Circular Reporting

00:00 Bullguns, eh? Fascinating open. Poor luck where all the old people go is that where you pay do this way the oldest town is where the most old people are that's where you picked it up. No somebody brought it I've never seen it before it's pretty tasty. I got some CBD tea from from Amsterdam CBT yeah, and and do you buy it right in the house effective it how effective is it has no THC oh

01:06 It's a... it's a... they call it sleepy time tea with CBD. Does it knock you out? Well, when I drink it I always... you know... Get drowsy? Yeah. I get drowsy. Not really drowsy, but it calms you, I think. I think. I don't know. I'd rather smoke my CBD. I think that's a much more effective way of administration. Just my opinion. Yeah. It's easier on the lungs. Yeah, big day today, Jean-Claude. We got the Stupor Bowl happening today.

01:41 I have the whole thing wrapped up in a nutshell. I have a clip for the Super Bowl. I have one Super Bowl clip that says Sippy Bowl, but it means Super Bowl. Yes. It's just an ISO though. Yeah, that's all there is. Okay. Let's go! Let's go! Yeah, okay. That's the Super Bowl in a nutshell. Well, we always feel that a lot of these sporting events are rigged. certainly organized sporting events, but the Olympics is always very interesting to watch. But with a lot of geopolitical stuff going on, I think that we need to investigate this or just pre-construct, deconstruct what might happen with this year's Super Bowl. Well, I think we did at the end of last show where we, you said you think the Eagles will win and I thought the Eagles would win for technical reasons. No, I don't think because of the replacement

02:37 quarterback? Mine, that was my thesis. Yeah, yeah. Well now last year the Patriots, the Patriots, the Patriots, the Patriots, I like, no that's their new name, the Patriots, they were going to win because of Trump's friendship with Brady and Belichick, he's the coach right? Yeah, Belichick. And the owner Robert Kraft Yes, they're all Trump supporters. That's a good point right, but we can't have that this year and now of course we have The NFL you know they allowed players to take a knee for the national anthem the ratings are down So I don't think they're gonna be doing Trump any favors to get new as good graces so Eagles win. It's just it's obvious

03:27 Okay, well that's a little more stark. And I gave you 17 points, the Eagles will be down 17 points before halftime and then they will still win the game. And the rationale, where'd you get that from? I can't reveal my sources and methods, it's important to national security. Okay, well, that's important to national security. That's all that counts. And by the way, all you have to do is say that and then everyone... Yes, yes, sir. Yes, indeed. I think I might have a compilage of such. Let me see. This would be under the heading, the memo. Yes, I do have a compilage. For those of you who didn't know, the memo came out. I was surprised. You were right. I didn't think it would come out this quickly.

04:10 Yeah, here is what we heard about how dangerous this memo truly was, I think before we read it. The next Waco, the next time that federal law enforcement agencies are killed in the line of duty, that's on Trump. I'm not surprised that the FBI comes out and says that this is dangerous, declassifying this information is dangerous and endangers national security. The so-called Nunes memo, a four-page memo which by the way threatens extremely classified information and endangers sources and methods. The president wants it out even though there are concerns that the work of tens of thousands of law enforcement and counterintelligence professionals may be smeared. They're advancing in some sense the interests of Russia. So I didn't see any real national security concerns. In fact, I have another compilage. I have another compilage which what this was really mind-boggling of all the all the terms you could bring back

05:06 to describe this memo. And by the way, it did say memorandum in it, but it wasn't structured as a memorandum. No, yes it was. It was? Was that, is that how you structure a memorandum? Pretty much. Why would you... And the funny thing, I hate this, I better say something or everyone's gonna roll their eyes on this one. I'm actually an expert on memo writing. No, I'm not rolling my eyes. I know you are, that's why I'm asking you. Because I actually, I took a whole full day seminar Of all things, I'm a big fan of seminars by the way. I took a full day seminar when I was working for the air pollution district on how to properly write a memo. If you can imagine it being a whole day, it actually was a whole day and I thought it was very valuable. I can write an unbelievably kick-ass memo.

05:54 Know if you feel this memo was structured properly according to your seminar. I think so Yeah, it was good pretty well structured. Yeah, I always like writing memos that start off with to memorialize our conversation I love doing that No, no, no, they brought one back they brought one back of all the things you could call this memo What would the what would the stupidest word be? Oh I don't know, but I'm guaranteeing the audience that you've got it right ready to tell us. The release of this memo is really reminiscent of the darkest days of the McCarthy era. Imagine if Devin Nunes is feeding us a nothing burger. This is, you know, amongst one of the most dangerous days of this presidency so far.

06:41 about a nothing burger. This is extremely dangerous manipulation of information in order to discredit an investigation. Oh for goodness sakes the memo it could be momentous or it could be a great big nothing burger. Well that's right we're at a very dangerous inflection point here an incredible abuse of power. So what happens if this thing does turn out to be basically a dud and I'm not saying the word nothing burger because I was Wow, that guy needs his head checked.

07:26 So it's dangerous. So you had that compilation, you overdid that one. They had, it's dangerous and followed by nothing burger, dangerous nothing burger to imply that it was a nothing burger, which is the worst phrase ever developed. I think it was during the Clinton campaign. It was after, it was Van Jones who started that, remember? He was, they hijacked him, they jumped on him outside of some building. Maybe, I can't remember that, but I do remember Clinton used it once. Well I have it right here. I'm sure you do. Yes, I have it right here. This is what we do.

08:09 We met in Palm Springs a few years back. Good to see you man, you good? Yeah, how you been? What are you doing? What do you think is going to happen this week with the whole Russia thing? The Russia thing is just a Big Nothing burger. Really? That's where he launched it, the Big Nothing burger. It was Van Jones. Low calorie. Alright, so we both read the memo. Your thoughts? Yes, yes. I actually think the PBS report is quite good, which I have clipped extensively. OK. And I and I the other networks, I mean, I think PBS just did a better job except for one thing, which is highlighted by the first clip. The teaser memo. PBS won. Hold on a second. Got it. Tonight's other major story is the release of a highly contentious congressional memo on the Russia investigation.

09:04 Okay, was this memo on the rush? No, no, no Good catch Let's do that again Tonight's other major story is the release of a highly contentious congressional memo on the Russia investigation It's so interesting because that conflagration is made continuously Oh, especially on PBS. Ha! Good catch. Now PBS also kind of... What is the memo about? It's not about the Russia investigation? Apparently not. I don't think it is. No. It's just about... I'll just tell you the two sides. Methodology. Yeah, methodology. Thank you. That's a great word. The memo is about methodology.

09:50 Dimension A is saying, our institutions, everything's rotten to the core, and you know, this is democracy has fallen apart, this can't stand. And Dimension B is saying, ah, this memo is trying to stop the Mueller investigation by getting everyone fired. That's pretty much all I've heard. I think that's pretty much all there is. So let's listen to their actual report here a little longer. This is PBS 2. Tonight's other major story is the release of a highly contentious congressional memo on the Russia investigation. It's named for Chairman Devin Nunes of the House Intelligence Committee, and Republicans say that it shows abuses and bias. Lisa Desjardins begins our coverage.

10:33 President Trump personally announced the decision to release the Nunes memo. The memo was sent to Congress, it was declassified. Congress will do whatever they're going to do. But I think it's a disgrace what's happening in our country. And when you look at that and you see that and so many other things, what's going on, A lot of people should be ashamed of themselves and much worse than that. The memo written by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee begins with some stunning language. It speaks of concerns with the legitimacy and legality of how the Department of Justice and FBI have worked with the FISA.

11:10 or foreign intelligence surveillance court and says there is a troubling breakdown of legal processes. What's that based on? The memo centers on secret surveillance of Carter Page, an advisor to then candidate Donald Trump for some six months in 2016. Republicans charged that the FBI and DOJ, including top officials James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, and Andrew McCabe, got permission to spy on Page based on flawed sources that were biased against Trump, and that the agencies knew that and hid it. Specifically, the memo says that officials did not disclose that the Trump opposition research dossier put together by Christopher Steele was funded at one point by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign. Another charge, that Christopher Steele himself was biased, telling a justice official in September of 2016 he was quote, desperate that Donald Trump not be elected.

12:04 One more, that the justice official he told, a man named Bruce Orr, himself had conflicts, that his wife worked for the company behind the dossier. This all matters far beyond Carter Page because Republicans say this information sparked the much wider Russia investigation by the FBI, now led by special counsel Bob Mueller. Some are using that to question the investigation. Democrats say that's the real and political objective here to undermine Mueller's investigation. Oh, well, there you go. That's pretty much what I said. Only they took two minutes to do it. We were done. But they had some details that were worthwhile. You know, we started... By the way, is there anything that ever comes out in this? I'm going to play the two more clips, but is there anything in here that we haven't discussed on this show many a time? No, nothing. The only thing...

12:53 that, well I knew that, we knew that Steele had talked to the media, but I was unaware of the Michael Isikoff conversation. He's, he, and that was mentioned in the memo. Specifically, he wrote the, he wrote the article that was apparently used as corroboration that the Steele dossier was, had some, had some meat to it. So I didn't know that, but I did Pick up something from Michael is a coughs podcast because of course because of course he has a podcast And he has more his podcast is called skullduggery

13:34 And first I should point out that I'm not the only journalist that Christopher Steele was meeting that day, and I can talk about this because Christopher Steele himself in a British court filing has said he spoke to journalists from multiple news organizations. Kind of makes him a slightly unusual spy, a spy who talks to a lot of reporters. Former spies. Right, right. And by the way, if I learned anything I feel that you could have a third take on the memo and the whole situation at large. The British government disrupted our elections by putting their spy in the middle of our business.

14:19 I think you're 100% on that one. I mean, that's... That needs to be one of our... Yeah! Yes! I mean, it's... That needs to be one of our points, one of the no agenda points regarding this whole thing. It's certainly plausible. We know that Britain didn't even want Donald Trump land before he was president. They didn't want to let him in the country. Right, before he got elected, there was... We have the clips... Yes, we do. ...of him being excoriated in the House of Commons. And it was ridiculous. They were all calling him names, everybody. There was one of your clips, what would you have titled that? House Parliament, Parliament something maybe. Probably Parliament. Yep, I think I have it here. I'm sure that it's a great shock to you to see that a genuine...

15:10 That's the EU Parliament, now we want the British Parliament. Anyway, we have it somewhere for sure. But that's the only thing that no one is really bringing up is, hold on, this was a, yeah sure, former MI6, former I'm sure, can you really be a former spy, really? Who worked in Russia. So, you know, it could it could just as well have been the guy was flipped by Russia and he was doing this on behest of the Russians. That's all plausible if we're just talking out of our buttholes. He spoke to journalists from multiple news organizations, including ours. Kind of makes him a slightly unusual spy, a spy who talks to a lot of reporters. Well, yeah, he was a former spy. Right. Right. But and I should say he was forced to

15:58 document that as part of a lawsuit that's been filed against him and his company over the dossier. But in any case, yes, look, Glenn Simpson, as I mentioned, old friend, you know, stellar journalist. I didn't realize that Glenn Simpson, who runs Fusion GPS, was like a big time former journalist. I'm sure you knew this. I didn't know that. So it seems like a great gig. Much much better. There's a lot of gigs that are better than being a journalist nowadays. I mean doing oppo research Yeah, and you see the in the numbers these guys were getting

16:36 Oh yeah, there's good money in that. We should be doing it. Just a thought. Investigated business and was doing opposition research for the Democrats. I did not know, by the way, that it was the Clinton campaign itself and the DNC that was paying Glenn's company, Fusion GPS. But I knew it was on behalf of Democrats who wanted Clinton. oppo research and and that's what i do during political campaigns talk to apple people from both sides to see what they got to see if uh... there's anything they have that might be worthy of a story so i make a super steel uh... he's a serious guy and i mean mean that in every sense of the word

17:18 were going to love just pay off his resume. He former MI6 operative in in Moscow, the top Russia specialist for British intelligence for many years then in the private investigative business had been hired by Glenn to do this research on Donald Trump's ties to Moscow. But he He was not interested in small talk. There wasn't a lot of, you know, humorous asides. It was all business. And he had what clearly he viewed as some very significant information that he had developed from his sources, the people that he had tasked. So let me just stop you for one. So, I mean, obviously throughout the course of your career, you've met a lot of secret sources and a lot of different places, including, I'm assuming, Washington hotels.

18:07 He struck you as credible, is what you're saying. That he was not flaky or conspiratorial. He struck you as someone who was a serious guy. Now wait for it, but this is what he's really in the business for. Yeah, I think that's fair to say. Obviously I wanted to check him out. And by the way, I should have mentioned this earlier, all of this This will be documented in great detail in the forthcoming book I have coming out with David Korn, Russian Roulette, the inside story of Vladimir Putin's attack on America. He's just plugging a book. David Korn. With David Korn, the other guy who's complicit in this. Come on.

18:54 That's just lame. We gotta have a book, Podcasting the Memo. Podcasting Russian Collusion. Yes, we lived it. We lived it for years. We have a book about it. We all will be revealed. All will be revealed. We have sources. All right, let's go back to the PBS discussion on memo PBS 3. Democrats say that's the real and political objective here to undermine Mueller's investigation. President Trump was asked today if he is now more likely to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the man overseeing the Mueller investigation. Meanwhile, Democrats argued the Republican memo is wholly misleading. For example, it shows the date of the surveillance request, October 21st, 2016, but that was nearly a month after

19:48 After the Trump campaign, had said Carter Page was no longer with them. Yeah, that's a little annoying detail, isn't it? It's not annoying to me and I can tell you why. I think it's over, but there's one aspect of this completely overlooked. Okay. And that is, and by the way, the Democrats, if you listen to the talk radio guys, and including the Trump haters that are on the talk radio, the right winger, Michael Medved, who seems to be like a never-Trumper. And they all bring out this date. Well, this was after he quit. But as we found out from Snowden, once you get one of these warrants, it's like a tape recording that goes to infinity in both directions of the timeline.

20:29 So you drop right in on that date, but that doesn't mean anything. You get to listen to all the recordings in the past. Yes. All the Trump recordings in the past. Yes, yes, yes. And all the recordings in the future. John, put the Vinegar book on hold. Our book is going to really explain it all. So the bull crap about the date is nonsense and we know all that because Snowden told us. Yeah, why isn't anyone bringing that up? Oh, why do you because they either don't think of it or it doesn't it doesn't meet their standards of whatever Theory they're they're promoting. I think you know, we registered section 702 org Maybe five years ago six years ago. Maybe even longer than that. I

21:12 And and you know, but I was collecting articles about section 702 which is exactly what we're talking about which President Trump just reauthorized Yes, quietly I might add which is extremely disappointing wasn't that quiet, but well it was it was reasonably quiet It was on a Friday. You know one of those deals. It was the memo yeah, but you know what I'm saying Yeah, why are you arguing with me you agree on this we agree on I do but the thing is he first didn't want to sign off like after the Napolitano thing and we had the clip of it and Napolitano went on and on about how Trump's all in trouble because of 702 and then whoever else came up and said and then Trump sent out a tweet saying he's not going to sign it. And then then the quietness began and he signed it. So somebody got to him for some reason.

22:01 You have to sign it, President, because we're going to be screwed. The Russians will take over the government. I don't know what the Russians... Or, you know, hey, do you want us to get rid of all these people? We need 702. That's also possible. That's probably more likely. Yeah. Anyway, so this is bullcrap. The date is bullcrap when they start fending off this guy and I want to maybe stop right here and let's go into something that no if you think they're not discussing the date and the way it can be used Let's talk about Carter page. All right, let's talk about I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you what you think when I tell you his background Can I tell you something first right off the bat? Yes without a doubt if I went to central casting and said get me a guy who looks like a Russian spy and

22:45 He would be in the top five. He has the look. Well, just like Stephen Miller has the Nazi look it's sad, but that's just you know, that's just what they got I can't hear they can't help it. He's got to look he's got a Russian spy look, but I believe like probably yeah, I can see that he's like Naval Academy projects himself as a goofball page graduated in 1993 from the United States Naval Academy with the distinguished graduate top 10% of his class it was chosen for the Navy's trident scholar program and which gives selected officers the opportunity for independent academic research. During his senior year at the Naval Academy, he worked as a researcher for the House Armed Services Committee. He served in the Navy for five years, including a tour in Western Morocco as an intelligence officer for a United Nations peacekeeping mission.

23:33 In 1984, he completed a Master of Arts degree at the National Security Study at Georgetown University. After leaving the Navy, Page completed a fellowship on the Council of Foreign Relations, and in 2001, he received an MBA from New York University. And then he became an investment banker with Merrill Lynch in the firm's London office and a vice president in the company's Moscow office. Does any of this sound a little suspicious? A spot the spook, spot the spook. Everybody wants to spot the spook. Yeah. Let's move on. This guy's a spook! You think? Huh! Wow! You just blew my mind with that.

24:18 So let's go to George Papadopoulos. Uh-oh. Who I believe was actually extracted. And that's why he had... Okay, give me Papadopoulos. Okay, political science from DePaul University. He speaks Arabic, English, French and Greek. Later went on to earn an MS degree in security studies at the University College London, which is the key here because remember both Papadopoulos and Page were in London. London is the number one place for globalists to train their people.

24:56 That's where the Rhodes Scholars go. The whole thing is London based and that's all about globalism. So he was with the Hudson Institute. And then according to records, Papadopoulos was recruited to join Trump's foreign policy advisor team in early March 2016 by Sam Clovis. And then what, so he gets into the team and then the next thing you know he's sending emails concerning Putin to at least seven campaign officials. Clovis as Trump National Campaign co-chairman encouraged Papadopoulos to fly to Russia to meet with agents of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Between March and September 2016,

25:35 Papadopoulos made at least six requests for Trump or representatives of his campaign to meet in Russia with Russian politicians. Of course, none of them bit on this. And so then you go look at Sam Clovis, who is actually the undersecretary of something, agriculture under Trump's. This guy, US Air Force lifer, ends up going to Golden Gate University. starts with political science, receives an MBA from Golden Gate University, attends a national security program at Georgetown. Serves 25 years in the Air Force.

26:16 Then he ends up working for Booz Allen Hamilton, worked for Homeland Security Institute, under Homeland Security, takes Homeland Security Studies and Analysis, or joins the Homeland Security Studies and Analysis Institute. So this guy's a plant. He brings Papadopoulos in, and Papadopoulos starts the whole thing. Carter Page comes in. The whole thing is a complete scam. No, it's a setup. It's a setup. The memo is the scam. It's a setup, it's a setup. They're trying to get the meetings with the Trump administration is too bone, bone brain dead. They couldn't even figure it out. They couldn't figure it out. They're going, no, we don't want these meetings with the Russians. Oh, no, come on. Let's go have a meeting with the Russians. Let's fly to Russia. So the whole so it was a complete frame job.

27:03 Yeah. Let's play it again. Let's just play it one more time. Spot the spook. Spot the spook. Spot the spook. Everybody walk up to our little Noah Jenner nightclub where we spot spooks. Now how many of these so-called journalists out there have even mentioned Carter Page's background, let alone Clovis and Papadopoulos? Well, here's what's annoying because Carlson, Tucker Carlson, in his annoying way of trying to get people to answer a question they never will, which ruins his show, He has on several occasions said, you know, this guy was Naval Academy honors, but he never went into it. And so now just now that you set my mind straight on that, I appreciate it. The whole, the memo is maybe everyone was really worried. Here you go. Sources and methods. Maybe they were worried that it would come out that these guys were spooks and that they were essentially planted there.

27:59 To spy and to perhaps set them up. And then this memo was needed to cover up that job. Could be. All I know is these guys are very suspicious, all of them. And I think the Papadopoulos thing where he pleaded guilty to it. If you look at, go somebody, go look at this indictment. His indictment for lying to the FBI, I think was an extraction. It was to get him out of there. To get his. And bring him in as a source. I'm gonna do something that you always say but you can't do. I'm giving you a clip of the day for it. I got nothing better. I got nothing better than that for it. It's the highest award I can give. Well anyway, so let's go back to Papadopoulos has been extracted.

28:44 And I guarantee that lying to the FBI is a felony. This will not go on his record. This will not be a felony. He'll be dropped to a misdemeanor or something similar. But also, you know, if the guy truly is a Russian spy and he's been under investigation for, you know, since 2013, why isn't he in jail or at least in custody or something, further questioning? You can just let the guy walk around. You're talking about Page? Yeah, Page in this case. Yeah. Yeah, Page. Yeah, I know the whole things bull crap and the thing that's funny about page if you start looking at him. He's decided he's changed his style there's a number of reports about people reacting to him as a wackadoodle.

29:26 Another buddy called him an idiot because and I've seen him a couple of times and you wouldn't know he's a PhD from the University of London, globalist. But also Papadopoulos, if you recall, he spilled the beans while drunk in London, which again, if we know anything about CIA, they like to drink. Now that's not proof, but for him to do that in London and then spill the beans, it smells of a complete, complete setup. I hadn't even considered that. Jeez. Good one, John. This is why there's two of us. And why we never travel together or in the same room together. It's very important we stay separated. Oh my goodness. Okay, so now we have some stuff to investigate.

30:21 Yeah, this whole thing stinks. It stinks and the guy who stinks the most is Adam Schiff. Yeah, yeah, he must know. He knows everything. He knows this is a setup, it's not working. It's not working. Let's go to the PBS4 that wrapped this up. Had said Carter Page was no longer with them. Another example, Democrats insist the Steele dossier was only one factor in the surveillance and Republicans have left out the others. The FBI said today it takes its obligations in this area very seriously and that it was given only a limited opportunity to respond to this material.

30:59 What's next? The ranking Democrat on House Intelligence, Adam Schiff, is working to clear the release of a separate Democratic memo. For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Lisa Desjardins. So that is now what we're going to be dealing with for the foreseeable future. Everyone's going to have a damn memo, which has no legal standing. It's just a memo. Well, this memo, which is really is almost identical to what you predicted, not in so far as what it contained, but in its effect. its importance which is zero. Yeah. There's nothing in here that's setting the world on fire. Well, so wait a minute, so here's what's gonna happen. So now we get the Democratic memo and then, oh, there'll be more memos! And you know I've been saying this for a year now that there was no evidence of collusion. Are there other memos that are going to come out? Are there other memos? You said this was phase one.

31:55 Yeah, so this so this completes just the FISA abuse portion of our investigation. We are we are in the middle of what I call phase two of our investigation which involves other departments be blocked specifically the State Department and some of the involvement that they had in this that investigation is ongoing and we continue to work towards finding answers and and asking the right questions to try to get to the bottom of What exactly the State Department was up to in terms of this Russia investigation? Okay, so now we're gonna get a memo about the State Department. Ah, it's just gonna be a memo fest

32:31 everybody's got a minimum repopularize the whole idea of memos what that's right in my wheelhouse now tell me what is the actual function of a memo memo is usually a statement that is that's a good question by the way not a great question not a great one no it it itemizes explains and kind of summarizes some subject that you want people to understand better and it's supposed to do that and it usually goes out to a group of people sometimes to one person if it's a cover your ass man which is just the one or two people right and I've written those two just by accident but they're very valuable I saved a job I had in

33:15 This is one of my long stories that doesn't really fit in to tell here, but it's a useful function to write cover your ass memos, which is where you ask a lot of questions about something and you hope you don't get an answer. Ah, so a memo is something you put out there and you hope you don't get anything back about it. Well, no, a cover your ass memo. That's a cover your ass memo. Right. So this was maybe a cover their ass memo. Cover the spooks. I don't see any covering anything. Of the spooks. It didn't cover nothing. The whole thing is a cover your ass. Oh, about the Carter Page spooks and all the rest of them? Yeah. John, you blew my mind and I'm annoyed I didn't even catch it. So yeah, that to me, you know, framing Flynn. You know Flynn was framed.

33:56 Yeah. So that would make sense. Yeah, well, Flynn was always an enemy of the CIA. He's a DIA guy. Of course. He was a troublemaker. And we know that this is FBI, CIA. Nothing better than for the CIA to put a guy in to make the FBI look bad. I mean, it fits everything we've ever thought about. It really does. Pretty much. So there is a CIA guy on the House Intelligence Committee who's a Texas Congressman. Yeah, I don't like him. Heard. Yeah, black guy, right? Yeah, he's a black guy. He is a Silicon Valley douchebag as far as I'm concerned. He probably is. But he has some good interesting things to say because they brought him on the news hour on PBS.

34:41 And this is the man, he talks about the memo and he's all, it seems to me you might, if this was a setup on top of a setup, on top of a setup to make the FBI look bad in some circumstance. Hurd is playing a kind of a funny role here, but let's listen to this and see if we can deconstruct it. I spoke earlier with two members of that committee, starting with Republican Will Hurd of Texas. I asked him what information was so explosive to warrant releasing the document despite calls by the intelligence community to keep it classified. Well, I don't know if I would describe it with the adjective explosive, but what this information in the memo question asks is should federal law enforcement be allowed to use unverified information, circular reporting and rumors

35:34 in a Title III court to request a FISA warrants. And for me, this is about making sure that Congress is actually providing good oversight of our federal law enforcement. This is not, in my opinion, about the Mueller investigation. I believe Bob Mueller should be allowed to turn over every rock, pursue every lead to ensure that we know what the Russians tried to do in our elections. But this is Congress's responsibility to the American people to provide oversight and ensure that our civil liberties are being protected. I'm sure you know those who are defending the FBI here say that it did follow procedure very carefully and it relied on more than that controversial Steele dossier, so-called, to make its case.

36:25 And again, I expect them to make their case and to defend their actions. Whether or not other information was used is immaterial. The former director of the FBI himself said that some of the material that was used was salacious and unverified. And then another piece of information, the Yahoo News article, relied on that same information, which is circular reporting. And it was being used as confirmation of the original source. And then third, rumors. I'm sorry, what is the definition of circular reporting? You pointed this out the last time on the last show. We didn't have the term before, but you already pointed it out. This is where the CIA puts an article someplace else. Yes. Points to it.

37:11 Yeah, we just didn't know the name. Circular, yeah, you put it in the- And he's a CIA guy, so he knows what it's called because it's a term that's floating around the CIA. So circular reporting is a real thing. Yeah, so just to explain that, circular reporting is a very old trick where you get something into, let's say, the South African Times, which sounds pretty good and official, and it's an official newspaper, but an agent there on the ground will write the article. Then the New York Times is instructed to point to that article as, there's the fact, there's the truth, because the South African Times said so.

37:47 That's now it has a name, circular reporting. And yeah, and it's in their lexicon right now because it appears to have been used. Yes, I think that which is kind of a giveaway. That's why I like these clips because we get to pick up that I don't think they know they're giving away some of the secrets. That is actually a methodology secret that he gave up. Yeah, and we caught it right out of thin air. A fly ball. Fly ball. The clip's not over. I want to hear the rest. Okay, other information was used as in material the former director of the FBI himself said that some of the material that was used was salacious and unverified and then another piece of information the Yahoo News article was relied on that same information which is circular reporting and it was being used as confirmation of the original source and then third rumors from

38:43 from another host government, another government. So whether or not more information was used or not, to me is not the question. It's why was that kind of information used? And to me, as a professional intelligence officer, Judy, as you know, I spent almost a decade as an undercover officer in the CIA, protecting sources and methods, gathering information. You know, my job was to determine the difference between information and intelligence. And I was comfortable releasing this information because, as you've looked, none of this damages national security. Well, that is the argument Democrats are making, that this damages the intelligence community. It serves, does long-term damage to the agencies that do this fundamental work day in and day out.

39:32 According to the Book of Knowledge, circular reporting is a situation in source criticism where a piece of information appears to come from multiple independent sources but in reality comes from only one source. In many cases the problem happens mistakenly through sloppy intelligence gathering practices. However, at other times the situation can be intentionally caused by the original source. Right on. We go to part two of him. Yeah, fundamental work day in and day out. And I would disagree with that. This is not a criticism of rank and file members of the FBI. I've had the honor of serving side by side with them. This is about making sure the political leadership of these organizations are crossing every T

40:19 and dotting every I. We give a lot of responsibility and authority to the Department of Justice and FBI, and that authority every single time should be used appropriately. And I think this is a case where I'm firmly in opposition of using unverified information in a fiscal court. I still don't like him, although he gave us some valuable information there. That's appreciated. A couple of things that kind of irked me, and maybe I missed it if it was in the report. You may remember it being in there.

40:59 It's used to leverage the date, which of course I debunked by saying that the leverage of the date didn't mean anything because you can go backwards and forwards in time, of the Carter Page FISA warrant to listen to spy on him. Which is, my understanding is, is that they had tried to get a FISA warrant before this date a number of times. And they failed until they brought in the memo and the circular reporting. The dossier. The dossier, right, the dossier. Was there any mention of this initial failure in that memo? Yes, yes, I believe there was. But, you know, at this point we've heard so much, I'm actually looking at it right now, at this point we've heard so much that you don't even know.

41:47 Yeah, but where you read something where you heard something, but yes, I believe that was described in the memo Okay, well, that's good. I'm just looking real quick I don't see it, but just the fact that you've that this involves someone like David corn I mean that he's even mentioned in the memo just tells you right there. You can't take it seriously and And was steel like you know what kind of contact did he have with all these other news outlets? That's kind of interesting You know, he got $10 million from the law firm who the DNC hired, and he apparently also sold it to the FBI, which I think is double dipping. I'm not sure. Well, so yeah, hey, here's an X. Oh, I dropped a I dropped $1,000. Jake Tapper. This is the other thing that going around. I mentioned in the newsletter I wanted to mention on. I'd worked for a government agency for long enough to know this is the case. They're going on and on about Rosenstein and

42:50 call me and watch this ruining their morale the more out there were there these journalists and other analysts are pundits. They see these operations massive operations. Basketball teams. Oh the coach is being called the coach quit the coach quit What am I gonna do and they go on like you said like the coach of Michigan State leaves for some other school and all the basketball players are depressed about it You know all 12 of them. They're on a team or 15 and And that's not the case. When you're working for any agency, small or large, most of these guys at the top are perceived as the douchebags. Who gives a shit whether they get fired or not? Comey wasn't pals with the guys that were doing the day-to-day work. It's bull crap. I mean, the guy you're loyal to is maybe your immediate supervisor, the guy handling your group.

43:48 You know, who's never going to get his name in anything because he's just that too far down the ladder. And those guys, yeah, he is the basketball coach. But Rosenstein, McCabe, you know, this bull crap, anyone who's worked for the government knows it's bull crap. It's not ruining the morale of everybody that works in the FBI. No, it's just nonsense. If anything, I would actually argue the opposite. I would say that it is not ruining morale, it corrupts the organization. When you have the rotten top, and I've run companies and successfully and unsuccessfully, and I've seen what happens in corporate culture, you get shit at the top, it propagates down to the bottom. It really does. And so the whole FBI may be completely crap. This blanket, this is not about the rank and file, the rank and... Where does this phrase from the Shays come from? Rank and file?

44:40 Ooh, I mean this these are things we need to discuss. I mean you just hear rank-and-file. We got to look this one up. You're right Let me see if I can do it now. Okay. Yeah, we might as well do it now sure Right a phrase from the Shays rank-and-file Jean-Claude Dvorak Okay, let me look up the... What's the meaning of rank and file? This is a website called phrase.org

45:23 Which has to do with this, it specifically goes after these things. The ordinary members of a group as opposed to group leadership, that's the definition. What's the origin? Rank and file now refers to the ordinary members of any group and it originated as a military term. The rows and columns of soldiers drawn up for drill and not including officers were called ranks and files. There you go everybody Yes, this usage dates back to the 16th century whoo Yes, when we had rank-and-file on the battlefield, okay So back to my original premise this corrupts these organizations it really does and an FBI which actually I have a clip here from Philip Mudd who has been freaking out on CNN and

46:10 He likes to talk. He's an ex-CIA guy. Let's see what he has to say about this regarding the FBI. The president's talking about basically corruption at the FBI today, but we oppose the leadership. The workforce is going to look at this and say, this is an attack on our ability to conduct an investigation with integrity. There's hundreds of agents and analysts working on this investigation. It's not just Christopher Wray, the FBI director. So the FBI people, I'm going to tell you, are ticked. And they're going to be saying, I guarantee it, you think you can push us off this because you can try to intimidate the director? You better think again, Mr. President. You've been around for 13 months. We've been around since 1908. I know how this game is going to be played. We're going to win.

46:53 Yeah, all right. Yeah, 1908. He's full of shit that guy. Yeah, 1908. It did indeed started 1908 but it wasn't until 1917 that J Edgar Hoover came in and built his fiefdom and where we had the You know the commies and we had McCarthyism coming from the FBI from the FBI. Yeah, the FBI's done a good job of that well, they just Material just pulled out the old playbooks and hey Let's go back to 2013 and listen to Thomas Drake, the NSA, one of the three or four most famous NSA whistleblowers, when he was giving a speech to the National Press Club. And here's his FBI comments. After your experience, would you advise someone else in your position to blow the whistle on government wrongdoing? Yes, but make sure you understand what you're getting yourself into.

47:56 Do not speak to the FBI and make sure you have a lawyer right from the start. If my case is any example, they'll do everything they can to take anything you say and anything they find and use it to justify charges that in my case were actually framed. See, I told the truth to the FBI agents. They didn't believe me. In fact, four of the ten felony counts were for making false statements. One of them was for obstructing justice. You know why? Because a chief prosecutor said that unless I cooperate with the investigation, they're going to pursue prosecution. So...

48:37 The answer is yes, we actually need more. Having spoken to Daniel Ellsberg, he actually thought in the early 70s, with all the publicity that surrounded the Pentagon Papers, that more people would actually step forward. And other than some close colleagues and associates, guess what? Hardly anybody else stepped forward regarding the travesty of Vietnam. So there's your FBI. I actually have another FBI. I'm not here to slam the FBI, but I wanted to play one more FBI clip. Oh, what do they have on you? What do they have on me? Pussy. So let's play this clip. Now, I would like somebody to explain this to me. We all know about the guy, Nassar, that horrible doctor who was like fingering all the- Yeah, the FBI knew about this. FBI, this is Nassar abuse in the FBI. At least 40 girls and women say Larry Nassar molested them for over a year

49:30 his sexual abuse was initially reported to the FBI. The New York Times reported today that USA Gymnastics told the FBI of Nassar's abuse back in July of 2015. However, he wasn't publicly exposed until the Indianapolis Star published a victim story about 14 months later in September of 2016. In the meantime, Nassar continued to see young female athletes while working at Michigan State University. Over 250 people have accused Nassar of sexual assault. Yeah, I was reading this just this morning. I didn't have a clip so I'm glad you got that. What kind of boneheads are these guys that they let that go on for a year? I don't know. I do have thoughts about the idea of lying to the FBI as a felony

50:17 Or make his false statements, especially after the Drake thing where he actually told the truth because he was a whistleblower and he had truths to tell and they've caught they said no it's not true. They just decided that it wasn't true that it wasn't true because it was I guess far-fetched or they couldn't get confirmation or whatever. So this was a little this happened to Martha Stewart. Yeah, she just misspoke and she ended up in jail. Yeah, I The same thing. Why is this? Are you under oath? So you can't talk to the FBI ever, it seems to me, because you are apparently by some statute under oath, a perjury type problem. If you talk to the FBI at all and I and the Carter Page thing, not the Carter Page thing, but the the Babadopoulos thing, which is if you look at that indictment, he wasn't.

51:10 He wasn't under oath and what his mistake was he made a mistake of giving the wrong date for an incident. It was a wrong date. Oh, lying to the FBI. Right, well that was as you pointed out the extraction. Use anything. Yeah, you gotta get him out of there. Anyway, these guys are up to their ankles. Well, and it reinforces the CIA FBI meme that we've been looking at I do have two other clips of responses regarding the memo just some unhinged behavior Donnie Deutsch

51:49 Over there at MSNBC wasn't he an advertising executive. I probably asked this every time yes He was he was something like that. He was I remember back in the 90s You know we had our is famous think new ideas, and he was a oh Donnie Deutsch Donnie Deutsch Oh, yes, he knows everything about one of those pundit types like faith populism Yes, popcorn cocooning. We're cocooning. What happened? I remember the only thing from Faith popcorn was that She'd be her advice one of her great moments of it giving a lot of advice was and by the way I think if anyone takes this advice, it's is what's his name over at? Facebook the CEO they kid Zuckerberg Zuckerberg. Yes. He takes this advice and

52:31 Well, somebody pointed out that he buys one t-shirt and he just wears it forever. Her idea was if you find a dress you like, buy ten of them and just wear that dress. What happened to cocooning? It was such a good movement. That wasn't her whole book about cocooning? Yeah, cocooning. How'd that work out? Cocooning. Apparently it didn't help her career much. My leg is shaking. I know! I know! Go! Let it all out. Here's what's going on here. I want to talk about a memo. We've got a dozen instances of clearly the Russians colluding in this election with top Trump officials. Two have already been convicted.

53:08 We have a guy, a president, who clearly is owned by Putin. We have an investigation going. Okay, that's good news. We basically now have a press release that's been put out, that's been twisted and mangled, that now will give this president permission to fire Rosenstein, who will now take over this investigation. Our democracy is under siege. People need to start taking to the streets. This is a dictator. This is not something to analyze anymore. This is not a, oh, a good day for Trump. This is frightening stuff if you are an American. If you're somebody who's 80 years old and sitting at home and you've watched the greatness of this country, you should be terrified. And if you're a 12 year old and the future is in front of you, this is terrifying. This is not time to analyze and pundit.

53:53 people has cut away at the things that protect us. Half of this country thinks the media totally lies. At this point, 44% of this country doesn't trust the FBI. And guess what? A year from now, if this doesn't change, maybe this table's in trouble if we keep talking like this. I'm not being dramatic. This is what's happening, kids.

54:30 I mean, and this guy's winning. This wacky, orange, poofy-haired guy is winning this game. And we cannot depend on the Congress anymore. And if Rosenstein is fired, there needs to be people in the streets. Whoa! Okay, let's stop. Who was this guy? Donnie Deutsch. That was Deutsch? That was Donnie Deutsch. Wow, he's nuts. Yes. So we have a couple of interesting things. First, a memo that everyone's freaked out about that's going to destroy our the country if it ever was released because of, I don't know why, but that's what they were all saying. And now we have this situation because Rosenstein is now the target, supposedly, of all the

55:15 hate and vitriol. Well, no, the thinking is, ah, when they get Rosenstein, then Mueller can get fired. That's the whole thing. Well, when you listen to the PBS, I mean, they're not letting up on this. I mean, again, I still believe this is the globalists versus the people that believe in sovereignty for the United States, as shown by all these people doing work for the Council on Foreign Relations and working out of London. But so they had Schiff on to give his side of the whole thing. And I on the PBS show after the herd, they were not in this room at the same time, as it would have been interesting if it was. And so you end up

55:56 Unfortunately, they weren't. But I have the whole Schiff thing in a nutshell. He goes on and on about one thing or another, how they have to have their own, the Democrats have to have their own memo to counteract this other useless memo. But okay. And then I think this is really what, then Schiff ends with this. No, the goal here is to try to distract attention away from what the Russians did and what the Trump campaign may have done in combination with the Russians. Boom yeah boom come on Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia. Yes, nothing FBI Nothing FBI nothing England no UK I think it was an interesting point you made could be they were doing more meddling or the globalist for sure it's at least discussing since they wouldn't let Trump land and

56:43 Right, first they argued against Trump ever showing up and then they, now if Trump goes there's going to be huge amounts of protests so he can't really visit the country even though he's their closest ally. Yeah, and it's a security risk at this point as well. Yeah, it's a huge security risk. Who's behind all that? Oh here, I have it here. I think I found the... the clip. comical his words are poisonous Donald Trump is a buffoon daft and offensive nasty abusive racist tweets not a criminal a buffoon

57:41 Let us have the opportunity to challenge him and let him go home with his tail between his legs. And ultimately buffoonery should not be met with the blunt instrument of a ban, but with the classic British response of ridicule. I can, you know, thinking that MI6 is no different from our CIA and MI5, FBI, I can see them sitting there having a meeting. He's a buffoon! Let's screw him! That clip was people in Parliament voting on whether or not to ban Trump from entering the UK. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. And then they have a former agent meddling in our elections. Literally. Yeah. Just a thought. I got one last one just because I thought it was funny because it is a US congressman. We got to find out, this may be a very small guy.

58:42 I mean, size-wise. Tina pointed this out last night, we were watching him. Eric Solwell. He's from California. He's one of your representatives, John, out there. And let's do a quick search, see if this guy's like 4'9 or something. He has a really big head, which works well on TV. He's a very clean-cut kind of guy. What's his name? Swalwell. Swalwell. Swalwell. S-W-A-L-W-E-L-L. First name? Eric, with a C. Eric Swalwell, but when you look at his head, and then you see the shoulders like he must be very he looks very small It looks like a petite male. Yeah, that's I think you know I'm only bringing it up just because context is everything

59:27 And just because I want to ridicule him. But the clips... You like to do that. You're a big tall guy. You like to do that to little guys. I got some edge over some... You're heartless. That's right. Hell yeah. There's no evidence of his height. Randy Newman is my god. Okay. Here is him explaining to Tucker Carlson how this really went down. And remember, this is a person who represents people in the United States Congress. What specifically have I espoused that empowers threats to our country. You're peddling the narrative that the Trump administration is putting out, which also is the Putin narrative because they're retweeting this with their Russian bots. So I'm working for Putin? What?

1:00:13 I know he is explaining that the narrative gets retweeted by Russian bots, but just listen how he spews it out because that's all the information he really has. What specifically have I espoused that empowers threats to our country. You're peddling the narrative that the Trump administration is putting out, which also is the Putin narrative because they're retweeting this with their Russian bots. That's your representative out there. It's the Putin narrative because they're retweeting it with Russian bots. Didn't you know that? I can't find his height. Ah, damn it. But I will say, you know, Yahoo

1:00:56 You know, they are in the old New York Times building. These guys are all, they're all in the same boat. They're all, I'm sure they all know what's going on. I want to just re-emphasize what PBS did when they started that little discussion about the Russians. Yes, I will play it because I think it's well worth it. And I had the teaser. Yeah? Oh, the teaser. Oh, hold on. The teaser. What do you want, teaser first or the re-emphasis first? No, I don't need the re-emphasis. This is just a teaser just to show that they just... this is what they're going to tell you. This is the meme. Come on the NewsHour, two different takes on the now public memo about the Russia investigation. That was the teaser.

1:01:39 That's teaser and that's what they would that we already did the front thing too many times, but I'm just saying it's not about the Russian investigation No, it's a procedural issue Which is very important and I will say that get rid of this whole thing This this has to stop this section 702 this, you know sucking up everybody's data And by the way, we're doing it all to ourselves Yeah, this is about what this is about foreign intelligence something or other. It's about our own domestic spying. It's domestic spying for the purposes of political means. Yeah, for political reasons. Any reason, any reason other it's not really national security. And if I hear one more person say the Russians hacked our election, I'm going to puke.

1:02:26 I'm so tired of just, I mean, Auntie Maxine really, we don't have to play the whole thing but maybe we should. I finally found her response to the State of the Union. Oh right, I forgot she did one. Yeah, and it didn't air until the next day and it was Angela Rye apparently who was a commentator on CNN. She may still do that from time to time. She now has her own show on BET called State of the Union. State of the Union. Yeah, it is State of the Union. Is that what it's called? No, s- aw shit. Anyway, she has some kind of show over there and uh, that she brought Maxine on and you tell me when you've had enough of it but she just- Maxine, Miss Waters, goes through the entire list of- of stuff really from a year and a half to two years ago which

1:03:17 Is an irksome list because it's the things that we know have been debunked that were not true But they've been presented in such a way that they are now fact and accepted as fact. Oh, yeah, and she's yeah well We both hate it because we've both have suffered under this where a media meme gets out and then before you know it You know you're a dick because you did something or people. Yeah, my mouse thing the mouse your mouse story Yeah, that's that's a good example exactly I'm Maxine Waters, a member of Congress serving California's 43rd congressional district and the ranking member of the House Committee on Financial Services. Yesterday, Donald Trump had the audacity to call upon people to set aside differences when in reality he has divided Americans in ways no other modern president has done. Moderate. We must look at the state of the country.

1:04:16 I guess I'm not allowed to do that anymore, to harp on her poor command of the English language because it's racist. She said moderate? Moderate, yeah, moderate. Okay. Yeah, you're racist for saying that. Yeah, she really does not have proper command of the English language and I find it also annoying. That's not a good example. Committee on Financial Services. Yesterday, Donald Trump had the audacity to call upon people to set aside differences when in reality he has divided Americans in ways no other modern president has done. We must look at his State of the Union address in the context of all of the ways he defined himself during his campaign and throughout his first year as president.

1:05:04 Donald Trump defined himself in his response to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville when he defended white supremacists. Yeah, and the KKK. Yes, and the KKK. Yeah, he never defended any either this bullcrap, but it's you're right It's become fact it continues even after a young woman Protesting against racism was killed by a white supremacist. No. No, she had a heart attack None of that was good and by the way We never talked about the the guy who was chasing the guy in the car with a shotgun. I

1:05:43 And whatever happened to that guy? Did he just disintegrate? The guy who drove the car, seriously. What happened to him? He probably got it, you know, they put him in front of a judge and they found out what the real story was and they let him go. That's what happened. I'd like to know what happened to him. Well, they're not going to report that. It doesn't fit the narrative. Which is being retweeted by Russian bots. After Trump defended white supremacists, targeted Muslims with his travel ban. targeted Muslims with his travel ban. You could say countries, but okay. Described Mexicans as rapists and mocked people with disabilities. Well, if that's true, it was only one, and it was not people, it was a reporter, so dubious. It's impossible to believe him when he tries to declare that he wants to bring the country together.

1:06:38 One speech cannot and does not make Donald Trump presidential. This is because she's irked that he got high numbers even from negative number touting outlets. No, no, one speech, that one speech doesn't do it people. He's not presidential and he never will be presidential. He claims that he's bringing people together, but make no mistake. He is a dangerous, unprincipled, divisive, and shameful racist. Trump often works to convince dissatisfied elements in our society that all of their problems are caused by people of color.

1:07:20 He stokes racial... What? Yeah, I'll wind that up. Where did he do that? Let's see. He claims that he's bringing people together, but make no mistake, he is a dangerous, unprincipled, divisive and shameful racist. Racist. Trump often works to convince dissatisfied elements in our society that all of their problems are caused by people of color. This is to make him Hitler, because Hitler did that with the Jews. I don't think I ever heard him say, America, your problem is black America. Maybe I missed it. He stokes racial animosity by referring to black NFL players as sons of bitches and demonizing immigrants from Haiti and Africa.

1:08:14 This president, with his vulgarity and his disrespect for women and people of color, is a terrible role model for our children. Whenever he appears on TV, There should be a disclaimer that says this may not be acceptable for children. Okay, I'm not against that. I think that would be funny because more kids would want to see it. Not only has Donald Trump failed on domestic policy, he is leading us in the wrong direction in the world. He withdrew the United States from the Paris Agreement on climate change despite the participation of nearly every country in the world.

1:08:57 He routinely insults our democratic allies while showing admiration for dictator Vladimir Putin, despite the fact that Russia interfered with our election and undermined our democracy. He refused to certify the Iran nuclear agreement. I mean, you want to hear the rest of it? I mean, just she's just drones. I'm sorry. I know you all you when you do this, you always make a mistake. You don't, you know, you say just let it play until you want me to stop and I... Oh, if you like it, it's good. Then let's go. I enjoy listening to what she has to say. Okay.

1:09:36 Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Oh, nuclear weapons. He is isolating us with his inept trade policies, withdrawing the United States from trade agreements without negotiating viable alternatives. My remarks today are not merely a response to this President's State of the Union Address. They are a warning to the American people, a warning that this president does not deserve to represent us, and that he's taken America down the road to isolation and division. Donald Trump constantly brags about himself, but he does not take the time to learn about public policy or study the many challenges facing the United States and the world, and he has no understanding of true leadership.

1:10:25 He attempts to take credit for economic growth, but refuses to acknowledge that he inherited our nation's thriving economy from our nation's first black president. Under President Obama, the unemployment rate fell from 10 percent to 4.8 percent, and the African American unemployment rate fell 9 percentage points. Unfortunately, the Republicans in Congress, led by Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, are terribly irresponsible in the way in which they enable him and refuse to confront him.

1:11:02 and they have abdicated their responsibility to the citizens of this nation by condoning his actions. We, as Democrats, are committed to a growing economy that leaves no one behind. We're committed to an economy that protects consumers. Yeah, now's the whole pitch for the Democratic Party. And provides good jobs. All right, you can stop it now. We know the pitch. Those days are over. They called you out on Fox tonight. Hit it! Maxine! Maxine! Maxine! So to wrap this up, John, I'm looking now at the testimony, the Fusion GPS testimony, which, you know, this was released and this is much more interesting than the memo.

1:12:00 So the law firm that paid him, really passing on money from the DNC and the Hillary campaign, if there's a difference, that's Perkins Coie. Is it C-O-I-E? How do you pronounce that? Coie? I don't know how you pronounce it, but they're up in Seattle. Okay. So their banking records were also subpoenaed, and in the transcript of this case, there are three Three names have been redacted and the amounts, although all the other amounts seem to be around $100,000. I'm just going to read a little bit from this since we haven't done that. Plaintiff's interactions with media entities will provide equally pertinent investigative leads. Here we go. For example, the committee has information that plaintiff, that would be Steele. Yes, brokered meetings. No, not Steele. Well, Steele was sued. Right.

1:13:03 I think Fusion GPS. Yeah, Fusion GPS. The committee has information that plaintiff brokered meetings for dossier author Christopher Steele with at least five major media outlets in September 2016, including Yahoo News, which specifically reported on the facts, citing information it received from a quote, single well-placed Western intelligence source. The additional transactions requested by the Committee therefore include transactions related to plaintiff's work on behalf of another media outlet in which plaintiff could have ceded its research. Media company a and that's redacted additionally the committee seeks transactions related to three individual journalists Redacted each of whom have reported on or have been quoted in articles regarding topics related to the committee's investigation Some of which were published as recently as October 2017 I feel we need to know what names they are if it's possible to do so we probably deduce their names Yes, but but you know, this is the part. I mean, why wouldn't you name them?

1:14:05 I think this is getting pretty important now. Is it possible that there are actually spooks? And they can't list spooks and places crawling with them. Man, you are on fire today. And with that. I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. What is these dance for constructing memos? Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry in the morning all boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to everybody in the troll room no agenda stream.com some problems with the chat widget today So it may not have as many trolls. It's actually kind of quiet. Trolls are... The chat widget. Not enough trolls.

1:14:44 The troll room is bare. That's very sad. They're all getting ready for the Super Bowl. They are indeed. And in the morning to Comicstripblogger, he brought us the adorable, just adorbs, artwork. This is how we talk these days, John. Adorbs. Adorbs. It's adorbs. The adorbs artwork. Adorbs. Hell yeah. Oh yeah. You don't have sushi, you have soosh. It's delish. Soosh, man. I gotta send some soosh. Soosh is delish. You've heard this. I know I'm not alone in recognizing this. I had, I was at, yeah, I had, I was down when I was in LA recently, I was having something to eat with the Victoria Reconyo and my producer Jennifer. And well, she's, we're sitting there at this, at some little place and she uses the word delish. Oh yes, she would use that word. Oh yeah.

1:15:44 And of course I called her out on it. Yes. Because I'm a douchebag. I'm calling people out when they say delish in front of me. You see, you're doing it wrong. We just got to go right back at him and start using words like, oh yes, that's adorbs. Adorbs. That's a new one. And dits. I say dits instead of ditto. Dits. Well, that's a double entendre. I know, I'm a podcaster, so there you go. Alright, so we have a few people... I want to thank Commissar Blogger, he did the artwork for episode 1004, Micro Livestock, was a very sad looking bug being eaten.

1:16:21 As Nicole Kidman does and we appreciate the work that Commissary blogger did and all of our artists All of our artists do go to no agenda art generator comm that's where you can look at all the arts It's upload your own if you want. We should we usually choose it right after the show We use it for newsletters for pre-announcements and it's also on clothing and mugs no agenda shop comm which benefits the show the shop and the artists and Thank you all for your courage So I'm gonna propose a change in the structure of today's show. Whoa! Format change? Mid-show? Well, just a one-time only. One-time, one-time only promise? I want to do both donation segments at once because the total of donations that we have to read is only 23. It's pathetic.

1:17:18 Yeah, but that kind of messes up the blockage man. I got birthdays. I got a nighting You could do the birthdays and I do the whole thing right? Why do you want to why do you want to do that? I because there's only 23 it's just like No, but it's we need the break in the show as a natural. Okay, everybody heard me overruled vetoed. All right, here we go We have a couple of we have an interesting donation off the top here, which is seven hundred seventy dollars from Man, Chef Rob. Robble Abbey. Robble Alley? Chef Rob.

1:17:55 Oh, but he's splitting it into two. It's a double de-douching for Adam C. Banks and Chef Rob. Rob Lee. You've been de-douched. Maybe it's Robo. Robo. Double de-douche. You've been de-douched. Okay, so he has a it was a complicated situation. He said to the old thing and became a pain in the ass, but he's getting credit for this. He also wanted to call out another chef. Oh whose name I keep forgetting here. Do do do do do.

1:18:45 Chef Rob McHugh is a douchebag. Now Rob, who was at the meetup in New York, he claimed, this other chef, there's a chef royale going on here. These are all celebrity style chefs. McHugh, he's famous, this guy's famous. They're all kind of TV. Chef Rob is famous? Yeah, he is kind of famous. Chef Rob McHugh is a reality TV chef to helm new gastro pub in Upper West Side. So he's got something going on there and maybe we can get a free meal. I gotta go to New York.

1:19:24 And now this chef, Chef Robly, or his name is Blah-Blah-Dakis, I believe, is, they're all, I don't know if they all hate each other, or they love each other, or they're calling each other out, but they all listen to the show. So we have a bunch of chefs listening to the show. Well, Ian, that's because of you, my friend, because they listen to you. You go, wrong again, Dvorak! Yeah, well, there's that. You're just sitting there, wrong again. He said, what about Beaujolais? Oh, I'll bet she's never been there. You're wrong again, Dvorak. How is Mordor going and has that status? This is what happened. I used his email. Let's see if I got a note from here. He wanted to be, I think we got him. He's got his call ups. He doesn't have a request for anything. So if he does have a request, he can get in later and we'll run it for him. So that's our top donor. Well, thank you, chef. What is the name of his restaurant? Let's plug his restaurant. Thank you. He's right now, I think he's a caterer. He's in between restaurants? I think he's a caterer at the moment.

1:20:26 He doesn't never send us our restaurant. So we'll we'll plug all these chefs restaurants on our future show Yes, so since that is what you want plugged McHugh, you know, he's a Bravo guy Bravo TV Oh and she and he's also Rob McHugh chef Rob Lee and do they have any do these guys have cookbooks I can purchase I've really gotten into cooking from books I know it's irksome to you, but some people don't have that natural chemical talent you have Love will catch up to all these guys. All right I'm looking here at a picture of Rob McHugh. He has a mohawk and his shirt is out. The chef with a mohawk. Nice, nice, nice. Alright. No Agenda Chef. He's the official chef of the No Agenda Show. Well he is, even though he never has donated. Or has ever cooked anything for us. None of these guys have.

1:21:24 I have a great, this one I have to say, this is a great recipe. I have a great recipe for a broccoli soup using ginger and what's the orange? Bergamot orange. It's unbelievably flavorful. I'll be publishing that shortly. Yeah, let's publish that. That sounds good. And I have a vegan version. I've decided I'm gonna make all my recipes vegan. Oh, I smell a book. Yeah, another book that you'll never see. Yeah. The vegan yuck book. Just use the words I smell. Okay. Black Knight, Sab Swiss, 501.

1:22:11 To make it short, with this donation I will become a baronet. I'd like to ask for some job cover from my very close friend Daniel. I see this. Thank you. You know what I didn't do? I didn't readjust the spreadsheet. I'm sure I'm asking you to do it all at once. Okay, I got it. Daniel Boone, and to tease him a bit, please also play the jingles Trump is president and Putin's don't worry be happy. Thank you very much, Black Knight, Sob Swiss, and I think 501 is that related to 105 backwards? Was that part of our promotion? I like it. Not that I know of. I like it. Don't worry, don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs!

1:23:12 You've got karma. Okay, Black Knight, that was Black Knight, Sab Swiss, 501 from him. We got Sir Bram of the Upper Candanavias, our Associate Executive Producer. We only have three total. 233.33, TDI as part of a mission scandal after five years got back 80% of original purchase price. Please get, whoa, that's nice. Have you seen that new documentary on Netflix about this called Dirty Money? No. Oh my god. This is really a story. It goes much further than just what has really been reported. Of course it starts off with, the Volkswagen invented by Hitler. Woohoo! He got 80% back from his original purchase price. That's fantastic. That's fantastic.

1:24:03 No, it's a no please no wonder we gave it to 233 bucks. Please get a shape-shifting Jew and karma for all sir Bram You've got karma That's it. That's all we got. I would have continued, but you know the idea so I can't. I have vetoed it. And it's for programming, man. It's for programming. That would be a little more liberal.

1:24:48 A little more liberal? Or we could like do stuff, you know what I mean? Hey man, hey man. Change things as we go along because it's like, you know, it's art. Hey man, no, listen man, Putin... Not so rigid. Putin paid me to podcast, baby, so, you know, I gotta stick to the program. So, thank you very much, executive producer and two associate executive producers. It is appreciated that you were there bringing us some value for the value you have received and we are very appreciative We'll be thanking a few more people $50 and over apparently about 20 in our second segment known as the d-block meantime remember to tune in Thursday when we celebrate our correct prediction about the Super Bowl to vorac.org slash and a

1:25:29 You can use this today when you're huddled around your little telescreen. Tell them about the show. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up, lady! Squirrel! Shut up, snake! Oh, I wanted to add something to the Trump rotation list. Yeah, which apparently we also have a domain name. It's not forwarding yet, but the trump list calm someone created that think Chris Wilson Sir Chris there in Australia Oh Chris, I'll send you the list. Yeah that well no one okay? Yes, well you could just make a dot HTM page, and you could forward to it. That's what I'm gonna do Okay, I'll send him to yeah. Yeah, yeah worse than Nixon

1:26:21 Oh yeah. I've heard a lot of this. Worse than Nixon. Worse than Nixon. Worse than Nixon, yeah. Also, you know, I've been tracking the LGBTQQIAAP acronym for a long time. Yeah. In fact, I think this show has the longest history of tracking this acronym. Yeah, I... Yes, definitely. We now add a K to the mix. A K. The K? Yes, so it now is LG- Nights? No agenda nights? I wish. LGBTQQIAAPK. And the K is for a group of homosexual men who identify as kink. Aren't they just homosexual men? No, kink. It's like you can identify- They're different? Yes, you can identify as queer.

1:27:17 So we have lesbian, gay, bisexual, bi-curious, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allied, pansexual, and kink. Notice the only thing in there is... What does a kink do that makes them special? You know, I just listen to my gay sources and I just take it as fact. You get to wear a certain colored handkerchief in your left back pocket Let me see if I can find anything on the book of knowledge for this. Ah yes kink okay This is people who are into men men men men. Oh geez whoo, okay? That didn't want to see that page. I do not wreck. I do not recommend searching for this Yeah, it's I think it's a bondage like men have no no love no anything just bondage

1:28:14 I don't know, we should get a full-on description. I'm sure we have kinks in our audience. We probably do. So if you're kink, let us know exactly how you identify. Yeah, we want a clean, safe for the kiddies, memo describing a situation at a high level. A memo. We want a memo. We want a memo with a subject line. Actually, this was kind of more for the donation segment. I held on to it. You know, What's his name? Peterson, the Candanavian professor? Yeah, he sent me his book and signed it. Oh nice. I couldn't even get Scott Adams to sign his book for me. Good work. Well, I got a book from Adams too and I didn't get it signed. It came from Central Casting. They didn't, it never showed up as Scott's book. That's the problem. So he was on the Joe Rogan show and I have to have a clip from it because

1:29:09 You know, speaking of value for value, you know, so the way he makes money now is, although we think it's not a good idea to use a third party like this, but he is kind of using the value for value model and he's doing it through Patreon. And apparently it's working out quite well. So whenever, and you can read, you can just see how much money someone, you know, how much money is committed to somebody on a monthly basis or episodic basis or however that works. He's doing about last time. I checked about sixty five thousand dollars a month not bad No, that's good But he discussed this on Joe show if they let me speak then I get to speak and then more people support me on patreon It's like hmm. That's annoying. It's like goddamn capitalist. He's making more money off this ideological warfare. It's like okay fine Let's go protest. They go protest me and then that goes up on YouTube and then my patron

1:29:57 Account goes way up. So it's like they don't know what to do. And so one of the things they keep accusing me of yeah, they keep accusing me of Like hauling in the loot and I think well look here's the situation guys. I give away everything I do online for free It's free And people are giving me money. They're just sending it to me. I'm not twisting their arm, not even asking them for it. Well, I guess that's not exactly right because I set up the Patreon account, but that's more complicated than it looks. A lot of that was curiosity. Now here's the money quote. I figured out how to monetize social justice warriors. Joe Rogan, the modern Oprah everybody. Go cry at Joe's.

1:30:42 But good for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know we were talking about the promise what happens in patreon goes belly-up. Patreon is not the way to go. So we were our producer there had gotten 85% of his Volkswagen, his five-year-old VW, he had gotten that back. They were forced to buy back. They were forced to buy back half a million cars. Yes, and they're still doing fine. Well, but here's the latest news. German car makers including Volkswagen are under fire for reportedly funding experiments which tested diesel exhaust fumes. on monkeys and humans. According to the New York Times, a study was carried out in 2014 designed to defend diesel fumes, which were earlier revealed to be carcinogenic. The experiment reportedly made 10 monkeys in airtight chambers inhale fumes from a diesel Volkswagen Beetle. Oh man.

1:31:36 They can't get a break over there. No, well, they're doing that kind of, kind of, where's, where's Mengele to help them do those experiments? But, you know, just a little, a little tip from your No Agenda podcast, knowing a lot about the cosmetics industry, you know, there's always been, oh, you know, they tested on animals. If you come across any cosmetics that say animal friendly, you can bet that they're tested on animals. But it's just a great marketing ploy and I know that it's done and I've seen it and I understand how it works. So they do test on animals, but they say it's animal friendly. I've never seen that moniker, but I've seen that not no animal testing used. That's different. Sure, sure, sure. But if it says animal friendly, then you know it's a big scam. Well, either that or it's makeup that can be used by animals. Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. But the implication is, oh, it's, you know, it's always friendly, not friendly, not tested. Oh, yeah, that's all good. Right. OK, we have some actually I should do the

1:32:41 And now it's time for your sexual harassment update. That's right, time for your sexual harassment update. It all started with Harvey Weinstein, which to revisit, we believe was outed to stop Hillary Clinton from getting involved in running for the 2020 election. Don't think that worked out too well. No, it didn't work at all. She's still running. Ready for Hillary. So we had a new story come out. We were kind of waiting for Uma Thurman to tell us what happened to her. We had seen her previously saying I'm too angry to talk about it now and apparently she was now ready. The latest high-profile figure to step forward, Uma Thurman, accusing Mr. Weinstein of assaulting her in the 1990s and there has been, as I was saying earlier, some reaction to that from his people.

1:33:32 Yes, that's right. I mean, if you cast your minds back to the mid-1990s and the film Pulp Fiction, which famously starred Uma Thurman, and many would argue was perhaps the film that more than any other put Miramax Films, the company run by Harvey Weinstein, on the map. He produced that film. Now, what Uma Thurman has said in a newspaper interview is that in the aftermath of that, in hotel rooms in both London And in Paris, Harvey Weinstein, she alleges, tried to force himself on her. In fact, in the interview, she described wriggling away from him, she said, almost like a lizard, and making good her escape. Now, Harvey Weinstein, through his spokesman, has said that any incident that took place was a result of him misreading her signals. And afterwards, at 2001 Cannes Film Festival, when Quentin Tarantino challenged him about it, he apologised to him at Thurman.

1:34:27 And so the account of that is really nasty. Well, that's not the story I got. Oh, what did you get? This is a slightly different story. That one makes it that one was a very positive story. And so far as Tarantino is involved, this one here is not. An actress, Uma Thurman, is accusing Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein of sexual misconduct. Thurman told The New York Times that Weinstein made unwanted sexual advances towards her in London back in the 1990s. Weinstein has denied all of the allegations. She also says that rejecting those advances impacted her relationship with director Quentin Tarantino. While their relationship was under strain, she claims Tarantino forced her to perform a dangerous car stunt while filming the movie Kill Bill Volume 1. She crashed the car into a tree and was hospitalized with damaged knees and a concussion. It's a slightly different take. Yeah, yeah, it's a different... Well, the first one was from the BBC. It has to be kind of proper over there.

1:35:23 But the victim, and I feel really bad for Rose McGowan, who, you know, was she not ground zero of the Harvey Weinstein allegations? At this point. I believe so. Well, she's definitely the one who came out with the most material and she was the one who was raped. Yes, and she is under fire I mean, I have three clips here, and really what is happening to this woman is beyond I mean, I fear for her, but she doesn't look like she's taking any of this very well. She has a book called Brave, which she was out at Barnes & Noble, and she's getting attacked from all sides, strangely enough. Yeah, she is getting attacked a lot. She's getting attacked by the trans community, who I guess feel that she's not saying... This also happens to trans women. I can see no other reason for them to do it.

1:36:20 heckler which she dealt with and then you can just feel the she's very yes before you play that I agree that we should listen for this is I haven't heard this clip but I do know that she thinks the heckler was bought and paid for by could be then where'd you hear this It was just one of the things passing through the gossip channels. Although what the heckler says is true. Trans women, men who have transitioned to women, are being killed, they're being attacked. It's definitely dangerous in certain places to be a trans woman, so there's no doubt she's

1:36:56 She's saying something that's true, but... But she got to do it in the gowen. Exactly. And really the point is, you know, you're not talking about us. No, I'm sorry. I think she had said on RuPaul... Why do I even know this? On Cory Booker's podcast, actually it was really RuPaul's podcast, not RuPaul Booker, that, well, you know, trans women don't really know what it's like to be a woman, to go through a sexuality change, menstruation, and a lot... You know, so it was... You and I can't really discuss this, we can't look at it from any angle, but I think that angered a group. I have a suggestion, talk about what you said on Ruth Paul. Trans women are dying, and you said that we as trans women are not like regular women. We get raped more often. We go to domestic violence more often. A trans woman was killed here a few blocks.

1:37:48 I have been followed home. So have I. So have I. We're the same. My point was we are the same. There's an entire show called ID Channel, a network dedicated 24 hours a day to women getting abused, murdered, sexualized, violated. And you are too, sister. It's the same. And trans women go through domestic violence and you do nothing for them. Trans women are in men's prisons. And what have you done for them? What have you done for women? Lots of things. This is just interesting and she'll go into she's really angry now but

1:38:42 The idea is that cis feminism is hurting transgender women. I mean what we're seeing here is more evidence that even if you want to be a woman, women really don't get together well either. Men don't suck women don't suck all people suck, but this idea that women will all stick together. It's proof that it's not happening Some language in this planet leave me alone I do not subscribe to your rules I do not subscribe to your language You do not put labels on me

1:39:24 What I do is for the fucking world and you should be fucking grateful. So shut the fuck up. Get off my back. I know what I've done, god damn it! I'm not worried, I'm fucking mad for the lies. I'm mad at the stereotypes. I'm mad that you put shit on me because I have a fucking vagina and I'm white or I'm black or I'm yellow or I'm purple. Fuck off! All of us want to say it! I just do! I thank you. I'm very happy she just said that. She's probably the only person now who can say these things, and she is. You know, stop identifying me by what I have between my legs, really. My color of my skin. Yeah. And there's a reasonably long piece that I think ABC did on Rose McGowan, and I have two clips from this.

1:40:22 And this first one sets up the second one. Your former Charmed co-star, Alyssa Milano, gets a lot of credit for helping me to go viral. So? Are you proud of her? I don't like her. Why? Because I think she's a lie. Why? Do you think I don't know these people? I'm not looking at this from the outside. I have a lot of experience. I know she's married to a CAA agent. Do the math. Who's behind Time's Up? CAA. Where do they meet? CAA. Who needs good PR? CAA. Who are part of the pimp problem, CAA. These are very powerful people you're talking about. They are. So am I. So she, now we've been looking for the agency that was behind a lot of this. And Marky Mark's agency, which turns out to be CAA, and she believes that, and I'll get into the second clip in a minute, she believes that CAA is really a big player in the Harvey Weinstein setups for all of these women.

1:41:25 The thing I wanted to point out is when you hear her speak in this piece, doesn't it sound exactly like when we listen to CSI Miami? Doesn't it sound just like it's acted? I'm not saying she is, but it just it hit me. It's like, wow, this sounds like one of those really bad TV shows you like to play clips from. Yeah, it does a little bit now that you mention it. Let me see if I can find an example. Here's an example. We have one hour to discover which of these PE devices is capable of... Nah, it's gotta be one of those soft-spoken clips. That would be CSI Miami. That'd be the best. No, that's the cyber one. I don't... They've got a lot of these, interestingly enough. I do. Let me see if we have a CSI Miami. No, we don't. Just listen to her again, though. Just for a second.

1:42:15 Why is this not working? I'll grab some CSI. Yeah, you should. Listen to this. I'm not looking at this from the outside. I have a lot of experience. I know she's married to a CIA agent. We have to arrest them. Do the math. I will. I'll do the math. Who's behind Time's Up? Rotate. CIA. Wait, I mean CIA. Zoom. I like the way she says CAA as though it sounds like CIA. Maybe that's purposeful. Here's the full segment about what I would just call allegations. I feel like people are dancing on our graves. People in fancy dresses. So now she's referring to the Golden Globes. Remember I said these activists that look like Bring Your Negro to Work Day, which was really offensive to me, the whole thing.

1:42:59 It turns out that was pretty much true. It's just it was all set up set up by CAA They started the times up. They have they've co-opted me too Why? You'll hear. People in fancy dresses Black of course posing and living it up on the red carpet and the black stupid clothes that the stupid men wore It's a lie and I knew they were going to trot the activists out there for PR. It was one of the most important nights of the Me Too movement. Hollywood's biggest stars wearing black at the Golden Globes to rail against the system that allegedly allowed sexual misconduct to fester for decades. Yet one of the most crucial people in this saga wasn't there. Rose McGowan. For her, that night was all for show.

1:43:48 Every time I thought about those black dresses, I would get a body flashback every time. Even right now. What do you mean by a body flashback? I can feel him there. This is an international rapist, okay? This is the truth of what it is. This is an international rape factory. Every single place he ever stayed, there were people there set up to help him rape. This is how it went. This is what it was. People, women, girls would be said, oh, you have a meeting or come to a party, they would show up and that party is just him. Who got them there? Who are the assistants? You're saying there was a machinery. So I'm saying there's a massive machinery. He is a sociopathic predator. He thinks he's done nothing wrong. I wish just one person would have stood up and said no more because so many people had so many chances to put a stop to this. I like the international rape machine.

1:44:39 That that well we have discussed this before which is that there were enablers mostly women. Yeah that were part of the scheme, but You know it is foolish to think that the CIA you brought it up is not involved in Hollywood movies we know they are we know that they find a cargo yeah, well that was the funny thing about Argo I will mention I've mentioned when it happened and Argo was directed by... what's his name of the duo? Ben. Ben. Ben. Who? Affleck. Yeah, Affleck. It was directed by Affleck. It was CIA funded, I believe. CIA and State Department. It said it right in the credits. Thanks to Huma Abedin.

1:45:26 It got nom... Yes, it got nominated for Best Picture, Best Actress, Best This, Best That, but not Best Director. Fuck that guy. He can... It was pretty much... It was pretty much a rejection of the fact that, okay, we'll let you go this far, but you're not getting an award for this movie, this CIA film. And it won Best Movie. Did it? Yeah, remember Michelle Obama with that whole awkward... She gave the... gave the award from, she had two military guys there and she did it from the White House. Oh yeah, it was like a big, big blow job for Ben. Ben's big blow job. There's a reality show for you. But anyway. Yes, I would say why wouldn't the CIA be involved? So when Rose McGowan is saying, CAA, CAA, CAA, yes it's CAA, and maybe that's all a joke too. You know how they're always like, hey, we'll have an agency, we'll call it CAA.

1:46:26 But the traffic the trafficking of women through modeling agencies and talent agencies is well known Just one of those things people don't talk about because they work in the business And they don't want to get kicked out of the business So you're thinking that because she's so adamant about discussing this like a maniac They're gonna drug her or have her say something stupid and then shoot her. Oh, man. I hope not This is a woman in peril. She needs help. She really does does she have a patreon? Final clip today. No, I'm serious. It's messed up. Then she this she needs help. She really does. She's on edge and it's gonna be one of these things. Every time I've seen her recently she is so nervous and she seems like she's on the edge of a nervous breakdown. Yes, and I feel bad. Look at what's happened. I'm pretty sure she came out with the first allegations against Weinstein.

1:47:21 And then she's been pushed to the side, doesn't get invited, you know, shut up, go away, no work. But she's definitely not going to get work. No, she gets heckled, you know, it's... I'm saying we never... it's always, oh, oh, well, like Amy Winehouse, you know, until she died. Oh, boo-hoo, if only we knew, you know. Here's Katie Royf. A few months ago... She is a well-known feminist. Yeah, you want to say something? No, it's just that noise you made is a variation on the stand of the classic. Well, is it usable? I think it might be. You might as well put it down. I put the point down. Okay. Katie Royf. She's a well-known feminist and she is under fire. A few months ago, Harper's Magazine asked me to write an article on the Me Too movement.

1:48:12 I'm a feminist writer and professor who's disagreed with other feminists in the past. Usually, people wait to read what I have to write before getting angry about it. Not this time. Before the magazine article had even been published, thousands of people took to Twitter, furious at me for rumors about what might be in the piece. Total strangers called me a garbage person, a ghoul, Human scum. They threatened that my career was over and said obscene things not fit for Sunday morning or any morning. My children, of course, were reading and hearing all of this. What was my crime? Having doubts about the excesses of Me Too even as I shared its goals. Departing slightly from the officially accepted feminist position. What happened to speaking my truth? It felt like there was a mob with torches outside my window.

1:49:07 In his novel, 1984, George Orwell created a phrase for my accusers, thought police. If we as a culture are going to sort through the very tangled question of what constitutes an abuse of male power, we need to be able to hear, really hear, lots of different opinions. Is asking a woman for her phone number an abuse of power? Does the distinction between sleazy behavior and a criminal act matter? Is it okay to try people in the press? Lots of good and reasonable people will disagree about the answers to these questions. If we want a true reckoning, it means listening to authentically conflicting points of view from both women and men.

1:49:50 Anyone whose feminist activism consists largely of hurling abuse at other women might want to take a look in the mirror. If we are calling other women human scum because they have ideas or politics that are different from ours, are we any different from Trump supporters tweeting, lock her up at Hillary Clinton? With their politics of personal destruction, the hate and nastiness and name-calling, are these Twitter feminists any less bullying than the people we say we oppose? Isn't silencing women what we're fighting against? Well, you know, I'm going to stop this whole discussion and right away say none of this would be happening if it wasn't for Facebook and Twitter. I totally agree. Especially Facebook. And actually all of this, all the hate and everything really lives much more on Facebook and online than in the real world. People aren't real, I mean do you see people scouring at each other all the time on the street?

1:50:53 No, but I had this at this situation. I'm leaving the bank and some old homeless woman comes by a chatterbox to Well, yeah this case yes, and so she asked me for some money and so I gave her like, you know gave her Five or ten dollars or something. Yes. Oh, yes. Oh So she goes on, she says, thank you so much, you know, you're the only one. And she goes on, she says, everybody is so hateful. She says, all I do is get, when I wander around and I ask for, you know, I just want to get on the bus, I want to do this, I want to do that. Everybody hates, there's so much hate, you can't believe it. You have to be out here to experience it. And she went on and on and on and on about it.

1:51:38 to the bench. She of course thanked me profusely because I was the only one she'd run into I guess in months. Not a hater. Who was not a big hater. Well, hate of her? Hate, just hate. She said just a general, she said a general hate. Well, you know, she's out there so yes, she would know. Yeah, so maybe there is. Well, the only mistake you made is you didn't record it. That would have been a great interview. We could have done a whole... Now that you mention it, you're right. It was a complete botch. But I'll be more aware next time. Because I've recorded these people on the street, I do it, I've done it. You can go to my YouTube channel and you find two or three of them on there where I get some guy, I like the guy with the sign, I'll have him explain stuff. And they're entertaining, it's interesting. But I never thought of that and I didn't really have the gear with me, I didn't have my phone which has a recorder on it which is pretty good.

1:52:35 and I will say I will add as a no agenda tip if you're in dire straits and you need money the best place to stand is outside the bank This is a great idea because you just you just were in the bank you're surrounded by coin you walk out oh man I was just yeah and likelihood that you were there and you got some out of the ATM genius. Well the cops will bust you if you're hanging around an ATM but yeah anyway it was she said there's a lot of hate going on and she's well California I don't live in California so that could also be a little more special for

1:53:14 for that region. Could be. The United Republic of California. I know people drive with a little more hate. Yeah, well there's definitely hate from Elizabeth Warren. She's gearing up. You know, she's gearing up, she's getting ready to be fired up. Women know what it's like to get 75 cents on the dollar for doing the same jobs as their male co-workers. Oh, did you hear the hate? They're male co-workers! I feel so loved. I want to vote for you! Women know what it's like to get 75 cents on the dollar for doing the same jobs as their male co-workers and to have good ideas that they put forward and then those ideas get scooped up by some man who later decides it was his idea.

1:52:35 and I will say I will add as a no agenda tip if you're in dire straits and you need money the best place to stand is outside the bank This is a great idea because you just you just were in the bank you're surrounded by coin you walk out oh man I was just yeah and likelihood that you were there and you got some out of the ATM genius. Well the cops will bust you if you're hanging around an ATM but yeah anyway it was she said there's a lot of hate going on and she's well California I don't live in California so that could also be a little more special for

1:53:14 for that region. Could be. The United Republic of California. I know people drive with a little more hate. Yeah, well there's definitely hate from Elizabeth Warren. She's gearing up. You know, she's gearing up, she's getting ready to be fired up. Women know what it's like to get 75 cents on the dollar for doing the same jobs as their male co-workers. Oh, did you hear the hate? They're male co-workers! I feel so loved. I want to vote for you! Women know what it's like to get 75 cents on the dollar for doing the same jobs as their male co-workers and to have good ideas that they put forward and then those ideas get scooped up by some man who later decides it was his idea.

1:53:56 Now I wonder what happened to her I wonder because you know that happened to her Oh Missy did or she wouldn't be bitching about it. Yeah Is that is that like I guess it's a thing it happens all the time I put all the time when you're a writer it happens all the time I've good this stuff that we bring out in the show somebody you'll steal it so why yeah, you're right The people steal our stuff all the time. Yeah, I'm sick of it. I And then those ideas get scooped up by some man who later decides it was his idea. Nevertheless, we persist. Stop. Because women have never done that. They have never stolen an idea in their life. No, no, especially not comedy writers. No, at all. Scooped up by some man who later decides it was his idea. Nevertheless, we persist.

1:54:53 Women know what it's like to get talked over in meetings, passed over for promotions and screwed over in salary negotiations. Nevertheless, we persist. We persist. We persist and we march we march in pink pussy hats We march carrying handmade signs We march with our moms and our sisters and our daughters and last year We marched in the largest single-day protest in the history of the entire world That would be a fact-check false probably if you really looked into it Yeah

1:55:46 Guess I just left it on for effect. Sorry. Yeah. Well, if you're gonna play her, I get to play my Michael Moore, which is not as... I've been waiting for Michael Moore from you. Now here's Michael Moore going nuts. But removing him... And us. And the whole disgusting love that in Congress and in our state capitals still won't be enough. No. We must remove... No! And replace... the system and the culture that gave us Trump in the first place. He did not just fall out of the island and land in Queens. He is the result of a decades-long corporate takeover of our democracy and of us never correcting the three original sins of America.

1:56:53 A nation founded on genocide, built on the backs of slaves, and maintained. Wait a minute, I thought the dreamers built it. I'm confused. No, no, it was founded on genocide on the backs of slaves. Well, I thought it was the dreamers who built this country. Well, it changes. To the second generation of women, to second class citizenship, this empowerment. As we seek to rid ourselves of Trump, We must also cleanse our American soul of its white male privilege, its racist greed, and its enforced ignorance. A population of semi-literate and unaware people. Oh my goodness. So the whole country, slavery, genocide, and the subjugation of women, it has got to go. Well, I was reading a very disheartening article

1:57:56 titled, Inside a Public School Social Justice Factory. This is a school in Edina, Minnesota. I don't know if you had an opportunity to read this. Edina is an upscale suburb of Minneapolis. In 2013, a shift changed when Edina school leaders adopted the quote, all for all strategic plan, a sweeping initiative that reordered the district's mission from an academic excellence for all students to racial equity. Now, this is important. Equity in this context does not mean equality or fairness. It means racial identity politics. So they had their all-for-all plan mandated henceforth, quote, all teaching and learning experiences would be viewed through the lens of racial equity and that only racially conscious teachers and administrators should be hired. Racially conscious.

1:58:52 District leaders assured parents this would reduce ADINA's racial achievement gap, which they attributed to barriers rooted in racial constructs and cultural misunderstandings. As a result... So, whatever minorities they're complaining about, not the Chinese... No. getting poor grades because of this. Yes, correct. Well, yes, because of this and this was meant to stop it. Yes, we have to put a stop to it. Spoiler alert, it didn't change anything, but what they have done as a result, the school system's obsession with white privilege now begins in kindergarten. At Adina's Highlands Elementary School, K-2 students participate in the melanin project.

1:59:33 The children trace their hands, color them to reflect their skin tone, and place the cutouts on a poster that reads, Stop thinking your skin color is better than anyone else's. Everyone is special. This is our favorite. Everybody's special. Everyone's special. Highlands Elementary's new racially conscious elementary school principal runs a blog for the school's community. On it, she approvingly posted pictures of Black Lives Matter propaganda, rainbow gay pride flags, along with pictures of protesters holding a banner proclaiming gay marriages are right. On a more appropriate post, Age-appropriate post she recommended an ABC book for children entitled ABC is for activists now I got this book on Kindle and just just got to bring this up So it's a children's book and it's you know, it's like Sesame Street. You learn your ABCs Oh, yeah, here we go. Here it comes a a

2:00:29 Well, I'm already a J in the book. Hold on. I skipped ahead. Okay. A is for activist, advocate, advocate, abolitionist, ally, actively answering a call to action. Are you an activist? B is for banner. Wait a minute. Are you an activist is being asked of a little kid learning his ABCs or hers? Yes, sir. You're going to be outraged. B is for banner bobbing in the sky billowing in the breeze cuz you're not shy C is for co-op Co-operating cultures creative counter to corporate vultures. Oh and cats. Can you find the cats? Isn't it they left out co-opt? Well that no it was oh yeah co-opt with the T. Yes, I

2:01:16 D now this is a page every page has a picture is a picture of a blue donkey Butting heads with a red elephant who has a militaristic hat on and is really looking angry little d democracy More than voting you'll agree Dictators detested donkeys don't get it, but you and me we demand equality So there this this is literally propagandizing children by saying that the elephant... What's the name of this book again? I want a real hard copy. I ordered a hard copy too. A is for activist. E, equal rights, black, brown or white, clean and healthy is a right. Every place we live and play, environmental justice is the way. F is for feminist, for fairness in our pay, for freedom to flourish and choose our own way.

2:02:10 G is for grass roots sprouting from below sharing nutrients and the waters flow below the surface We're all connected stronger together. We grow H is for healthy food a human right honeydew jicama Just want to point out I said jicama properly nature's delight hummus. What is H jicama spelled with a J? I know I know It's spelled you with a J Okay, they have it under H. Yes, it's it's children's book. They need to learn early My god hummus hot dogs Havarti cheese hot dogs. Yes healthy hot dogs, please indigenous that was weird indigenous and immigrant together we stand our histories are relevant an Injury to one is an injury to all that didn't even rhyme people. Oh

2:03:04 J is for justice. Yay for justice. Jia Jingjiang Juanita Jamal justice for the janitors justice for all Wow, and they have like a like a Marxist hand holding a broom kings are fine for story time nights are fun to play This is with a K. But when we make decisions, we will choose the people's way. Oh, gee. Well, how come they didn't put knights under N? Well, they spelled this knights with a K because it's about dictators. Yeah, but they spelled Hickam with a J and put it under H. So why wouldn't they put knights under N to be consistent with this kind of stupidity? I totally agree.

2:03:50 LGBTQ love who you choose cuz love is true liberate your notions of limited emotions celebrate with pride our links of devotion Okay, I think you're making me sick. You might as well just jump to the good one. I'm not gonna read every 26 letters. I'm already at M Megaphone marching movement into music hip hip hooray. It must be May Day. I N is for no, no, no, no. Yes to what we want, no to what must go. No, no, no. Open minds operate best. Critical thinking over tests. Wisdom can't be memorized. Educate, agitate, organize. Wow. This is for a person learning their APCs. Yes. Not a person, a little person, a young child. Yeah. PPP smarch, pro, pro, protest. Pow, pow, power to the PP people, yay.

2:04:46 Haha, I like doing this. I need a classroom. Q is for question questioning coercion. Ooh Querying qualities counter false assertions Radical reds the headline said ruinous rioters the rumors spread rebel rousing riff-raff Really? This is what yeah, that's that's what it says really? This is demented. S is for sun, sol, solar, superstar, stellar power, fuels all life, not just flowers, energized homes, cars and showers, silly selfish scoundrels sucking on dinosaurs, sludge, boo, hiss. You think there's an agenda there?

2:05:28 Well, you know the funny thing is this is kind of what's taught in some California's middle school. This is what's taught in schools. I mean, kind of. Listen to this. T is for trans. For trains. For tiaras. Tulips. Tractors. And tigers too. Trust in the true. The he, she, they. That is you promoting transgenderism. You! Wow, this is weird. You? This whole book... Yeah, now you're almost done. Thank God. You is for weekends. You is for workers' rights. Wait! What is you is for wee... Why, you? Let me finish it! Is it why or you? It's... No, we're right now we're in the you.

2:06:09 You yeah, let me just finish it. It'll make sense. No won't You is for weekends you is for workers rights wait. That's not you. That's w you for Union Union. Yes What is it? The Socialist Workers Party of America put this together? V is for Vox. What? Did you say Fox? No, I said Vox. Did you say Box? No, Vox. Rocks, blocks, socks, Vox. Vox is the people, voice of the populi. Better we go see the letter D. Oh, the voice of the people is Democrat. Yeah, okay. W. Wondrous world, wondrous we. We cannot be whole, we cannot be free, unless we delight in diversity.

2:06:55 X is for Malcolm, as in Malcolm X. History's lessons can be complex. Remember Parks? Remember King? Remember Malcolm? Let freedom ring. Y is for you and youth, your planet, your rights, your future, your truth. Y is for yes, yes, yes, yes. Z is for Zapista, of course. Zaptista. The hell is Zaptista? That's it? That's it. The Z? They didn't have zebra or anything in there that could... No, Zaptista. What's a Zaptista? It's a Mexican revolutionary. Yeah. And a Zapatista, I bet. Let me just double check. Oh yeah, they have a little picture here of someone with a... you know, one of those... I'm going to say it wrong. Yeah, Viva Zapata. Yeah, Z is for Zapatista. You're right. Of course, it even says.

2:07:52 So that's the Zapatista Army of National Liberation? Yeah. This is for kids? I guess the message is let the Mexicans take over California. I don't know what the message is, but... And I'm not meaning Mexican-Americans, I mean Mexicans. Yeah, yeah. Why is Zapatista in there? I don't know. It's a recruiting book. I know I had this exactly the same. I don't think it was worth wasting everyone's time reading it personally. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were enjoying it. No, I just don't think it was because it was just horrible. It was the horrible, horrible, horrible product. But I think I'm definitely going to get a copy.

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2:15:56 Now! And we do want to congratulate Black Knight Saab Swiss, Sir Saab Swiss, on his change of title. He's now a baronet and as soon as he gets his barony he'll be grabbing a protectorate. Did you see there was a dispute for the peerage committee regarding the use of Sir Real as a knight name?

2:16:40 I missed that. You were copied. Yeah, but I thought so. So I just wanted to remind you on the show that that has to be taken care of. It's now in abeyance. In abeyance? Oh, okay. Officially in abeyance. Yes, very good. I have a couple of things. Corroborating your Pelosi that she's ill. Now, you said Alzheimer's? Well, if you remember, we had reports that we relayed that indicated that there are Alzheimer's drugs being sent to the House of Representatives and maybe the Senate for certain members who apparently have Alzheimer's but is not official. Now, remember that? Yes, yes, yes. And I've spoken to people, and I know you think she's very confused, I've spoken to people who've lived with or know parents and people who have gotten Alzheimer's

2:17:35 But she doesn't seem to really be showing Alzheimer's symptoms. I'm thinking could it more be like dementia? Is that the same thing? I really don't know. Don't forget if she's on some sort of medication it might be covering up a lot of it. So you don't take that medication to, you know, make it worse. No. Well, she's done this now six times. This is a clear-up by the Republicans to protect President Bush, excuse me, President Trump in this investigation. She keeps calling Trump Bush. She keeps doing that. Yeah. That's troublesome. Yeah. Very troublesome. It is. She's not just Bush and Trump. President Bush. I couldn't help but notice that you're stepping on my turf.

2:18:25 Oh, yeah, I mean I have three fake alert Hawaii Emergency Agency clips and you have a clip now I see Yes, I have a clip. Do you want me to play it or do you want to hear what I have? I'll play my clip. This is the guy who did the, made the mistake and I think he's been wrong. Here, I'm going to tell you what I think in advance. This guy's been wrongfully terminated and all this bull crap, unless you come up with something really good, is just a waste of everybody's time. In Hawaii, the former state worker who triggered a false alarm warning that a ballistic missile was headed towards the islands is speaking out.

2:19:03 The alert caused panic and chaos around the islands on the morning of January 13th. The former state worker says he sent the alert because he was positive the attack was real. I was supposed to be on speakerphone but someone picked up the receiver and the first part of the message exercise exercise exercise was not heard. The message I heard was This is not a drill and I did not hear exercise in the message I was 100% sure that it was real did what I was trained to do Hawaii's emergency management agency fired him earlier this week and although he says he feels terrible about what happened the former state worker said he did what he was trained to do as you just heard now this is very interesting Why where did you get this from what Network?

2:19:54 NBC. Why did they have his voice all disguised? He never said. The clip that I have, they didn't disguise his voice. I have no idea. On January 15th, I directed Brigadier General Oliveira. Oh wait, that's uh, sorry, that's the wrong one. Shoot, I don't have it. Alright, doesn't matter. There's more things going on here. There's a couple of reports that it's not just that this guy got on fire, it's a guy and it wasn't a woman as you thought. Actually, this guy is suing the state of Hawaii. He should be. Yes, he should be. Here we go. On January 15th, I directed Brigadier General Oliveira to conduct an investigation. Shit, I keep getting the wrong clip. Why is this happening?

2:20:47 Here we go. This is the one I'm trying to play. People want to kill him. They identified it as a male, 10 years in the office. They show a back of a man sitting at a desk. It's not rocket science to figure out who it is. That attorney says his client has been made into a scapegoat and now fears for his life. The state of Hawaii says it cannot comment on pending litigation. Okay, now we have

2:21:32 the story that speaks of not just him but multiple people being fired. On January 15th, I directed Brigadier General Oliveira to conduct an investigation into the false ballistic missile alert on January 13th. Based on his findings, I've made the... I have taken the following personnel actions. One employee has been terminated. One employee resigned before any disciplinary action was taken. We're in the process of suspending one employee without pay. And finally, after numerous discussions over the past two weeks with Major General Miyagi, a respected military leader, an honorable man, has taken full responsibility for the incident of January the 13th and the actions of all his employees.

2:22:21 He submitted his letter of resignation to me this morning, and I have accepted that resignation effective today. Okay, so if this guy, if this is just one guy who made the mistake and he didn't hear the words exercise, exercise, exercise, which apparently according to your clip didn't come in through the speakerphone, but on the handset, why are two other people being disciplined? Well, somebody picked up the phone and maybe that guy's being disciplined, that guy would have screwed it up. Maybe. Let's listen to this third clip. All I know is we got a lot of, this is wrongful termination. I agree.

2:23:01 And I want to remind you that I said the language, this is not a drill, is not something that is supposed to be in a test message or a drill message. Listen to this report. This is not a drill. The alert that sent a wave of fear across Hawaii was sent by an employee who thought the threat was real. Warning of an incoming ballistic missile, the message triggered panic. A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. The false alarm came from this civil defense bunker on January 13th, 8.05 a.m., a routine drill by the overnight shift. A phone recording starts, exercise, exercise, exercise, but includes, this is not a drill.

2:23:44 8.07 a.m. a day shift worker fearing a real missile attack warns the public from a computer. Then a drop down menu asks, are you sure you want to send this alert? He clicks yes. Tonight that employee has been fired. He has performance issues and throughout the 10 years he has confused drills at least Two times. It takes 38 minutes to issue a new alert. No threat. This is the state warning point. Tonight Vern Miyagi, the Emergency Management Agency Administrator has resigned, taking full responsibility. The FCC saying the state didn't have reasonable safeguards in place and didn't have a plan for what to do if a false alert was transmitted. Okay, so what we learned here is that this is not a drill, is not something that was normally in a test message.

2:24:39 And we also hear that he had messed up before. Why was this guy in charge of something like this? A couple of things I'd say, because we're dealing with a government bureaucracy. We don't know that he messed up before. Messed up before maybe came in late for a shift. You don't know anything about that. The guy, this is just their rationale for firing the guy the way I see it. There is one other option to the... and I'll stop from now on unless new information comes out. No, no, because the possibility that does exist that there's something really screwy. How about this? And since you're so enamored with this story, I think you should keep following up on it. How about this? The Keck Observatory in Hawaii

2:25:26 They have a time-lapse video that just runs over and over again, and so now this is widely spread on the internet. And a little bit after 8am on the day of the fake alert, there is definitely something that shoots out of the water, just like one of those Iron Dome videos, and knocks something out of the sky. There is a distinct possibility that there was, I doubt North Korean, but there was some kind of missile Whether intentional whether false flaggy whether whatever it is something it could have been a test of our system Yes, if something got blown out of the sky then and that's the thing that I'd like to know more about It's it's very clear when you see you see, you know, it's exactly like an Iron Dome video what probably I mean we do test our anti-ballistic missile systems

2:26:20 Right. Not every day, but we could test them and it's possible this was some sort of a test. Could be. And the missile was headed for who knows, the middle of nowhere probably. Or that one hand didn't know what the other was doing. Yeah, which is very common. We see that all the time with these intelligence agencies. But then why not just come clean and just say, yeah, okay, this is what happened. Why all this? Because the test because what you're talking about was probably top secret. Ooh, okay Well, they should turn off the cameras at the Keck Observatory next time they try that top secret test. Okay, I'll stay on it Yeah, you should stay on it. Okay, and This is last clip I got in for a dime in for a dollar always it's the no agenda way. Oh

2:27:06 This is a clip that we've talked about this in similar matters, although this is the first time that anyone has gotten in trouble for it, and of course not a elected representative, but still. We're learning more about that surprise resignation by the now former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald stepped down yesterday after Politico reported she'd invested in tobacco stocks and a health care company. Those pretty clear potential conflicts of interest. Well Fitzgerald says a financial advisor is the one who bought the tobacco shares without her knowing. As for that health care company however, that investment she admits she knowingly made.

2:27:42 I've been a doctor for 30 years and I have been against tobacco use in any form that entire time and been vocal about it and am vocal now. Soon as we knew about it, we said sell it. A lot of local people invested in the company, but it's invested in the company. It's not stock, so we can't sell it. It's taking too long and it's too much of a distraction from the CDC work and that's why I offered my resignation. There's a very conflicting bits of information in this, you know, but one point yeah, I sold the stock But then it was invested in the company. It wasn't stock. I mean you Maybe it wasn't publicly tradable stock. The thing that bugs me was a couple things one Senators and congressmen and women Congress people persons

2:28:29 They can trade all they want with insider knowledge, and it is completely okay President Obama made sure that was cemented in law that no not a problem You can do whatever you want and they refuse to put any of that information online No, you have to go into the Library of Congress into the basement where you may not focus photograph or photocopy? I think it's in Congress itself. I think there's some room. What is the library of Congress? I don't know where the data is. We did have one guy about three or four years ago that actually went and found some stuff. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. So this is something that, I mean, that's what you really want to look at. That's where the real crooks are. Then what's irksome is not in a single story, and I looked quite extensively, could I find what stock she had invested in? Jesus, journos! You're keeping all that to yourself.

2:29:21 I mean that's what we want to know. I thought somebody did mention it but I don't have it. I couldn't find it. I'd love to know what she invested in. All right, at least we got that out of the way. Well, yes. We should probably catch up with the nukes thing. I mean, you know, we're fixing our all our weaponry, we're going to redo everything. Let's catch up with that. The Trump administration released its blueprint for the United States nuclear arsenal today. It continues the Obama administration plans to rebuild all of America's nuclear-armed submarines, aircraft and missiles. But it also calls for deploying new nuclear capabilities on submarines and ships.

2:30:16 As Nick Schifrin reports, Pentagon officials say this is a response to what Russia and China are doing. Critics say the plan will spark a new arms race. For more than half a century, the U.S. nuclear arsenal was designed to deter nuclear attack on America and its allies. Today, the Trump administration says the U.S.'s nuclear air, land and sea weapons aren't strong enough. We cannot afford to let it become obsolete. The U.S. says it's trying to cope with adversaries increasingly threatening and complex. Russia is modernizing its nuclear arsenal and warns it's willing to launch relatively small nuclear weapons. China is expanding its conventional military and increasing its nuclear capacity. And North Korea is on the verge of creating a viable nuclear weapon that could hit the U.S.

2:31:06 Deputy Secretary of Defense Patrick Shannon released today's Nuclear Posture Review, or NPR. This NPR ensures we can deter any potential adversary because they are not all alike. The review calls for deploying new, relatively small nuclear weapons carried on submarines and bringing back nuclear-tipped cruise missiles for ships. The review also says the U.S. would consider using nuclear weapons in response to non-nuclear attacks. such as strikes on critical infrastructure. John Rood is the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy. In the context of a non-nuclear attack on the United States or our allies that was strategic in nature, that imposed substantial impacts to our infrastructure, to our people, that we would consider that context in evaluating the appropriate response, perhaps to include nuclear weapons. Go nukes!

2:32:01 Yeah, I don't think this is any of this is a good idea, but it does bring in another story which I know was talking about. And I wonder what this is all about if it's not about oil, which I believe it probably is. But this is the new disputed islands. Oh, more of this China stuff. No, this is Russia. Russia is making a new move to militarize disputed islands off Japan. Moscow announced last night that it is sending fighter planes to one of four islands that Soviet forces seized at the end of World War II. Japan insists the islands are its territory. Oh yeah, oh yeah. You think it's about oil? Hmm. Oh man.

2:32:50 I think there's a couple of things I just wanted to catch up on, not clips but just a few interesting little things that caught my eye. Brussels, the EU, where the rulers of the EU sit, are really trying to move Britain to Berlin time and they will be voting this week on whether to scrap British summertime, which I think, I guess they can do that if they're still in the EU. Yeah, they want to do away with daylight saving time. Oh, well that sounds okay but scrap British summertime? Yeah, no summer for you! Just call it summertime. I guess it's a very globalist thing to do. Get everybody on the summer time. In France we now have police being sent into Calais, migrant gangs are fighting each other. That's bound to happen. It's bound to happen. Now I think it depends on how you count it.

2:33:51 But the headlines vary between a five and a six, but I did like that the Dow dropped 666 points this week. Thought that was a fun little message. That's almost as good as 33. Just sending you a little love message. It was a good one. Yes, that was kind of nice. Hello. Got a note about loyalty from one of our millennial producers. Adam and John's previous show, you were talking about millennial loyalty in the workplace being gone. I cannot agree with you more. Since I was young, I've always admired Apple as a company and their products, and I wish I could have worked for the company. I got a job at Apple at age 18 and have been working there since I'm almost 22.

2:34:31 I find it sad how many Millennials I work with simply do the job for a check and for some experience, with the full intention of leaving the second company where the larger check comes along. I'm the complete opposite. I have a very strong loyalty to the company and my dream would actually be to work at the same company until I retire. My grandfather worked at the Pacific Gas and Electric for 50 years and I hope I can do the same. He did tell me something that might explain another side of company loyalty. He told me that throughout his career at the company, The company loyalty to employees has gone downhill as well. I don't think companies are as loyal and invested in their employees either these days. Also, P.S., I'm a knight and come back to the Mac. We'll accept you with open arms. He is a millennial for sure. I think there's something to that, that companies, you know, it goes back and forth.

2:35:21 Yeah, I can't argue with that. Especially in Silicon Valley. Where it's almost cutthroat, their attitude toward employees going to a board meeting. They don't care. We have to fire 10 guys. Who are we going to pick? Let's pick these guys. You're out. You're out! And have you noticed, just as a general talking point, a lot of M5M media online talking about how the advertising business is a problem. I mean even The Guardian, The Guardian's pitch is saying that internet advertising is not working. Have you noticed this? No, I haven't noticed it more so than it's always been kind of sketchy and seen as such.

2:36:08 Internet advertising that is see I you know the the New York I've seen more if that's what you're picking up It feels like it's more this more discussion of paywalls Well, it seems to me like they're just scrambling You know the scrambling it can't make any money with these models of especially the big newspapers Yeah, well or you know what I always say you can't monetize the network Which is just, turns out to be true. See now I'm on a Guardian page, I want to get, I want to show you, talk about what their pop-up is. But they get this long thing like, chip in a dollar, they're asking for a whole dollar, chip in a dollar to help, you know, keep our reporting going because internet advertising isn't working for us. Yeah, but this, this, this, this, this will be, I mean that's the Guardian saying that. Yeah. And I'd love to give them some money, but, you know, they're spooks. They meddled in our election.

2:37:07 That's the way I see it. Yeah, we can't have them doing that. But also, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I was gonna say I was gonna go to my last clip. Oh, I was just gonna say that the only one who's saying something different is Wired Magazine. Who? Who? They're at them and their internet advertising works like a champ. Yeah, no, what would I have the headline here? Um, podcast listeners really are the holy grail advertisers hope they'd be. Yeah. Uh-huh. I, of course, I commented on Twitter that this is coming from a operation that has about three podcasts that they're hoping to monetize. Yes, because they're probably not making, well, they're going with the paywall themselves on Wired. Yeah.

2:37:57 So I don't know how many people listen to their podcast, but it's I tried listening to one of them. It wasn't interesting Yeah, so you think that they're they're shifting course and they're trying to put all their advertising their focus on selling ads to the podcast part I think they're trying to sell and you know some ads right I mean like Leo over there at Twitter's complaining about this incessantly that he has no ads and He's got plenty of ads. Oh, well, I guess they're not paying more inventory than as I guess maybe that's what he's complaining. I don't know. Well, he's complaining a lot in between shows again. But anyway, that's why I love our value for value model. We're not gonna get rich, but we're still here baby. One double O five episodes later.

2:38:43 I'm coming on on 1006 10-6. That's right. What is 10-6 on the 10 codes? I will look at the 10-6 codes. You got one more clip for us to make us happy as we get in and get into the Super Bowl fever? Yeah, it kind of makes us happy because this is a clip. That I don't know why it hasn't gotten any legs. It wasn't part of somebody's planned rollout anti-gun No, we don't want to do anti no anti-gun right now. No, I think yeah, we got to do anti-trump We got to do this memo don't bring any gun stuff into the play because this is a beautiful story for the anti-gun people to promote and make a big deal about

2:39:21 In news around the state, a 12-year-old girl was charged with two felonies today after two students were shot at at a Los Angeles middle school. Police say a gun in her backpack went off accidentally Thursday, injuring five. A single bullet struck a 15-year-old girl in the wrist and then hit another classmate in the head. Both are expected to make full recoveries. She's charged with being a minor in possession of a firearm and having a weapon on school grounds. The semi-automatic handgun in her backpack wasn't registered and detectives still don't know where she got it from. You know, you're right. That's a horrible story that deserves attention. Now the thing about this story that really, to me, when I hear a story like this, it says, to me, it says we need

2:40:07 Gun safety training in schools. Yes, like we used to obviously she had this gun somebody cocked it Yeah, and left it cocked or somebody shot it in a sense. It's a semi-automatic or an automatic handgun It re-cocked itself. So she's carrying around unknowingly a cocked weapon. Yeah, the safety off John you're right Absolutely, we used to have that until it went out of vogue. Yeah, and then people die. I So after years of listening to my daughter, she sits at the table and goes, can you get anyone to show me how to use a gun?

2:40:49 Really? I was working in San Francisco. Getting this point, I said, yeah, we'll get some gun training for you. What you want is gun safety training. That's what you want. Everybody should have this. And I said it could come in handy, especially if you're in some situation where people are shooting at each other and a gun comes flying your way, comes sliding along and it lands on your feet. You want to pick it up, you want to know how to cock it and shoot it. But she wants to carry? No. She just wants to know how to use a gun. Oh yeah, well you can do that. Didn't you say dad'll take care? Dad'll take care of ya. Well, I would like to take her to a range with somebody who's got a lot of different guns so we can show her the ropes. Right, so depending on which one slides over, she'll know what to do with it? Yeah, because who knows what's going to slide over. Could be a revolver, could be an automatic. It's true, John. Could be a Mac-10, useless. This is America. As a kid, you've got to learn how to drive a truck, drink a beer, shoot a gun, and know how to swim. That's pretty much it. That's funny. Congratulations, you're American now. Well, good for her.

2:41:55 Yeah, I thought it was a move up. Yeah, just yes it there's hope yeah 10-6 is busy to stand by so I don't think it's useful for Standby standby stands. Yeah, 10-5 was relay. We didn't use that one either so 10-7 something important isn't it 10-7 is out of service ah We're gonna be 10-7 if we don't get some money for 10-6 there you go now you're talking Alright everybody, thank you very much for tuning in once again to the best podcast in the universe. Thank you for producing it our execs associate execs and other producers Remember another show on Thursday Dvorak org slash na help us continue for another 10 years Not much else we can do

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