly after launch. During a massive military parade, North Korea displayed what appeared to be new intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and solid-fuel technology. The hosts question the authenticity of the weapons shown, suggesting the tubes might be empty or made of wood, while noting the "sweetened" audio used in news broadcasts.

pyongyang· missile test· military parade· ben tracy· icbm

1:26:28 Here's the report. To begin with breaking news from North Korea, a US military official confirms North Korea attempted to launch a missile off its east coast Sunday morning local time but the missile blew up almost immediately The type of missile is still being assessed The defiant misfire follows another show of force Saturday Now here they've just said something and not even with a source in which the unselected... Hold on say stop Did you hear what she said? She said a defiant misfire. No, I didn't hear that damn What is it defiant to misfire it means that the rocket did not want to do it

1:27:05 I'm not firing! To begin with breaking news from North Korea, a US military official confirms North Korea attempted to launch a missile off its east coast Sunday morning local time but the missile blew up almost immediately. The type of missile is still being assessed the defiant misfire follows another shot- That is a very weird sentence, I agree with you You could say the defiant missile because literally the missiles do not want to be fired but the defiant...misfire? Well, obviously she's remixing things up. The defiant part is that they were told not to do anything and they did something. And so that was the defiant part but then it was a misfire. Yes. So she puts the two together and you get this stupid phrase, defiance misfire, that means nothing! Yeah, you know what? This is the Easter crew

1:27:54 The Easter crew. It's very it's very only ones that work on Easter Yes, it's very hard to get anything from from corporate media during Easter or any other vacation because they're gone No for Saturday in which the isolated communist nation put ballistic missiles on parade including some we haven't seen before More now from Ben Tracy inside the North Korean capital side Yang When it comes to military parades, North Korea certainly knows how to put on a show. Blue-stepping soldiers rolling tanks and rocket launchers It's an elaborate scene involving hundreds of thousands of people that would be the envy of any Super Bowl halftime show

1:28:36 Anytime North Korea has one of these military parades, U.S. military experts closely examine what they're parading down the street They're looking for signs that North Korea is closer to developing a long-range nuclear missile that can reach the United States And the signs were troubling For the first time, North Korea displayed new long range ballistic missiles That can be launched from both land and sea They are believed to be the same missiles successfully tested in February Hold on a second. I just want to hear if that's the same sound effect of the missile they were using for the Tomahawks, it sounds a lot like it Let's just do a comparison here That's annoying let's see It's exactly the same John They're sweetening the audio Listen These guys They never end here One more God damnit

1:29:34 Get the fire here we go time North Korea displayed new long-range ballistic missiles that can be launched from both land and sea No, it's a little bit are believed to be the same missile successfully tested in February And use solid fuel and are hard to detect before launch And South Korea's military believes these large missiles at the end of the parade are a new type of intercontinental ballistic missile, that North did not previously possess. In his speech at the parade, high-ranking North Korean officials accused the Trump administration of threatening North Korea and said if attacked they will respond with all out war including nuclear weapons

1:30:17 That confidence is shared by many here in Pyongyang. When you see all of the military troops and all of the weapons go by, what does that mean to you? He said it made me feel North Korea is strong enough to defeat any enemy even the United States. North Korea still says it wants peace and not war but if it comes to war they're ready to fight Yeah, so I'm gonna come on a short now unnamed sources are named sources. We have no video of this thing just rolling by. I've seen these big tubes before yeah those tubes look like they could be made out of wood. I think they went to meet logs it's Lincoln logs they could be who knows and the guy says oh this is new we've never seen this blog before and we're going to use it on you

CHAPTER 23 / 30 Discussion

Potential for Conflict on the Korean Peninsula

Correspondents and military officials discuss the possibility of a U.S. preemptive strike against North Korea and the catastrophic consequences for Seoul. North Korean officials warn that they will use nuclear weapons if they feel a real threat of attack from the United States. Meanwhile, China urges both sides to stop threatening each other, stating there would be "no winners" in a war on the peninsula.

preemptive strike· seoul· jim mattis· china· nuclear test

1:31:11 You know, this whole thing is just a show. But there's some good reporting I got to a couple of clips here. I got the North Korea which one do you want me to talk about? The situation on the Korean peninsula is being described as a Tinder box. Gunter Cannavo was a longtime DW correspondent in the region he has been analyzing this conflict for decades thank you for being with us this evening Pyongyang has threatened to strike back before. In your assessment, is it different this time? No, not really different. It's a normal kind of procedure that any action provokes or has a reaction from North Korea and this time maybe the vocabulary is a little bit stricter or stronger but that simply because also President Trump is using strong words He's a fan of strong language But if the US really resorted to a preemptive strike what would that mean for the region?

1:32:12 Well, any war means catastrophe and in case President Trump would take some military action. First of all all the let's say possibilities he has are limited in scope because if it is real war it would be catastrophe just to hold peninsula and the region would be inflamed so hopefully he does not take any military reaction Or if he thinks he can have some, let's say warning action just like in Syria that is also of big danger because he would draw in then China. That was the whole point to drawing China? Yeah but the problem is this is Seoul Korea was like 10 feet from the border with North Korea and they couldn't get

1:33:04 in there fast enough before the North Koreans just blow it to smithereens with an A-bomb. Now here's a report that was kind of interesting, this was CBS, I think yours was CBS too but it was a different report This is the North Korea 2017 one and North Korea 2017 two And the 2 is the one thats most interesting of these two clips because this is David Martin who works out at the Pentagon he said that older guy who looks like... If you're going to describe me, he'd look like not only a CIA guy but a CIA supervisor. Who's looking for TPS reports? He's looking for TPS reports but he always has... To me when he comes on I listen to him with it in mind that I'm listening

1:33:52 the official story. Let's play one first and then we go to two. Korea, a major holiday in the reclusive communist nation, the anniversary of the birth of founder Kim Il-sung and there is concern around the world that his grandson dictator Kim Jong Un will use the occasion to flex his military muscle and conduct another nuclear test in defiance of the US Ben Tracy's in the North Korean capital Pyongyang. And there is your defiance word again. North Korea has already staged four ballistic missile tests this year and despite warnings from the US and China, North Korea's vice foreign minister Han Song-ryeol says his country will conduct another nuclear test its sixth overall

1:34:41 Do you plan to conduct that test in the coming days? The nuclear test will take place at a time, at a place that the Supreme Leadership deems necessary. He accuses the Trump administration of provoking a military conflict by sending a Navy strike force to the Korean Peninsula and continuing U.S. military exercises in South Korea. Do you believe the United States wants to attack North Korea? If the U.S comes up with a dangerous military option, then the first card is in our hands We'll deal with it with our preemptive strike This means war So you're saying if you feel that North Korea's going to be attacked You will use nuclear weapons? Of course China which is North Korea's main ally and trading partner said today that there would be no winners in a war And both sides should stop threatening each other

1:35:36 North Korea says they are ready for both war and peace, and their vice minister suddenly spoke English to make his point clear. The Vice Minister did stress that North Korea would not launch a pre-emptive strike unless it felt a real threat of attack from the United States. Tomorrow is a major holiday here in North Korea and there is some concern that the country might use the opportunity to launch new missiles or conduct nuclear tests. So what do you think, just presuming for a moment that this is tactically smart... What do you think the game plan with North Korea? The game plan from whose perspective? Trump. El Presidente

CHAPTER 24 / 30 Discussion

U.S. Military Options and Cyber Attack Threats

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis emphasizes diplomatic efforts while the U.S. Air Force conducts "elephant walks" with F-15s in Japan as a show of force. Military experts suggest that if North Korea launches an ICBM toward the U.S., the response might involve a cyber attack rather than immediate kinetic warfare. There are also concerns regarding North Korean or Iranian threats to the U.S. electric grid via atmospheric nuclear blasts.

kadena air base· f-15· jim mattis· cyber attack· electric grid

1:36:27 Well, he definitely is not going to do anything because Mattis of all people they showed him back and off as much as possible because North Korea has the upper hand. Because 20 million people in Seoul, Korea and our military base would just it would be a mess. And they could do it and they would do it again. They keep preparing for you, but it seems to me as we go back and we've talked about this for years It seems as if the North Koreans are just kind of playing different kinds of games because they the guy said if The reporter that CBS report that's actually in Pyongyang which to me was a breakthrough I never saw this guy roaming around before But he's over there and he speaks Korean. And so he's the go-to guy now He says they're prepared for peace

1:37:17 Well, that's what Donna has told us. I mean we've heard that that's all they want. They just want armistice. Yes but they have this face thing going on where they would like to have a meetup Well, they should get our meetup.org and organize it properly I think they should put it in meetup.org and maybe something will happen They could do it at the Zephyr Museum It would be beautiful Yes which we'll talk about later Which I promised last time We never did So now let's listen to David Martin who will give us the current status of things as far as I'm concerned How might the US respond to another North Korean test? David Martin is at The Pentagon

1:37:57 The Air Force calls it an elephant walk. 22 F-15s armed and ready to scramble from Kadena airbase in Japan, 900 miles from North Korea's capital It was conducted earlier this week and recorded by Air Force cameras for North Korea to see. We reconfigured every one of those F-15s with live ordnance inside in 24 hours, and put them back on status ready to fight. But notice Brigadier General Barry Cornish is wearing a flak jacket. The air base at Kadena is in range of North Korean missiles as are 25 million people in the South Korean capital of Seoul

1:38:35 The US could launch a devastating attack but could not stop the North Korean military from firing off enough salvos to wreak horrendous destruction. Which is why Defense Secretary Jim Mattis sounds so diplomatic. In regards to North Korea, we are working with international partners in order to diffuse the situation If North Korea conducts another underground nuclear test or launches more missiles into the sea The US would likely limit its reaction to a show of force sending b-1 bombers from Guam to fly along along the coast and bringing in an aircraft carrier battle group. However, if North Korea were to launch an intercontinental ballistic missile toward the U.S., that might trigger a military response in the form of a cyber attack.

1:39:20 For now the Trump administration is counting on China to pressure North Korea into giving up its nuclear weapons program But if that doesn't work, they will turn to military options One officer told me when this crowd says all options are on the table. They mean it they really meet it Anthony Yeah in the many mainstream newspapers reported that North Korea and Iran now threatening to take out parts of the United States electric grid through a cyber attack or atmospheric nuclear blast. The Pentagon is taking steps to both protect the nation's communications and power lifeline. Can you give us some more money while we're at that? Well, the money is going to James Woolsey

CHAPTER 25 / 30 Discussion

DARPA Alternative Communications and North Korea Diplomacy

DARPA has commissioned BAE Systems to create an alternative communications network that can function if the primary grid is compromised by a cyber attack. The hosts discuss the robustness of the current internet and pivot to the idea of direct diplomacy with North Korea. They reference former Ambassador Don Gregg's view that the military-industrial complex benefits from continued tension to sell weapons to South Korea.

darpa· bae systems· communications network· don gregg· military industrial complex

1:40:11 Woolsey, former CIA director. I guess he's got a consulting group there and now he's working with DARPA Actually DARPA has charged BAE Systems to quote map a system that can detect a cyber attack and gin up an alternative communications network for military and civilian use if the grid is fried That's that's the literal text. These guys read they're reading too much science fiction Yes Yes, yeah the grid got fried man. God fried we gotta go outside me There's electrical there's electrical line and it's just I mean I guess I've got news for you melted the in the internet Was built to gin up an alternative communications route? I should say instead of your word network That this is the whole reason that exists is they could take that kind of hit and still work around around it now We got to have a new one

1:41:09 But it won't be ready until 2020. The rich one internet is not as robust as it was originally since they put these huge backbones in and rely on them for most of the activity. Just take out Verizon, we're done! Actually, if you blew up May West and took out Verizon and Comcast. You have maybe five targets. And blow up Am6 while your at it just for the fun. As long as Sonic is still working I'm good. So blow those guys up with 5 somehow. It's not going to take down the grid or do a lot of damage but

1:41:48 It's not that bad. I mean, it's not good but here it is let's go back to the square one which we've been talking about especially since you have the contact with Don. Why doesn't one president step up Or is he gonna lose face? Step up and have a meeting with these guys, and say okay what do we have to do work together. This is the great negotiator Trump What do we have to do to work together And then close ranks on that Make peace Tell them they can you know They can do research or whatever on their nuke thing Whatever they want to do But let's start making plans To hookup North Korea and South Korea as one nation The way they did with East Germany

1:42:33 Oh please, North Korea. Just swipe right! I don't see any reason that can be done. Instead of just saber rattling both sides, boom! You recall what Don said my uncle Don Greg he said it's for the military industrial complex is to sell crap to South Korea now the problem with that now is they sell a lot of crap to South Korea That's the problem which they don't even want South Korea doesn't even want it No South Korea would just as soon find a way to join up with North Korean and this bullcrap Right, but now that park is out. What's gonna happen? This is this is why it's different and interesting who makes who makes the call to buy something Who are we selling to that's what hey I love the sales tactic But who are we selling to whose the buyer now? I'd like to know if I was the president great great tactic Fantastic whose the buyer? What do you mean the buyers been kicked out of office well? Whose the buyer there? Whose the buyer now There's no other reason

CHAPTER 26 / 30 Discussion

Media Analysis of Trump's Madman Strategy

MSNBC analysts debate whether Donald Trump's erratic behavior is a calculated "madman strategy" to psych out North Korea or a dangerous strategic disadvantage. Critics argue that an undisciplined leader at the top causes the military chain of command to disintegrate. The hosts note that the media uses identical descriptors for both Trump and Kim Jong-un, framing both as "unhinged" and "off the rails."

msnbc· madman theory· chain of command· kim jong-un· strategic disadvantage

1:43:35 I don't know. This is the dumbest thing ever and if all hell breaks loose a lot of people gonna get killed Oh, there's that we're kind of used to that Hey North Korea hey hey north hey North Korea you got some North Korea clips if you're interested yeah Okay let us start with Okay, this is MSNBC. They are very angry on the one hand Brian when you have a dangerous standoff with a nuclear armed adversary of course You would like to think that within our government we have stability and methodical planning every step is very calculated And I'm not sure we can be certain that's happening in this administration right right now But I also would suggest it as people watch the way this unfold

1:44:35 holds, they think about the possibility that Trump is actually trying to use this to his advantage in a way that could be very dangerous I should add. But then I definitely see that as part of the strategy here to kind of psych the North Koreans out, to try to dislodge this status quo by suggesting we're just crazy enough to do the thing that George W Bush or Barack Obama would never do. a probability of working but i do think that's part of what's happening here and the colors jumping here and there is a the hallmark of military capability is discipline it's uniformity as why the military wears uniforms people who come into the military on their very first day learn to salute it's because they have respect for the chain of command at the top of the chain of command there is someone who's erratic undisciplined unpredictable

1:45:22 it causes the whole chain of command to disintegrate. And then you find that your military capability is actually lost, so I think this is a major strategic disadvantage for the United States of America I would just jump in and say that he's passed the madman test with flying colors. And the actual tests that he is facing right now, is whether he can sit atop of chain of command and command respect not just his own military and deputies who respect that sort of order but of the world. The world is watching how he faces this first test. Yeah all she forgot to say... I've heard a number of these very similar clips, almost had one on today's show. And as they go back and forth it's almost as though they're doing it on purpose to trying to confuse Kim Jong-un with Trump

1:46:11 No, not trying to confuse people. They're trying to conflate it like he's a madman at the top of the chain of command! He's a mad man! Very good observation very good I don't know if they're doing that on purpose but it's... Yeah, I think they are doing it on purpose. I can't say that just somebody directing it but it's just coming out on purpose and it's not like you played the first clip I've ever heard this I've been hearing a lot of this where The same descriptors. Maybe that's what it is, use the same descriptor Kim Jong-un with Trump He's mad he's nuts he's off the rail and crazy crazy time well as they used on the hinge within Kim jong-un That would have been a clip I had excellent point now of course this trump is crazy madman. He's mentally ill We've been hearing that for a long time we know that because of the Goldwater rule

CHAPTER 27 / 30 Discussion

Jay Rosen and the Goldwater Rule Question

During a session titled "The Trump Regime and The American Press," NYU professor Jay Rosen is asked a question by a "No Agenda" listener regarding the Goldwater Rule. The listener, identified as Dame Tanya, asks if the rule is the reason journalists are reluctant to report on the President's psychological issues. Rosen reportedly spent several minutes addressing the factor of psychiatric ethics in political journalism.

jay rosen· nyu· journalism· goldwater rule· dame tanya

1:47:04 This is something that cannot be discussed by... Supposedly. Well, now I... Bless you! Excuse me? You know during the past clip actually tried this blowing my nose with my left hand because i have allergies and stuff Yeah yeah it's not on my shirt That's the problem with left you can't control the flow No thats the problem with no I can blow my nose with my left hand but in my right hand I have trouble with it Oh okay well I've trouble with my left hand Anyway Whatever your used to Jay Rosen was at... now Jay Rosen is a professor at NYU I think? Yeah, he's an NYU journalism professor. Oh yeah those who can't do teach is that the idea? You said it! So the title of his session was The Trump Regime and The American Press And guess who was there to ask a question our very own Dame Tonya

1:47:58 Oh, and here's her question. Jay you had brought up the issue that journalists are reluctant to either explore or report on any sort of like narcissistic psychological issue with Donald Trump and I was curious as to whether you thought... And I never heard this term before I hear it on the No Agenda podcast. Yeah! Dang! Come on down This term before I heard it on the no agenda podcast he flinched when she said that I'm sure he did Dvorak, but could it possibly be related to the Goldwater rule? That I mean obviously journals are not psychiatrists But do you think that's a factor so he goes into three minutes of explaining that which I don't think we want To listen to know

CHAPTER 28 / 30 Discussion

North Korean UN Ambassador Warns of Thermonuclear War

North Korea's deputy ambassador to the United Nations warns that "thermonuclear war may break out at any moment" due to U.S. strategic assets in the region. President Trump responds by stating he will not "telegraph his moves" like previous administrations, though he expresses hope for peace. The hosts note Trump's respectful use of the term "this gentleman" when referring to Kim Jong-un during negotiations.

united nations· north korea· thermonuclear war· strategic assets· diplomacy

1:48:58 But it's in the show notes, the full clip. Yes. Nine to nine or two to dot no agenda notes dot com OK back to North Korea this was at the United Nations North Korea's deputy ambassador spoke a little hard you got to tune into him but he's actually his English is English is not that bad wow that was a microaggression but you have to tune into what he's saying The United States introduced South Korea The Korean peninsula, the world's biggest hotspot of a huge nuclear strategic asset seriously threatening the peace and security of the peninsula and pushing the situation there to bring off war.

1:49:41 It has been created a dangerous situation in which the South Korean nuclear war may break out at any moment. Oh, Johnny! You hear what he says? Thermonuclear war could break out at any moment. That's what he said but is this the guy from South Korea or North Korea? North Korea The North Korean UN ambassador Deputy Ambassador Because it seems to me that way positioning his complaint from a South Korean perspective Now South Korea hasn't got any nuclear bombs No, that's why he is saying. I think he is threatening. He is saying hey you better stop because this could end up in a thermonuclear war. Okay, just thought earlier phrasing was... it just didn't confuse me but keep playing. Oops sorry. It has been created dangerous situation in which the thermonuclear war may break out at any moment

1:50:36 on the peninsula and pose a serious threat to world peace and security, to say nothing of those in North East Asia. Very, very... I think it's pretty threatening what he is saying. Now of course we all want to know what the president is really thinking about. The vice president in Asia doing a four stop tour and he said basically the US was running out of patience clearly a message to North Korea you have a Navy fleet that has been sent into the sea of Japan right now have you ruled out military strike? I'm not like other administrations where they say we're going to do this in four weeks and that doesn't work that way We'll see what happens. I hope things work out well, I hope there's going to be peace But you know they've been talking with this gentleman for a long time you read Clinton's book He said oh we made such a great piece deal And it was a joke you look at different things over the years with President Obama everybody has been outplayed They've all been out played by this gentleman, and we'll see what happens, but I just don't telegraph my moves

CHAPTER 29 / 30 Discussion

Ham Radio and North Korean Number Stations

The hosts, both licensed amateur radio operators, discuss the role of "hams" as a public service network of last resort during disasters. They play a clip from a North Korean number station known as "The Parrot," which broadcasts coded messages over shortwave radio. The segment explains the technical background of number stations and the hosts' own history with radio licensing and emergency preparedness.

ham radio· number station· the parrot· amateur radio· emergency communications

1:51:36 Two interesting things one is he doesn't telegraph his moves. I like that We've never heard it in my lifetime have not heard a president do that say, you know, I'm not gonna tell you It's always been yeah, we're gonna drop some boots on the ground. We did this dad Yeah, I gotta tell and he kept saying this gentleman That was interesting. Oh, okay. Thanks to catch this gentleman being at that He does does that because he wants some respect in some kind of negotiation as my feeling You might be right. I never, I did not catch that. Finally on the bands, uh, picked up a North Korean number station. How do you know it's from North Korea? They don't give you anything. This is well known in ham circles that this is the, it's called The Parrot, this number station and someone in the war room said why does Adam always say Niner instead of nine? That is because we are both ham radio operators. We are licensed amateur radio professionals

1:52:33 How about that for a term? That's good. Amateur radio professionals save the world, save the world. Oh yeah we definitely got it. The hams will always save the world and this is one of these things that people don't really know the background of who are new to the program this was many years ago John said hey...this was private actually he sent me an email said hey there's these really cheap walkie talkies on Amazon 35 bucks just pick up two they're great for the Armageddon because yeah of course John's a prepper And it was a it was a who's your musician friend who told you that the what's his name? Yeah, come on with the six string with the five strings seven. Oh yeah Roger McGuinn McGuinn yes seven-string Roger McGuinn

1:53:19 And of course that you created a borderline prepper. Yeah, so we both got the technician's license which is anyone can get this anybody should get it and he so should you just memorize the questions are in The answers are published It's just the answers or multiple choice and they're out of order So you can you don't even have to learn anything? Of course I went on to get my general and And I'm badass in that regard. Oh, yeah You just told believe we get an extra and they'll be impressed now here We have ham radio guys ham radio is the public service network of last resort When the apocalypse comes where are the guys who are gonna save the world right? Right exactly

1:54:00 So let's have a listen to the numbers station. The number station is not just doing numbers, and this is just a small snippet of course... The number station is really excited! I couldn't resist. For those of you who want to listen to the Parrot, 3266.9 kilohertz.

CHAPTER 30 / 30 Discussion

Outro and Ramsey Cain Tribute

Adam and John conclude the special "Best Of" episode by thanking Ramsey Cain for his years of production work. They announce that the show will return to its regular live format on Sunday, featuring a full deconstruction of the week's media and the final results of the donation vote. The episode ends with a montage of classic show jingles and a final sign-off from the hosts.

ramsey cain· best of· sign-off· production· credits

1:54:43 So she's all worked up like that crazy woman who does the announcing on the TV. Yeah, it's similar yeah. Maybe it could be the same woman for all I know. That was good as usual we're never gonna see that again I don't think unless Ramsey you know... An era gone by. You know what? I kind of appreciate he went out on a high like that because so many of our great producers who have done things burn out So I'm kind of happy that he went out in a blaze of glory, and we really appreciate it. Of course He is also an executive producer for today's episode since so he did all the work really appreciate that And yeah, we'll be back on Sunday We'll have the final tally of our 3837 votes, and I'll have some stories from the road no doubt and more media deconstruction than you can shake a stick at another fine phrase from The Shays

1:55:43 Alright, so almost coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital the drone star state FEMA region 6 on the governmental maps But not really but I will be on Sunday until then. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C Dvorak tune in Sunday for another episode of the no agenda show until then as always adios mofos Can you get me a cab to the airport? Yeah, I can. Okay let's go! What's going on? Why am i losing this? Why don't I have sound? Alright it's back Someone is pressing buttons and turning my sound up Someone in that control room was out of control Control room what do you got? There's insanity in the control room The Labor Day sale Save on everything store wide The woman talking in my ear was talking about the Labor day special Who has a hammer

1:56:46 If you're white, you're a racist If you're male, you're a pig. If you're cis, you are privileged Skinny-shaming if you're big And if you're straight, you're homophobic Heaven help if your rogue So don't have an opinion and just do what you're told

1:57:48 Hey, come on guys. No no no no no no. And overboard!