Lightning Strikes

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak Oh yes it's time once again for your weekly bi-weekly Gitmo Nation audio publication 101 This is no agenda Coming to you from Mayfair in the lovely capital of the United Kingdom that's London From an undisclosed hotel location I'm Adam Curry And from where it rained last night with huge drops Wisconsin sized ones here in northern Silicon Valley and I am John C. Dvorak It's not quite in the morning, but it's morning. So he's in the morning somewhere correct? Hey Johnny how you doing

00:40 So why it we were in a rain here last night woke me up twice. It was this just as spotty rain But it wasn't normal rain, and I thought it was hail so loud Wow And there's a lot of electricity in the air so the drops got really huge I've never seen drops this big at 4 in the morning or any other time Let me get to BJ Thomas out. I got him somewhere hold on Anyways pounding and then stopped them is just amazing that's gonna rain again tonight They think it's like weird to be raining Northern Silicon Valley here in June. Hold on, here it comes! You know all you have to do is ask and thou shalt receive

01:21 I wasn't falling on my head, but anyway so lots of news in the last few days. Yes! Can i just... Let's start with what are we gonna start with? I want to start with the airline crash because you must have some thoughts on that yes I do and if you don't mind I'd like to give you a little personal story from today related to aviation before we go to the Air France airbus or yeah airbus right was an air bus yeah Today I was flying back from the Netherlands to London and it actually was a very nice day. And weather was supposed to be perfect or as they say, CAV OK which means ceiling and visibility okay. And I was at flight level five zero which is technically 5,000 feet coming up coasting in right to the north of beam

02:16 Manston, so that's a little bit more northern than Dover. And so I'm coasting in and I see the weather is just like completely closing in and it's not just clouds It's really...it's almost like the convection layer just all of sudden expanded and really went down to 1500 feet So I'm coming from 5000 feet and I'm like okay, I can't see anything so I'm going down, I'm descending about 1000 feet per minute And all of a sudden, so you know I break through this muck, this murkiness at about 1500 feet and all of the sudden hear a rescue helicopter. The rescue helicopter is talking to Manston and said well we're looking for lost aircraft can the November 277 Delta share give us a hand because that was pretty much the only guy in the air? So they had me monitoring the emergency frequency and actually doing search-and-rescue

03:10 to find some experimental ultralight that they had lost. They couldn't, you know... They'd lost radio contact with it and they had me checking the ground and making all these different maneuvers I was like wow! Didn't find anything unfortunately but I just thought that was kind of, it was in a way kind of exciting and another way kinda like a bummer. Yeah well that's interesting when you do this here is the question so say your flying around like that and some search rescue operation comes up on your radio says you have to help us or can you help us? You somehow you help them and you go flying around for something and you burn off like let's say $500 worth of fuel. That's a big search of rescue.

03:54 It's interesting you say that because I was talking to Captain Dan who is a certified instructor and who flies with you from time-to-time in the UK. And he said that, he has always been advised by examiners in fact when they ask you to participate in search and rescue just either not respond or say that you can't. Then I said why? He said it isn't really clear but people do stay away from it. That makes no sense, you know. Someone could be in freaking trouble! So obviously I didn't have to comply and they asked very nicely and it seemed like that was pretty much the only guy up there so yeah of course I hope someone would be looking for me if if I was in trouble... Did Captain Dan explain his rationale? No, its not his rationale but what he's been told and he said I wouldn't reject a request like that

04:47 So, um... Somebody must know why. Did he get sued? Is it one of those things where you're like a citizen and help somebody? I have the feeling that it has something to do with legal implications but regardless I asked him to find out why and he promised he would. But, you know... And of course I didn't have time to doodle around all day but they gave me a specific area and said there's a lot of fields there, a lot of opportunities There is no airfield except for Manston So this was really little bit more towards Canterbury They had me on radar and they were literally giving vectors so telling which direction to turn and i went down to like 700 feet 600 feet and I didn't see anything but it was

05:33 It was kind of interesting. So going back to the Airbus, because I did talk to the guys in the tower as I was waiting for a car to come and pick me up because I told them the story of the ultralight, the experimental ultralight and they said wow you know little plane gone big plane gone yesterday? And I said what is all this BS about lightning strike that's so rare that you could actually have a plane crash? They had done some research and they had followed the flight path. Now you have to understand that where this aircraft was there was no radar contact, but of course these planes are jammed with Windows Vista specifically in the Airbus

06:16 But lots of equipment so they really can't avoid bad weather but there was an entire storm system up to 45 maybe even close to 50,000 feet but certainly up to the 45,000 feet level That was right in its flight path, and I'll tell you one thing that you do not want to fly into essentially cumulus nimbus clouds And at any time because the Nimbus is a nasty cloud But yeah, I understood that there was a Louvre tons of flight within the same range and same flight path that plowed through all this stuff. Yeah You know and it's hard to say because the guy essentially he was uh? He was climbing

06:56 So he might have been climbing through it and it can be tricky. You know, sometimes It's hard to see now my personal feeling is that this feels like the continuing war between Airbus and Boeing you know? It was time for an airbus to come down so its too bad but tomorrow I'm flying on a on a Boeing 747 to San Francisco so I hope to God that it's not my aircraft isn't Boeing. What 747 are you taking? There are so few 747 flights nowadays. No, no Virgin Atlantic takes... they have Airbus but for the big crossing they use 747s. Yeah and now I think the 747 is the greatest plane in the world It is and if you know what sheet metal and rivets baby! No plastic on that sheet metal and rivets love it

07:46 So there are a couple other theories. I think still, you know... Actually have the article here and i'm sure you heard about this that apparently there was a bomb scare the day before? Let me just see if I can find it. No! I didn't hear about that. Yeah, I am looking for it. Hold on Officials investigate Argentina bomb threat as pilot claims Air France flight 447 was blown out of the sky by terrorists according to the mail online investigators are examining a bomb threat called in on a flight from Buenos Aires to Paris just days before Flight 447 disappeared over the Atlantic Ocean Aviation stretch what would why and usually somebody would take credit for it if they're you know doing that I

08:39 well maybe that's still to come. I mean Osama came out with a speech just like as i was coming back from San Francisco like 15-20 minutes ago of course everyone is already pooh poohed it as you know the gollies. Well 9 11 wasn't like Osama bin Laden took credit for, no in fact the media immediately started saying Osama Bin Laden before he even said anything so yeah and its hard to say but whether Yes, it's possible but it is so rare. It's not like Hollywood where all of a sudden there's turbulence and lightning flashes and you crash I mean its just no that simple Yeah you know I've actually been in a plane thats been hit by lightning Yeah of course! It doesn't do anything especially if it was in the sky I can be hit with my plane too You hope your not touching metal at the time

09:30 you're not uh... your foot isn't extended all the way down to the ground but it's just crazy, or you are dragging some wire. And even if it hits the electrical systems there is so many redundancies and back ups that can drop out of the bottom that will provide electrical current now there isn't an instance of a us plane several years ago that had a maintenance issue, its elevator so basically the part that makes the plane go up or down either got stuck or broken and they went into partial nose dive. They were able to recover and you could actually audio of this available online here are other pilots looking at him describing the situation any if you lose your elevator you just going to know is that he goes straight down in this case that's what happened with their better craft

10:24 that could be a possibility but really well you go ahead well i'm just saying there's still the issue with uh... with the fly-by wire in the software yeah and that is uh... that isn't deed what i feel it is kind of to airbuses detriment now this is like a holy war you know you talk to their bus pilots who talked about my let's say they will give you different Opinions personally I don't like the joystick fly-by-wire, you know. I'd like to feel that i'm actually connected either directly To um to the controls as with my aircraft small aircraft or you know hydraulics whatever? I don't like the whole computer fly by a wire thing it Doesn't sit pretty

11:08 Yeah, you know I flew a simulator real one that aims NASA and Actually food to two different ones. I flew 747 which is just a full-blown 747 cockpit the real thing And also they have this AF this advanced Whatever the heck it is playing that they program for different things in its fly by wire It's got the little joystick on it yeah, and curiously the joystick plane is the only one I could actually land safely John, I think in the real deal... You know what? I'm just saying. People learn how to fly 747 in a simulator they don't take them you know. Well yeah sure but if you're ever on an aircraft and they say ladies and gentlemen is there anyone on board who can fly a plane If John gets up! If John gets up and walks to the cockpit you're so screwed

12:06 Well, I'll take a few more hours in the simulator before I make it. Do you have an inn on the simulator? Can you get me on the Sim? I'd give my left nut to be on the Sim like that! I'll give him a note this week maybe we can go together... Really?! Oh God John..I mean i would really love you then huh yeah I mean It's hard, its expensive man, really expensive to get on a Sim for for an hour Yeah I guess What kind of contact do you have That's one of the guys over there, you know we do it after hours. And they actually like to... what kind of a kick is that they like to... You know for the journalists get to go there and we get to fool around in the simulators but the funny thing is he had me put into with the one that I thought was the most interesting experience was 747 takeoff which you could very easy to take off

12:54 747 takeoff on an iced over runway with a strong, completely ice snowing and crosswind. How much crosswind? I don't remember just a lot It goes like this. Hello John C. Dvorak, you've got a crosswind on runway 30? It's a lot! Here it goes like this...it goes like this. It doesn't matter what differences it makes. You can't go anywhere. Of course it makes a difference. You have to know what the crosswind component is because there's so much ice on the runway that all I did was just touch the throttle and I went straight into the terminal

13:33 And your bags can be picked up at terminal 1, 3 and 7. Apparently I was spinning the whole time so... Well you could see with a multi-engine... So I didn't care about what the crosswinds were? What difference does it make? With multi engine you can do it but you need to compensate with your engine so you give more thrust on the opposite engine. I changed my way of doing it. I talked to a pilot once because I sat next to one about this situation But the guys at Ames NASA, they just think it's hilarious. Yeah Well put me on that icy runway in the in that sim and I'll get us off the ground John I promise sure I promise you so the big news here over in these states Which will be picking up when you get here is real news Oh hold on. I was just switching to my browser give me a second Okay, well I can skip the real now and now back to real

14:23 Yes, and the real news is that Conan O'Brien bumped you know got Jay Leno off the air now He's doing a show which is highly it right now. It's extremely overproduced And it's actually quite good he's a very pleasant person So, yeah this is the big move where Jay Leno has moved to 10 o'clock and this new prime time deal. Is that on now as well or it's a... No it doesn't start until the fall season and its gonna.. It has disaster written all over for everybody but Jay Leno who will walk away probably close to being a billionaire because he's essentially picking up five primetime slots per week

15:02 and typically those bring it in a budget of about ten to fifteen million dollars a show and is going to be a low-budget show let's face it uh... you don't know that No, I don't know that but compared to a cop drama. I don't see that he's gonna be putting in as much money into the show Well, you know it's a studio show give me a break. You know no, I mean the anticipation is high I have heard that there was going to be a lot more production I think we're probably gonna see a lot more skits which honestly Leno skits are usually pretty lame and You know, it's not like a Letterman skit which is meant to be lame and ergo very funny. It's not going to have more production value than let's say Saturday Night Live or Mad TV and those still don't cost as much money to produce as cop drama So you're calling it now? You're calling it failure? Yeah I'm calling before he even shows up How many weeks do you give him? I'm gonna give him 6-12 weeks and then he's off the air

16:04 By the way, in that period of time he'll make probably about 5 or 6 million dollars a day. I wonder what their contingency plan is because there's nothing in production if it doesn't work out and they've got to give him a lot more time. There's just no way. In terms of the bet, your logic is sound? because you're right they have to have a contingency plan. You can't take off five hours of prime time at ten o'clock which is the key... But wait, it's not five hours is how many how much time he actually getting? I thought it was like... He's getting an hour 10 to 11. Oh 5 times a week okay gotcha

16:40 No, that essentially would be one prime time drama or two like sitcoms. So that's expensive stuff man! That is really really expensive and of course he is going to be pocketing all the money Let us put it this way The money won't necessarily be on the screen Yeah, It will be in his pocket Here's the thing, this guy I don't know how he arranged it. I've finally come to the conclusion that this guy is a master salesman first even though he blamed his agent and managed to get Johnny Carson kicked off of television and Carson once he retired never even did a Vegas act or showed up for anything after that because he was so steamed-up about it

17:18 So he gets him bumped off and then he comes up and sells this idea? I mean, this is a master at sales. This guy. I think... I don't think it's... No! To sell somebody 5 hours of prime time a week?! I disagree. I disagree. I don't think it's a master sales job. I think its complete desperation You know, the numbers are totally in the toilet. They've got to do something and they have to save money at the same time This is a total Hail Mary And they're doing the right thing by saying this is groundbreaking etc But it's a hail mary John It's not a sales job I don't think that idea came from a network executive

17:57 Anyway, let's move on because a lot of our audience does not give a crap about American primetime television. What they might give a crap about is real news from Latvia! Yes, Latvians may be feeling depressed according to Der Spiegel, fine German publication They may be feeling depressed as a result of the economic crisis which has hammered the Baltic state. But on Sunday, over 500 blonde women did their best to lift the spirits in Riga with a Blonde Weekend event! where essentially 500 blondes paraded through the capital wearing pink and white, many escorted by lapdogs wearing the same cheerful colors. Their goal? To use their beauty to shine a little light into the dark mood caused by the global downturn. Let me tell you we need more of this! This is an excellent idea

18:55 Brother, you know that this would have about as much chance as a snowball in hell of getting even past You know that they don't mind having a gay parade where everybody's kind of dressed like that in San Francisco But they have a bunch of women. Oh no can't have that you check out the pictures women up with their little dogs is not gonna happen Dude I'm saying look at these pictures. I just skype to the link. I'm saying roadshow to Latvia Are you going to put this in the show and note it? Yeah, yeah of course. These lesbian women aren't that bad looking! Look at the middle one in the middle picture look at her man The whole gallery they're hot dude go blonde There's a couple muffin tops there but other than that... Oh John like you have like your on a muffin top and your black speedo hema underwear

19:46 Yes, you do. Yes you do! No. You're HEMA Speedos and I've put them on order... They're not that tight Hey, I've put them on order. I have a demo coming, a beta with no agenda on the crotch. HEMA underwear, I've ordered 100 pair Seriously, seriously. You're gonna get different sizes I hope? No one size fits all it's one size fits all with no agenda my friend By the way talking about one-size-fits-all want to mention something you know when i was shopping at the HEMA I noticed something and I think America is probably haven't seen this forever which is that you go to buy some socks and they actually have your size

20:27 Yeah, as opposed to one size fits all everyone because we have the low skews We can't have too many skews. So you said just make somehow make a socket since everybody yeah, no I mean it so many people have emailed me about the HEMA underwear and they totally even women who say they love to wear men's HEMA underwear They used to say the same, tell you the truth. My wife was included in this. They used to like to wear the old Marks and Sparks underwear until they, the company stopped making quality. All you need to do is are we doing a $50 limit or one hundred dollar limit for the no agenda crotch ridden? Heem underwear that has to be that they'll have to go on me. Well, we can that will do both 50 They just get twice as many I only have 100 man It's the first run but when I look at it We're gonna look at them at the demo first to see if we actually liked the the other way with the first That's ten times as expensive as the actual Underwear itself is the embroidery part

21:29 Well, you know I don't understand why that is because there's so many of these computerized embroidering machines and operations now You should get but you should be able to get that in broader for a buck. Don't be your misunderstanding These are hand embroidered Oh Quality stuff it's quality stuff Joe on a handy boy what difference does it make well? Because it's a hand job You just, is that the reason you even brought this up? To lead to that joke. There you go. Butta Bing! Do you want to do your greyhound dog joke? Well, Jim, what we were talking about earlier... ...you mentioned some people used to say you could bet on horses by going to the... I heard this seriously. Somebody said, you know, you go to a dog track and by the way there's a lot of cool dog tracks in Florida

22:13 You go to a dog track and you would always watch the dogs before you placed your bet. You would place, look for the last dog that takes a dump and then you'd bet on that dog Now I was at the track, I swear And it was like this is how it lined up for me It was June 6th, six-six, it was the sixth race, it was Dog number six and he took a dump I put six bucks on him and he came in sixth Good job. Hey, can't wait to go to the track with you sounds like a hoot Actually the dog track is one of the funniest things I've ever experienced because about half two races Dogs go they grow like a bat out of hell They fly around the track and on the first curve there's always some dog on the inside that trips and falls Dogs go over it's hilarious

23:08 I used to watch the steeplechase. What is the big steeplechase in the UK? It's like sad, man where horses are falling over and they fall on the jockeys and their horses break their legs... I don't like it. You know what? What do they call a steeplechase, are they chasing a steeple? I don't get it. A steeple has something to do with the... because of these really high hedges that horses have so its basically a track but huge... They gotta jump Yeah they gotta jump It's like in track and field hurdles yeah but there really really high and it's ugh Once in awhile horse falls over and you know hurts himself Well thats talking about horse not dog

23:55 Gordon Ramsey, I think we actually predicted this. Didn't we predict that his demise was coming? Well he's getting out of it! He said looks like he's gonna save himself but maybe has to shut down a bunch operations. As you do the story I have a point of clarification that somebody sent me a note on... Go ahead. Oh well from the Sunday Times He's pretty much out of business altogether. Seven million pounds in back taxes for this money losing operations and that has to be like

24:34 VAT or something like that because if you lose money, you know You shouldn't technically have to owe any taxes But the story which I will put the link in the show notes man. The guy is just he is admitting He's saying that yeah well, you know, he says my ego got the better of me particularly with his US operations I think that's what we were talking about the u.s Operations that it's so hard to you have to run one restaurant as a celebrity chef let alone, you know 10 Or 15 and particularly having them in New York, which is forget about it So his goose is cooked I guess well, and I read another article It looks like at least he's gonna. He's gonna survive it He's gonna pay the taxes and it was going to be a smaller operation Now a couple of things that came up in the conversation recently when we were talking about sous vide Why is sous vide again because people? Sous-vide is that just low temperature cooking in a vacuum packed bag where you put it you take a piece of meat or fish And you put it in this

25:34 It's like one of those cooking bags, but you suck all the air out of it and then drop it in a bath of warm water and cook for day-and-a-half. And that makes weird tasting thing. I think its dangerous way to cook to summarize. Anyway, I mentioned that when Ramsey was being criticized for using cooking bags that it was all sous vide but somebody hooked me up to an article if i can find it we'll put in the show notes...I don't know..it's a week ago or more uh... apparently Ramsay had a bunch of little restaurants here and there some part of England so he had a central kitchen that he was making literally cooking bags like coco van or something like that and it wasn't sous vide at all

26:15 Whatever it was not as it was not sous vide. It was actually, you know Just let's make the stuff someplace else put in a bag and seal it and send it to the restaurant Let him warm it up right? And there was some documentation for that and I you know that You know, I suppose is probably better than most food in most restaurants but the same thing Is that after watching him do all those shows and we've both watched his show a lot of It's and all the lecturing he does about you know, well you should cook it fresh do it on the spot I don't like stuff frozen in a dad. He was full of crap Yeah, then he's doing it so I mean is just like, you know, that's a little annoying

26:52 Well, I like the guy. Hope his TV show continues and you know i've eaten at one or two of his restaurants it's good but uh the tv show is more interesting to me than yeah Yeah, I thought he was entertaining and I like his consulting style You know It's very down-to-earth and straightforward And something people can adopt to all kinds of things I think he's got a good But you know this setback is probably going to affect you know a lot of his personality. Yeah, hey the big news over in Gitmo Nation East in Europe tomorrow the European elections are being held

27:29 You know, I've that that's funny you mentioned that because I wanted to talk about this on the show a few months back when I was coming back from Amsterdam. On a big one. It was all Lufthansa flight and they were playing a commercial on the airplane you know they have these you can watch it's called in-flight entertainment. That's it it and uh... it was a bit by long commercial about the did dick stowell in the virtues of everybody getting to vote and they had like peter interviewing one person after another all i'm so happy i can't imagine that you know from one country to another i'm on e i'm on the i'm so happy i can vote

28:11 It was unbelievable and then it was like a whole thing, it was like a promotion to make sure everybody voted. And now as I read these reports from Europe, half the people aren't even remotely interested in voting and some of them just say, I'm not going to vote! You watch the turnout you watch how low the turnout is gonna be but there's a lot of fishy stuff going on and I wanted to highlight one thing in particular Tomorrow and now the European Parliament is huge 754 ministers of European Parliament will be chosen. Now, this is a significant number Yeah This is like that thing in Star Wars it's that no No It's the starfleet command council or whatever but but what's significant about? It is that this year we had 736 seats

29:01 and now with tomorrow's vote there'll be 754. Why is that interesting? That's an extra 18 seats, and that was determined in the Lisbon Treaty! That an extra eighteen seats were to created...were to be created Of course the Lisbon Treaty has not actually been ratified and passed by all the countries so they're ramming this shit through without it even being ratified What are these extra seats for?! Well, to suck more money out of the citizens of Europe. I'm sure it has to do with all these different rules about when a majority wins... It's math and i really haven't done it yet but essentially if you have one of the majors like France or Germany and then you need two more

29:55 Of the minor countries and even though you don't have majority, you win a vote anyway. So it all has... It's a scam John! It's a scam They needed the 18 seats to be able somehow it's changing the balance of the voting structure That's the only thing I can come up with So what do you think? The turnout is going to be 30-40% max? I would say 28 No, yeah I'll say 28% Nah Yeah i'll say 28%, because I think it's very very low there is a lot of you know real news is popping up all over Europe. You know there are all kinds of distractions. I think it will be very very low There is an article in the Irish Daily Mail

30:42 which I don't want to go into it into great detail but it does talk about one particular minister of European Parliament. You'll probably remember this guy from the German Green Party, Daniel Cohn-Bendit who is up for reelection he's actually a self confessed pedophile This is the guy who was teaching kindergarten and had kids pull a zipper up and down as some kind of game. He produced the book in 1975,

31:24 He worked in a kindergarten and allowed the children to pull down the zip on his trousers and touch him intimately In the book he had asked them why they wanted to play with him And not with each other but in the end. He caressed them his words God it's like that creepy character and family guy Which one is that? There's an old man and family guy who was a pedophile. And he comes, he's not in all the shows but he comes in every so often. He just talks like this...and he's just a creepy guy with no teeth! And he's like 80 and he's always asking the kids to get something out of his pockets I got a diamond here! He's got a walker! He goes around the block and says, I can't reach my pocket Can you reach it and get my wallet? That's horrible

32:09 It's really pretty funny. Germany's constitutional court is to publish its judgment on whether the Lisbon Treaty is compatible with the country's constitution by June 30th, this will be very important as they're examining a complaint by center-right politician Peter Gauweiler and some left wing deputies that... What country is this? This is Germany. Oh Germany so in other words that Lisbon Treaty may be incompatible with the German Constitution? Yeah, it makes sense. It probably is! Well it is because I've read this thing and essentially the death penalty or if you resist arrest and you run away If you are killed by the authorities, it's a legal kill. It is! I've read this thing man Hey see that dog over there? Go chase him hurry You may have forgotten... It's not a legal kill But yeah but you may have forgotten what we did discuss as I think previously on the show when uh, you know when this whole thing

33:05 really started cranking up but in the constitution, the human rights amendment if you will there's stuff in there that says you know if you are a vagrant drug abuser which includes alcohol. If you are not of sound mind you can be arrested you know this is the total Gitmo state is just about complete and now that they have their 18 extra votes, I'll tell you maybe it's this. Maybe they got these eighteen extra votes and somehow they will finagle so that they can ratify the thing without even having to bypass Ireland. You know its like screw it Ireland! You don't even have to vote again even though you said no already we've already got the votes It's going be something like that. Its gonna get ramrodded through and people are

33:51 Lethargic to this which is why I predicted 28% I'm gonna write this down 28 percent voter turn out. What did you say? I was thinking 30 to 40, baby up the call a number call a number call a number Well, I mean I could play prices right and just predict 29 But I'm gonna predict I'll try to be a little more honest about it. I'm gonna predict they're gonna do about 39 percent 39 point 39 percent you watch JCD39 okay, it's written documented now documented baby Alright, what you got? I've got tons of stuff. I don't know if it's a joke or not. No, it's not a joke! No, I think its real. I've seen screenshots and YouTube videos We got a number of people that sent us links to the BBC articles on no jobs, no school says labor Yeah this is about the MMR, the mumps

34:54 Rubella, mum's measles rubella. And this of course is already in place I think in New Jersey and several other states in the US if your kid does not have all vaccinations then they're actually forbidden from attending school which I think it's unconstitutional by itself. I think its totally unconstitutional So now this is all over the news here in the UK and of course everyone says, yeah it's a good idea. At least everyone they interview on the BBC thinks it's a good idea. Everyone they interviewed and showed on the BBC which ergo means everybody wants it!

35:32 I've had the measles when i was a kid. Everybody got the measles and the mumps, and sometimes they got... The German Measles is what Rubella is another form of measles only that german measles only last like three days but thats the dangerous one because if a pregnant woman gets it... It can make you sterile? Well no, the sterile one I think its the mumps If your adult male gets the mumps you get down in you get to you get the ball mumps as what you get But the rubella, if you're a female pregnant woman and you get this which is that doesn't happen that often but I suppose it happens once in awhile. Your child is essentially ruined for some reason but generally when we were kids everyone would get the measles and the mumps and chicken pox and all this stuff and it wasn't...I never thought nobody was worked up about it or like people were dropping dead

36:25 You'd get the measles. Oh, he's got the measles! I had the German Measles and I think you have to stay out of the light and then it goes away. It is a very short-lived thing My son who is graduating shortly He had the chickenpox and it was like one pock You need a shot, kid. He was like annoyed at everybody in the family. One puck! He was diagnosed he had the chicken pucks and he had the one puck... Where was where was the one puck? It's on his face it was a puck. Are you sure it wasn't a pimple?!

37:05 No, it wasn't a pimple. It was a chicken pox. So it's one part Dvorak love it Wow everyone is going to be so jealous how'd you get away? It's only getting one park You may have had two but there are actual Parties, measles parties for parents. Yeah that's kind of sick No I don't think it is sick! I think it's a perfectly good idea you know there are measles and measles break out and you basically put the kids together so they all get infected and they get the measles then their immune system is much stronger for them and they all survive everyone lives happily ever after yeah just something sick about it

37:43 I just saw breaking news that someone sent to me apparently, maybe it's not breaking news. It is a Dutch article, brilly.nl sent it to me that apparently Google and Yahoo conspired which would be not cartel forming but anti-competitive they made secret agreements not to poach each other's staff Yeah, wait a minute. Washington Post article hold on let me take this just came that's a scandal yeah it's a huge scandal hold on I'll send you the link for some reason we got to find more of this stuff because this is how we get our some of his money into the tap into the coffers of the US government

38:26 That's a big fine in that one. And the European Union of course can lay a fine on top of it. Here comes Nehle! Let me give you this link, something is weird with the... It looks like some proxy thing? Like the internet is really fast but takes 25 to 30 seconds for the page actually start loading It's dumb. Okay, here check this out you'll get you'll probably get the page from my market watch oh well there you go Maybe I'm instant selling more than item to be honest federal antitrust probe targets tech giants Sources say it's not loading for me John get to the check the story out Yeah, I'm looking at it The review said is a preliminary stages focus on the search engine giant Google and his competitor Yahoo Apple maker of the popular iPhone and the biotech firm genentech among others are going after everybody Wow Genentech too huh? This is Obama

39:20 Yeah, Obama is are going for it. No bomber. This is the we can get some money I mean it is big you know with the government has been so lax with these big companies that have been really kind of taking advantage Of the situation for so long Now you just turn around just a little bit start turning up to heat and you've got lots of money coming in That's one way to do it That works for me. I've always thought this collusive stuff was a bad idea, and I don't like it. I don't like the fact that companies don't compete. I never liked the fact that during both Bush 1, Reagan, Clinton and Bush 2 – the whole group of them let one tech company buy its competitor one after another after another. I mean Symantec basically was one of five or six or seven tools makers that made utilities programs, and they just essentially bought their rest…they bought one two three…just

40:11 And they took over the whole business and just didn't do it to public any good I mean did them a lot of good because they don't have to worry about competing anymore, but I always thought what where's Come nobody stopping. Could you imagine if me vo in revision 3 had such a shady? Shady deal amongst under the table deal. You'll be on page 175 of the pamphlet. Yeah, 175 of the onion. We'l get to those guys eventually how much do you think we can get out of them? Let's take Currys plane from Bloomberg I'm sure you've heard this one because you're so all over the tech news. Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft said if Congress enacts President Barack Obama's plans to impose higher taxes on US companies it will have to move work offshore

41:05 Like they haven't already Let's see when let me get this straight Microsoft has already hired more h1b people and want to hire even more and then they laid off the non H1 bees And they got placed they got you know R&D in China. They get our ND in India They opened up a big giant thing, and so they're going to they already did well and by the way You're still taxed can we do little instruments? I'm an American company are getting taxed for whatever your profits are Scott What does it got to do with being offshore? You can be all offshore and they're still gonna get taxed. Particularly with a virtual company you would think it's pretty easy Yes, what he has to do... Hold on! So the tax difference would be employment tax? Which is huge Okay well that's true How about a little intermezzo John I need a little shit Crap Now it's not loading I wanted it on cue but its no working

42:05 It might start in a second. You gotta get something faster, get a PC and get rid of that Mac No it's the page! That has nothing to do with the mac Please I'm not getting rid of this mac In fact i'm afraid to buy a new one because The sticker on the back probably won't transfer Oh there is Everybody please sing along What is this you're playing? Monty Python

42:44 I don't remember this song. No. Sorry, i just found that the other day and I love the song so much. It's kind of gross yeah I like it though So uh...I never heard that before didn't know Monty Python did uh... Yeah, it's a classic. Classic, classic. So, anyway we're talking about taxes. I was trying to break away but yeah you got something? No California apparently according to Pacific Business News

43:23 We'll run out of cash in 14 days. You know, I've lived in California like I'd say 99% of my life this happens every single year they run out of cash and 14 days every year this goes on every years never ended so what? I'm just saying it will happen while I am out there Yeah, well you know what the difference will be? Probably services will improve. I don't know! I was kind of shocked today in Amsterdam a friend of mine her mom is dying she's in care and so part of it is paid for by the state

44:12 So she was at her, you know, basically they have like every three months they sit down with the chief of the care center and you could say how is everything going? Any complaints. And she had noticed that the room really wasn't getting cleaned very well it was really dusty I mean like big gobs of dust And this lady says, well you know I'm really sorry about that but we've had all these cutbacks and one of the big cutbacks on the government budget for these homes is on the cleaning personnel. many hundred rooms or whatever so now there's only one the last thing you're supposed to cut of course and it's like one day a week and they have to do over 100 rooms and now it's the vacation period and they don't have this I think they have any temporary help is just half the staff has gone. It's unconscionable, and this is the government! This is always the way bureaucrats operate

45:10 When they get to make them cut something, always cuts some of the most important essential things just to screw with everyone. You know I'm reminded when I was at Tech TV when they were starting to do cut backs over there The first... you have to remember that there's a bunch of shows that had a bunch of very attractive women That were only not to insult any of them There are couples that were naturally beautiful but generally speaking most women on television If you sit down in a chair for couple hours with makeup person They're fantastic looking So they got rid of the makeup people, the cheapest people in the place. That's right! You're right that's always the first to go you're right we gotta cut back on hair and makeup and by the way the lighting director can come in once a week too. It's unbelievable and so I know the worst part about it is that these people were the lowest paid all meanwhile the executives are out living it up

45:59 It's like at MTV they always did that. And literally it was like, well you know we have a little bit of a slow period and cutbacks so the lighting director is only gonna instead of being there all full time he'll come in two days a week and you get a mark as your spot and then it was like find your light! So yeah hold on let me just angle my head a little bit to the right hey everybody bon jovi God yeah Creeps whereas at MeVio we just don't do makeup at all No, actually they have a make-up person for a couple of people that they bring in. I know we do Does she do your makeup you have makeup on don't you? no i do not use makeup You should! I know sorry that came out of me about it. I look great with makeup on well Why don't you get the makeup person to come by? Who cares who's watching why don't you do my own makeup then why don't you yeah? Yeah so I get laid

46:55 So here's the deal. Somebody sent me a note because I mentioned propylene glycol because it was related to ethylene glycol, might be poisonous but no of course it is not apparently. This what we were talking about regarding cigarettes? Yeah or those phony cigarettes. The ones that have the smoke. The e-cigarette yes. The e-cigarette the e-cig so with CIG by the way special interest group so E-Cig is actually kind of interesting as a term So, just as a nerd thing. Now it's CIG not SIG Yeah I'm just saying It is a pun So anyway the point is that the guy mentions this propylene glycol thing and then uh... you know there's some way with chemistry for example ethyl alcohol is something you can digest and methyl alcohol will kill you You know you just change things around a little bit one's poisonous and one's not

47:43 But what it brings to mind is a couple of things, and I want to just kind of change gears for just one second which is that we do need more support. We did get a really lousy week last weekend for various reasons. We didn't get as much volunteer income. Like zero? Donations... well no, we got a couple but it's not we didn't get the donations you normally get and look at what we're doing for this show. I mean right now is quarter to eleven, I'm dead tired there is all kinds of shit going on in my life You've rushed back from the city doing other stuff MeVeo related would you do Cranky Geeks today? Yeah Cranky Geeks good show today by the way Who was on? I don't remember

48:26 I'm supposed to remember who cares, but you know we really do put the effort into it twice a week on Sunday Sunday It's like a day off. It's the Lord's Day the Lord's Day You know and and and and we're working you know We need some dough slash and a large or such in a once again wait I wonder the jingle now The jingle is that I think that Jingles what killed it to be honest about I think that jingles too long 22 seconds That's way too long for a jingle for this show. How about this one then? Okay, that's good. Things have to be shorter. And that's another one for the armory! Alright... Well Jeff is going to be hurt now that you don't like his jingle. Well Jeff has to shorten these things up because I got too many complaints about the length of this thing and then I listened and said well it was a little flippant. You know? It was as though we were gonna throw something in there. It wasn't serious enough. Like we really do need the money. Alright alright so yes we did but let's go back up. Let me just ask one more thing for people out there because of this propylene glycol thing

49:26 If you want to get a hold of me, send me an email at johnatdvorak.org and if you're interested in this particular thing instead of donating money I want a copy of the Merck Index by my side. And if I have a copy... The what? The Merck index. I don't understand. The Merck index is that guy used to have one that I used when I was chemist. That's how I learned about it. What is the Merck index? The Merck index is this big book And you can look up anything in there that's a chemical or anything. All chemists use this book constantly because you're always saying, I'm going to be putting this reagent together and you'd look up the stuff to see if it's going to kill you. Does it have a little mark next to it? Like this is deadly! There are some stuff that you work with and you use it in analysis in terms of doing some chemical analysis. You have to work with some of the stuff

50:17 And I'm not going to start throwing out names of various weird poisons, but there was one in particular that will...I mean one flake of this stuff if it lands on your skin will kill you dead in seconds. What is it? Let's get some of that! It's not gonna tell us what it is. Why not?! Is it readily available? Is it easy to obtain? I have no idea. All i know is that it was in a safe and you had to have two or three people to get out just the horrible stuff but the Merck index is what you use quickly look up this stuff if I had the Merck index next me when I'd Is it expensive? Blather on about propylene glycol, would've looked it up and say... Is the Merck Index expensive? Is this costly? It's 100 bucks

51:00 Well there you go, you could be the person who actually pays for the Merck index. 100 bucks! Yeah That would be great. You can get an old one for a lot less, but the new ones are about $100 bucks. So that stuff you mentioned, that flake and the way they handle it? You have to have three people in a safe? That sounds like a Baxter International operation actually! It's kind of like that but there is a lot of stuff that you don't know or never heard of... But the Merck Index has got everything in there. And if you looked up on it would just say WOW! How do you spell Merck? It's a it's a from work. I think is done by those wait, isn't that online? Not not the real one not to maybe you can subscribe to some online service But there's no way I can look this and besides that it's nice to have a big tomb next year when I flip through it You just hold one Merc index Wikipedia Oh the Merck index online

51:57 There you go. Hold on, Merck... It says Merck index on... I hate this proxy thing these... I'm never staying at this hotel again. Oh here it is! Dude!! Yeah, what you'll get the book don't worry. You'll get the book check it out anyway by the way I'm wondering why your Skype could by the way your skype connection is outstanding tastic? I know it's something that has a wise what's wrong with them with the web because at some kind of proxy or something you know online SM There you go so can use search. I don't look like you can download the PDF John Oh, that's the blue if this thing is huge. I don't want to download the pdf oh god forbid

52:37 We can't search. Can you search? I'm not seeing any searches this is a five This is an October 2005 there's a 2006 version outdated it's no good well You know the fact is the one from 1960s probably as good as anything all right World Health Organization official says world edging towards pandemic Geneva, Dateline, Geneva. The spread of H1N1 flu in Australia Britain Chile Japan and Spain has nudged the world... Why don't these guys give up on this? We had just a regular flu with everybody all inoculated we had 30 thousand deaths in the United States we have what five

53:16 What are these guys, what are they trying to sell here? Well vaccines. The newly discovered strain had caused more infections than seasonal influenza at the start of Chile's flu season raising concern about how it would spread in the southern hemisphere according to Kaiji Fukuda who is of course is the World Health Organization acting assistant director general They do not give up, do they? I want to mention by the way that of all the people covering this from the get-go we are the only ones that called it as bullshit. Yeah from the very beginning actually was you but in this case I'll take that as a compliment. Slow on the draw.

53:58 I was just going to say that, i was reading an article the other day that's now saying they expect United States citizens to have to get three flu shots a year. Yeah well in the Netherlands they've already ordered... Why? Well because it's like five bucks a pop! In The Netherlands they ordered 34 17 million people in the country everyone gets two shots 5 bucks a pop It'll be mandatory otherwise you can't go to school or you can't go to McDonald's or whatever they make up its money money money baby it all about me we should have that this is the school what we're begging for money was stupid we need to have people take a flu shot and charge my law exactly

54:38 Devorah.org slash na to wrap that up but anyway go to the right org slash any I'm gonna change that page so it's a little more pleasant by the way and then we're gonna put something in there so people can subscribe in a way that they can get a knighthood now there's another one you should be since you're in England I understand that wacky Jackie the crazy woman that runs yeah is quitting no no it says Sheila bear No, I thought Wacky Jackie was quitting. That's what I was reading in the Times. Well, I know that Sheila Bear quit and she is on a Wacky Jackie level. Hold on let me try... Wacky, this is the one who put Michael Savage on the on the do not I listen to not enter Let me see. The news hold on a second for some reason Google just pop really quick on this shitty connection Well, I'm looking that up John. I got some inside information which i think is pretty interesting There is a new 20 billion dollar project That has just been approved for natural gas in Australia

55:42 And it's already been sold. It has already been pre-sold to the usual suspects in the Pacific Rim, but what is interesting there is this island and the name escapes me that is actually a nature reserve or its protected Island And there's been a kind of like an independent oil or independent refinery, natural gas refinery on that island for like 40 years. And the only reason they were allowed to have that refinery there is because they had to commit just to protecting the island And so now they're going to start doing this 20 billion dollar project and the other building that they're expanding. They have a little runway there that could take like King Airs and stuff, but now they're expanding it to take dash 80's. So it'll be huge! Screw the environment! Screw the island!

56:33 Let's just go ahead. There is a bunch of weird stuff going on in the petrol business. Well, prices are moving up we're moving towards... The prices are moving up for no apparent reason and while the demand is down so I think this is kind of a phony thing and I'm expecting that to turn around eventually but but I was watching Dan Rather this week's Dan Rather show on HDNET it's really interesting because he got a bunch of Russians on there they're talking about you know their strategy with Russia send you an mp3 of the chat so you can listen to it, because we need to talk about what they discussed. And they also talked about how Russia's got this huge natural gas pond that is apparently the size of anything Saudi Arabia or anybody else has and then we have this discovery in Australia and then as... every once in a while I get an email on

57:19 We have in the United States discovered two huge pools. Huge, yeah huge. And the one in Louisiana apparently is as big as anything in the world and nobody's talking about it! It's Hazel Blair I'm sorry Hazel Blair has resigned. I don't know what you're talking about wacky Jackie, I only see hazel Blair Well have to get you the link but anyway you submit that mp3 tonight so i can listen To it on the on the plane oh that's a good idea yeah Yeah cuz I got 10 hours which I okay well I'll say You have to go put in other words to make the MPD not pulling anything not by your command So I'm gonna have to pull The thing and then It'll take an hour so if you can pick it up In A couple Hours I Can do it

57:59 Yeah, no problem. I mean leave the hotel at 9 so that's only 1am your time so you have plenty of time to look for it. To pull it? Hey that magazine that I offered since they illegally took my Creative Commons copyrighted picture and I said hey why don't Why don't you just send 5,000 euros to War Child? So they had the editor of this magazine on television going ha ha ha We're not gonna do that first of all what a dick. You know I'm in war chaos We're not gonna send any money to war child

58:39 And by the way, I haven't received any real documentation. Well they'll be in court within two weeks and I don't even have to show up my lawyer is so confident he says Adam even if we lose I'll pay for our costs It's like these guys are so screwed! I love it! That's good So, what else we got on the list? I had one thing. There's a... We gotta wrap it up man! The war with Korea. We can do that in the next show. The war with Korea. I want to thank our producers Keith Ray, Chris Engler, East Coast Research Lutz and Frederick Carlson for sending us a lot of tips

59:24 There was something on Twitter that's kind of interesting I was trying to remember, but I can't. Oh yeah! Yeah...I just wanted to ask this question before we started the show because I was looking at Twitter for people saying they could hear the stream. Do you know why people say, I am leaving my house to go such and such to be flying in New York and they tell all these details about their lives? When some criminals are going to decide to get on twitter and just rob people blind because every move that they make is on a personal level Say that again, say that again. In other words I'm gonna am i gonna say yeah here in Albany by myself because my wife is over at the other house and I think imma go to New York today ill be back in a week now what do I wanna make that announcement for just leave my house like open for a perky... Yes really come on by! Come on you... Does anybody think it's a good idea to be so open with your every move?

1:00:20 No, no. That I don't think it's a good idea. I was seeing somebody just saying exactly where they were this time right now I'm at the coffee shop and so it's in such place anyone wants to say hi? Well that's not really smart. Well I'd say hi your house. It's not really smart Anyway, I don't know just a complaint of mine. There's a good Twitter video album. I send you the link to it You can put it on the show notes Hey dude my daughter is like texting me and I really want to talk to her she wants to talk so can we wrap? It up with yeah Right right We're at the past the hour point I think and the fact that she wants to talk to me is really good So if you don't mind so yeah, we'll be back on Sunday Yes absolutely and I got work slash in a yes

1:01:02 Yeah, and I've got... well that's really weird my uh.. hmm. Oh there you go for some reason my MIDI controller wasn't working There we go um yeah and i'll be at the uh oh and uh Mickey says hi good she's listening to her well she's hearing so oh she is? She's listening? Yeah! Oh yeah We-we got a fan And you know what? She wears-she wears male HEMA underwear From six to seven hold on She wears-she wears male HEMA underwear As all smart money does yes of course no a Sunday And I got this like corporate apartment that Rosie set me up with so it'll be interesting to see how the bandwidth is because whenever I'm in California and you're in, California basically the connection sucks particularly if we're both on Comcast Yeah, I did a thing with the guy the other day on Comcast and they just died right really yeah. Oh, you're kidding me No, she's right in the middle. We had a great connection boom dad was that with?

1:02:01 Horowitz? No, this is separate now. Horowitz has another issues with his connection I think Horowitz has issues in general. Just kidding! I like him, I like him... Okay so anyway that was fun coming to you from an undisclosed hotel in Gitmo Nation East in the capital of... Why don't you tell us where it is your leaving tonight It's a Mayfair I'm not going to tell you, let an idiot show up. I'm not going to tell you that. Absolutely not! I'll Twitter it don't worry Hey! I'm at this hotel. I'm Adam Curry and from sunny but maybe rainy northern Silicon Valley I am John C. Dvorak We will talk again on Sunday right here on NO Agenda