Thu 3 Jan 2019
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You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah it's Thursday January 3 2019. This is your award winning give our nation media assassination episode 1100. This is no agenda, celebrating 1100 episodes and broadcasting live from the Capitol, the dorm star staying here in downtown Austin. The clue to the Morning everybody. I'm Adam curry from Northern Silicon Valley where I live in 100 is a lucky number. I'm Jessie Devorah. Raglan buzzkill 
lucky according to lucky people. Ah, really? All right. Well, Happy New Year, John. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to all the producers. Yes. And boots and sea chips feet on the ground. Exactly. What now you celebrated Christmas? Yes. The divorce family never ceases to amaze traveling around you know, the kids are up and skiing. So we had to wait 
till everyone got together. Okay, where did you get? I got a bunch of just a lot of miscellany. Uh, but including of number of things that I've been, I guess, hinting about. I also got a lamp that I needed a big one. But including verge juice and a bunch of procure what kind of juice? What kind of juice for juice ver heavy er juice? What's the verge juice? It is the juice of unripened grapes 
down? Do you make wine out of that? No, no, no. You use it like a vinegar substitute now okay. Sure is our should have read the book. I know. It's a new year, everybody. Yes. Well, I spent New Year's Day actually the 31st and New Year's Day and yesterday, rebuilding my surface go laptop tablet thing? Ah, that was that was a nightmare. How do you rebuild it, you just go, 
let's just change the screen, put a new keyboard on it. This is what happened. You know, when I got that thing was somewhere in between the 1803 and 1804. Update and I got it and then retracted it. And so anyway, at a certain point, the you know, the 31st, I turned on the morning, boom, Master Boot Record corrupted blue screens. But I'm like, Oh, I have this chronic product, which will help me restore no problem. And I love that you were supposed to be able to restore from the 
cloud? Well, I bet you that worked great. It would have worked great word, not that the product, here's the problem. The way it works is you use their software, and then it's going to reboot, and then it goes into some low level thing. And then it'll suck everything down from the cloud and restore it, which I think does actually work. Unfortunately, the product is looking for your network interface card, your NIC card at a very low level, and the surface only has a USB C and Wi Fi. So I had an Ethernet dongle, 
but it won't do that. It doesn't recognize it. Yeah, it's just looking low level. And then it's like, oh, I can't find one. And then it just restarts or tries to restart, see how to code on it. Now it's not low level enough. It has to be somehow different, like an internal card, not an external thing. Well, that's a security thing, obviously. Yeah. Well, it's, it was not great. Hold on a second. Here's the problem with the with the with you're being nice about this. It seems to me that you went to the cloud 
through that device. Eventually, yes, eventually. Yeah. But that when you went to the cloud to move the stuff there? Oh, yes. It uploaded it. No problem. Sure. Well, if it uploaded, it should have seen at the time, at that moment, it should have looked for this low level number and said, Hey, serial numbers that are Hey, wait a minute, this is something different and then quiz the machine. Oh, okay. Okay. We'll put it we'll put an exception flag up. Yeah. That so when he asked to do the read the reload, no problem. It shouldn't be a 
problem at all. It was so white. Why wasn't that accomplished? Is the question I'd be asking. Yeah, well, the I left some support notices your product is does not work. It does not work on this particular that it works with a with a hard drive backup. But I'm willing to do that at the studio machine. I've cloned the drive of the machine after every show. So if there's a problem, I just swap out the drive. We're back on the air. But I had kind of built this thing up my life was in it. And although all my files were available on the cloud, I did have to reinstall Windows 10 and 
rebuild everything and you know what that's like, registration codes. Anyway, so I spent a lot of time on there actually. Man registry issues, Dell all kinds of stuff. But, man, the thing is much faster once I put windows 10 on and again, I think you just have to do that. I don't know. Maybe because I had the messed up update thing. Ah, yeah, I can see that actually. I believe it does happen in BitLocker. That's what it is. BitLocker that's what screwed me 
up. Control room knows what it is. So my first real disaster recovery with Windows first of many, I'm sure, but at least I know what not to do. Trust the damn cloud. Stupid. Stupid. Money. Yes. Anyway, there was a number of interesting events New Year's Eve in the Netherlands. You know if for people who've never been to the Netherlands, and certainly not around New Year's, the Dutch are very docile, quiet, calm people. But 
around New Year's, and it's legal. People go apeshit and they let it all out. And they do that with fireworks. You're allowed to buy fireworks set him off anywhere you want him at people and shoot him at people and here's a Facebook video with just a little compilation Oh thing is like five minutes just to about 45 seconds. And this is made up of YouTube videos. So it's not a not a professionally produced piece. But it's just YouTube videos Yes, you did indeed just witness a man fire rocket from his ass 
cheeks. To you. This might seem a little crazy. We're even borderline insane. But to the Dutch. It's just another New Year's in the Netherlands 364 days of the year is quite peaceful. Normally, the closest the average duchy gets to war or loss is a Pikachu or law on the 31st of December this all changes their most beloved New Year's tradition is making their safe little country feel 
like you get the idea. I mean, is that my favorite is always the car bite milk. Cannons. You know, they got the big metal milk containers. Yeah, with the tarp on it. And so they jam it full of it. Carbide is that carbon carbon in it? Yeah. 
Anyway, this year, which I think has happened before they build a big bonfire on the beach of savoring. And they make it out of wooden pallets. And this year, they decided to go for a record of 150 feet high tower of pallets What could possibly go wrong. So they they liked this thing, New Year's Eve. And because of the kind of the funnel nature it created, what they're calling the fire NATO. And this there was a wind caught 
it just and it, you know, spiraled up through this through this 150 foot structure and spewed out flaming bits all over the city because of course the wind turned there were roofs catching on fire people's clothing on fire just walking down the street. They're on fire. You'd think that they'd pass some legislation concerning this. You can't mess with the Dutch when it comes to what they do a New Year's they get insane. They this like they need it. They 
need it. They need to blow stuff up and get all the groceries. They put the clamps on that they'd be a little more aggressive during the rest of the year. Yeah, for sure they would. So anyway, record number of fires all over the country, people destroying stuff. It's very, very sad what happened what goes on in the Netherlands? Sounds like Oakland in France, that McCall had his New Year's address where he made very sure that everyone understood that what's going on 
is not just people who are unhappy, but it's clearly terrorists and other horrible people right wingers, I guess French president Emmanuel Macron has used his New Year's Eve speech to acknowledge the anger which has exploded in the country, but warned extremist elements. Some take as a pretext that they speak in the name of the people with what people wear how and in reality given there are nothing but the megaphone for a crowd full of hatred, railed against elected representatives, force of other journalists, Jews, 
foreigners, homosexuals, that's, quite simply is the negation of frost. So the people who were actually protesting hate Jews, homosexuals, migrants, okay, there's no pistol Frenchmen, I guess. That's bullcrap. As John provocateurs a little twisted slant to the news in the US we had a joke gone kind of wrong Strategic Command, which oversees America's nuclear and missile Arsenal has Apollon This is Japanese television reporting 
JAWS for tweeting that it was ready if necessary to drop something much, much bigger than the New Year's Eve Countdown ball. The annual countdown in New York's Times Square ushers in the new year with a brightly lit ball descending down a special flagpole. The message was posted with a video of a b two stealth bomber dropping bombs. The tweet was deleted after drawing a wave of criticism and replaced with an 
apology that said the previous tweet was in poor taste and did not reflect the commands values. Yeah, yeah. Somebody's values reflected in perfectly as far as I'm going as far as I'm concerned. Exactly what our values are war stuff. Yeah. Did you see any of the television shows that were that were on during New Year's? I flipped a few of them flipped around a few of them gave up. I mean, it was like second rate bands. Jenny McCarthy, 
announcing these people never heard of any of them. A lot of lip synching crap and people jumping up and down and it was just like, No, it was tear. I mean, it was unwatchable. Yes, CNN did their annual Anderson Cooper's drunk with somebody else. And this was the second or third year in a row. Andy Cohen, gay production television production icon producer of The Real Housewives series. And yeah, there's only it was 40 
degrees and rain. It's really miserable in New York when it's like that. It's just miserable. And they're so they're drinking there. And it was just all gay jokes. Just Gay, gay, gay and then share call them was just gayer than gay. Take Okay, can we have a dumbbell look just something different for a second now was not possible. Switch to NBC. There's Carson Daly, and he's hosted co hosting with him is John Legend's wife. What's her name? Christie Teigen? Who is a model and I think she 
jumped the shark man. She's you know these people should not be hosting anything. Talking about vaginal steaming and you know at quarter midnight when families might be watching and then they they they succeeded to miss the ball drop shot. They missed the actual last three it's unbelievable. It was really bad and I yearn for Dick Clark. You know just just boring make it boring. Put some put some some guests aren't show up party. Now 
they force all these performers to perform in the rain with their with just their their their. Their regular track date backing tape. CBS pulled the plug on all this stuff. No tape rally regular programming. Yeah, they probably got better ratings. It was just a shit show. But here's here's what blew me away. Did you know that New York Times Square and China is specifically the city of 
Chongqing pretty much commercialized the whole celebration. at Times Square, there was a complete bought and paid for Chinese operation. Oh, and they had a stage that had the main stage they had their own telecast. And you know a couple hours before midnight, the the Time Square was already New Year's the day before in China. Here's a couple of clips from this from this presentation. Here we go. 
Welcome to Times Square 2019. The global celebration at the crossroads of the world. Please direct your attention to the top of One Time Square as representative of Chung Qing China, and Times Square in New Year's Eve flipped the switch that light the New Year's Eve Ball. So they powered the ball this year. The city of Chong Ching power the ball and they had more elderly that dragon dance earlier was so beautiful and 
despite all the rain, they still rocked it perfectly. It's very impressive. Definitely Thank you very much. The show just come from China, the city of Chongqing and its culture history has really inspired it to become a major international city and the center of industrial and automotive innovation. Look at the car right there in Times Square. This Chinese piece of junk twirling around. Oh yes. We got 
beautiful cars for you. I found this to be rather flabbergasting that the Chinese just own New Year's Eve on Time Square. And come visit us please. That sounds amazing. And I would love to get the Chung Ching in 2019 I'd love to go to Chang Chang Adama. Yeah, it's all good idea. Coming into, you know, coaching have over 80 international director flights connecting with the world, including the city of New York to 
LA, I was in LA I thought should AOA and then they had the ambassador to Chung Chung Ching on hand and he gave a little New Year's greeting Hello, friend. Yeah. China welcomes you with open arms. I encourage all of you to visit China in 2019 reach out to each civilization and make more Chinese have friends in the circle ball. H O Global 
Village Happy New Year and Aseem nang paella passing mankind out to you. And then the final guy they brought on was I don't even know who he was. He was important you know there's you know, there's like five Chinese officials standing there. I don't know who they were they had they're just standing at attention. And this guy that Okay, it's time for him to come over. He comes over boughs grabs the mic now I would like to invite a wandering boy to share his greetings with us. Go for y'all. See now. Well, maybe that's only Jin Shan got 
somebody actually. Shinya. Satsang Guan chi Oh Sanjay, neon. Your God is your size wise from Poland Tran. que haga since that's what that lady said. What? Kill whitey. Oh, man, the Time Square 2090 owned by China. No one mentioned 
that. Well, they weren't about to mention the Chinese. No. I can't even I think that town that Shawn sheen, whatever it is, is looking for one of those three mega cities. The size of Shanghai in the middle of nowhere. Yes, that's where they got to get a promotional video and everything. You can go if anyone wants to go there. I'd recommend it. But you have to remember you're going to be the only white person there. are going black listener. Maybe 
Maybe you're a black guy. Yeah. Do you feel right at home? Oh, by the way, if you're anything if you're a Latino you're gonna be the only Latino there I don't know. It looks like there's a lot of trade going on. But there's a lot of there's a lot of trade. You have a lot of foreigners a lot of foreigners. In fact, the only thing I have that's kind of interesting like along those lines is Bolsonaro Boston, a narrow the Brazilian 
guy. Oh, you're gonna do he's doing a bilateral deal with China. He's Brazil is gonna be it's gonna be till the Chinese goods. Play Bolsonaro F 24 Next Ionis First Aid Office Brazil's new president Jair Bolsonaro has got straight down to work issuing a series of decrees on the economy, agriculture and the society. Bolsonaro former army captain was sworn in on Tuesday as Brazil's first foray president since the military dictatorship gave way to civilian rule back in 1985. The country's new 
leader was elected on the promise of cleaning up Brazilian politics and has the Justice Minister has been bolstered up to fight graft battle through the nice Crime Listen to Eliot report from Brasilia. Earlier today he met with the US Secretary of State, also a former Army Captain Mike Pompeo described a new transformative relationship with Brazil. And he then went on to meet Brazil's new foreign minister where they discussed the issue of Venezuela. Now Bolsonaro is a nationalist he is an avid user 
of social media. And of course, he despises political correctness. So comparisons have often been drawn between him and US President Donald Trump, but really Brazil historically, while it's had cordial ties with the US, they've been nonetheless fairly, fairly cold, fairly, fairly. Not very profound, really. Brazil has focused its energy on bilateral trade with China. China is now Brazil's biggest trading partner, and it'll be interesting to see how that trade dynamic plays out. Given The trade war between the US and China already China is 
buying more Brazilian soybeans to offset American trade tariffs. Bastards they're cutting our business. Yeah. Is this is this guy Bolsonaro Bolsonaro Bolsonaro is he considered right wing? Oh, he's just a Nazi. Oh, yes. Okay got it got it got it got it big fan of the old military dictatorship something of an a hole but in the course of the way democracy now I have a 
second clip presents it also gets this put in a little piece of propaganda going on. This is a shorter clip. This is just I actually I want to make this a quiz. See? Well, no, no, don't make this a quiz. I got another quiz for you. But just listen to the way Amy likes to slip in a little propaganda. Going to restore order in this country. We are aware of this awesome responsibility. They dn Yeah. Okay, well, it's very short. It's very 21 seconds. Yeah. 
Okay. Going to restore order in this country. We are aware of this awesome responsibility and the challenges that we will face. We know where we want to go and the potential that Brazil has many fear Brazil's young democracy is now at risk for years Bolsonaro has praised bristles former military dictatorship was speaking in favor of torture and threatening to destroy and prisoner banish his political opponents. I'm not sure what I was supposed to hear. Well, what it was it went on it clipped it poorly. Sorry. No. It went on to go on about how Boeing she met met with the 
Boeing guy. And the new DoD Department of Defense. Yes. The new Boeing guy, which made munitions company. Oh, she did that again? Yeah. Oh, oh, yes. Didn't didn't we play that last time? It was a different clip. I've done it over and over. She keeps doing that how Boeing is just weapons company. It's true. It while true. That typically isn't what you say? No, it's not. It's not how you do it. Oh, there's a weapons company. They make a jet. 
I was thinking about the DoD audit and how long this has been going on and, and just Just what the hell is happening with our Department of Defense's where all our money goes every single drop of it? Pretty much $700 billion. And I found a report that's been going on for a long time. From 2005. When Rumsfeld was the he was the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, under 
Bush, and this is you'll recall September, no way. Yeah, September 10 2001. We found out that $2.3 trillion was missing or was unaccounted for at the Department of Defense. And I think in this clip, they even mentioned that that was just for one year only. It wasn't for a couple of years. I was one year. I don't know if I understand how that works. But I just want to play this. This report from CBS from 2005 kind of got the day before 911 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld 
declared war not on foreign terrorists, the adversaries closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat. In fact, it could be said that it's a matter of life and death, Rumsfeld promised change. But the next day, the world changed. And in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten my oh three budget calls for more than like how they're called The War on waste instead of the war on theft, but okay, 
$48 billion. In new defense spending more money for the Pentagon when its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25% of what it already spends. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions 2.3 trillion with a T. That's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America to understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions. Consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere 300 million. We know 
it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on. Jim Minarik, a former Marine turned whistleblower is risking his job by speaking out for the first time about the millions he noticed were missing from one defense agencies balance sheets, machinery tried to follow the money trail, even criss crossing the country looking for records. The director looked at me and says, Why do you care about this stuff? took me aback. My supervisor asked me why I care about doing a good job. He was reassigned and says officials then covered up the 
problem. by just writing it off, they gotta cover it up. That's where the corruption comes in. They've got to cover up the fact that they can't do the job. The Pentagon's inspector general partially substantiated several of mysteries allegations, but could not prove officials tried to manipulate the financial statements. 20 years ago Pentagon employee Franklin C Spinney made headlines exposing what he calls the accounting games. I've all still there, and although he does not speak for the Pentagon, he believes the problem has gotten worse. Those numbers 
are pie in the sky. The books are cooked routinely year after year after year. retired Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan commanded the Navy's second fleet, the first time Donald Rumsfeld served as Defense Secretary with good financial oversight. We could find $48 billion in loose change in that building without having to hit the taxpayer. That's been going on for a while. I forgot about it. How long it's been going on that we don't know forever. And there was one gets the biggest scandal in the country. Nobody seems to be 
even want to pay attention to it. Nobody discusses it is not on the campaign trail. You don't hear Elizabeth Warren talking about it. There was a Democrat who made a big stink about this, and subsequently pretty much got disappeared from life. Do you remember who that was a woman? No, no, no fan. McKinney. McKinney? Yes. from Georgia. The 
black Democrat, or the black Democrat McKinney, she made a fuss to Secretary according to the Comptroller General, the United States, there are serious financial prop management problems at the Pentagon, too, which Mr. Cooper alluded. Fiscal Year 1999 2.3 trillion missing fiscal year 2001 point 1 trillion missing. And DoD is the number one reason why the government can't balance his checkbook. The Pentagon has claimed year after year, that the reason it can't account for 
the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other. My second question, Mr. Secretary is who has the contracts today to make those systems communicate with each other? How long have they had those contracts? And how much have the taxpayers paid for them? Thank you, Representative. The second question. I forgotten what the second question was. I think Miss Jonas knows it. Okay. 
Thank you, Miss bikini? I appreciate the question. I appreciate your interest in our department's financial condition. And we are working very hard on that program. I've just come back. I understand that you're working hard on it. My question was, who has the contract? How long has that they had that contract? Or and how much money have we spent on it? In general, we spend about $20 billion dollars in the department on information technology systems. The the accounting systems are part of that I can get you the exact 
number for the record of what we spend on our current what we call legacy systems, and those that we're moving toward, and who has the contracts, that that would be a multitude of individuals. Could you name some please? Well, I think off the top of the my head. Well, I would record that's not privileged information. Please. And we still have time, so please, I would be glad to provide for the record. I don't want to talk from the top of my head. Correct? Yeah. 
So they were spending $20 billion on their bookkeeping legacy systems in 2005 or six. This is and Cynthia McKinney. I think she's teaching at the University of Bangladesh. And I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding. She just gone. This is the real problem. I said was the problem. Yes, it's the problem. It's stealing 
our money. Yeah, sit around their buddies. And then kind of losing track of it obviously, in this kind of to lose track of is it steal it? And it kind of but it is it stuff to your right is theft, not waste, and it plays into the newsletter in a way what's the newsletter about? What's his face? That everyone's talking about his op ed, he slammed Trump Romney. Mitt Romney Mitt Romney warmonger. Oh, listen to this. I want to play this little bit here. This 
guy is Mitt Romney is a dick. He's a total douchebag I want to play this talking about the academic industrial military complex. I have this Bruce. Bruce Ackerman does Bruce Ackerman is a professor at Yale and he was on for France 24 And he is branching out. The woman is fed up with him and he's ranting about Trump. And he makes it you have to listen to this is what the academia 
actually believes. This is the rant number one. President Trump has proudly taken responsibility for this shutdown. Everyone recognizes everyone recognizes that this is entirely unnecessary. Only to just today, the new leader, the new de facto leader of the Senate, Mitt Romney, wrote an opinion essay in The Washington Post condemning this as merely 
posturing and unnecessary. Everyone recognizes that President Trump is trying to show the world that he is still in charge when he isn't. No, of course not. We know who's really in charge the guys with the guns. Now we have Mitt Romney somehow before he even takes office as Lee is the leader. He's a junior senator, who's going to suffer from this by the way these guys. This doesn't go over well with Matt 
with the people that are the leadership of these these hot these traditional houses. I mean, that's what happened. And in fact, I just want to don't jump around with that theme. But do they do have a Bruce Ackerman to clip where she runs him off? Play that, but then I have to play one other clip. You can He's holding a meeting now with the Democratic and Republican leadership, but he has not actually reached out to out to them in advance to ask to negotiate terms. You just don't 
bring them into the situation that room in the White House, and then expect to have a deal without preparatory preparatory negotiations. So if the if unless he caves in, in an obvious way, unfortunately, my prediction is that this shutdown will continue for a while until he recognizes that he is making 
a fool of himself. Okay. Bruce Ackerman, your professor at Yale University. Thanks for your time today. Thanks, guy, by the way, he's responsible for the social justice warrior movement. Really? I think so. He should take a public speaking class while he's at school. Yeah, like one lecture. But back to Romney. I want to play this clip. This is Romney already mouthing off on Democracy Now. Incoming Republican senator Mitt Romney of Utah rights. President Trump has not risen to the mantle of the office and a New 
Year's Day, the mantle. Let's just stop there for a second. The mantle. That's a is that not something that we used to refer to kings and Queen of England and the Pope. You know, the mantle, I am wearing my mantle of rulership. So why does Romney consider that to be a mantle or does he think Trump wants it to be manful and doesn't know how to how to wear it? I mean, which one is it? Just you? I don't know. I would like to have somebody out there to 
get me the genesis of why Romney hates Trump to his core. It's probably more personal than anything. I bet you it has something to do with some deal. Some deal, the office and a New Year's Day op ed published by The Washington Post, Romney says he supports Trump's policies including tax cuts deregulation, appointment of conservative judges to federal court, but Romney says Trump has failed to show honesty and integrity is President writing quote with the nation so divided, resentful, and angry presidential 
leadership and qualities of character is indispensable and it is in this province where the incumbent's shortfall has been most glaring. Romney is among the freshman members of Congress set to be sworn in by Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday. No, Romney, and his little laundry list there specifically mentioned lowering taxes, right. Here's his here's Romney on lowering taxes in 2012, just a few years ago, that we could afford to do a little bit more to make sure we're not blowing up the deficit. The president began this segment. So 
I think I get the last word. So I want to say you're gonna get the next segment. Well, but he gets the first word of that segment, I get the last word that make this work. Let me repeat, let me repeat what I said. I'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. That's not my plan. My plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will lead to the deficit. Boom. Yeah, yeah. So the guy's full of crap. Of course, he also did say famously that Russia was the real problem. Even though it isn't, he was already on that 
tip way ahead of the game. Yeah, he was too. Today. He'd read. They'd read him in a little too soon, too soon. I have a clip of Romney was yet on some show, addressing the mantle, etc. And listen to the globalist words and terms that he uses, particularly in regarding what the United States is because according to Romney, we own it all. It's the world it's ours. 
You said that you were dismayed by President Trump's decision in December to pull troops out of Syria, which resulted in the resignations of Mattis and the special envoy to the global coalition to defeat ISIS, Brett McGurk, the freital. The president says, We need to get out of these foreign entanglements. And that's what he ran on. Why is he making a mistake? Well, the reason that we're involved in the world is to make the world safer, which is good for the world and good for us, okay. Because we trade with places throughout the world, we sell products throughout the world. We sell products or 
products, people come and go into our various countries, and we share not only culture, but education, technology, innovation, Whoa, did you hear what he said? Listen carefully to this. Every week, as we trade with places throughout the world, we sell products throughout the world, people come and go into our various countries, and we share knowledge, people come and go into our various countries. I missed that. I missed it. The first because we own you all, you suck as you come into our various country on 
this call this guy has, because we trade with places. We sell products throughout the world. People come and go into our various countries. And we share not only culture, but education, technology, innovation. And so having a a stable world, where we can conduct a trade is a very good thing for us and for the world. Okay, he's talking about trade, trade, buying and selling our country's trade, trade, buy and sell trade. And so we're in Syria with a very small footprint about 2000 people clearly to trade to help our allies. They're the Kurds to 
trade and in some respects to provide some stability to that region, so that Assad or air Dhawan or the Russians or the you know, the the Iranians don't rush in and slaughter people. I'm sorry. Aren't the Turks in NATO? Aren't they our allies? Now you're worried about them slaughtering people and and hurting our allies, slaughter our allies, slaughter our allies, the Turks so so so pulling out on a precipitous basis without interacting with them and coordinating this with them and getting the input for instance, from Secretary Mattis is 
something which I think is very troubling to me and to a number of others just the just wants to sell more war stuff. Guys the worst he is how did he ever became the nominee for the Republican candidate is money on me money? Money. Disguise load, you got money? You can you can run parts of the country. On this like, money, Bloomberg, money. Yeah, Bloomberg. He wants to run to I gotta put him on the list. 
And then he's gonna run over the midget party. Oh, God. Don't Don't do that. There are short people who listen to the show. You know, I'm sorry, everybody here. I really feel bad about me while Ocasio Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is making waves herself. Yeah, this is very interesting. The first of all, she didn't get her committee here. Select cool. I have the clip about that. Oh, good. Let's do this Pelosi cuts off AOC at the knees climate activist pushing for the creation of a green New Deal 
committee when Democrats take control of the House this week were met with disappointment Friday, when presumptive incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the creation of another environmental panel instead, the select committee on the crime climate crisis is set to be led by long standing Florida Congress member Kathy Castor. Proponents of the green New Deal have argued the panel will be too weak as it will not have legislative power and may not have subpoena power. The proposal for a green New Deal also sought to bar Congress members who accept money from the fossil fuel industry. 
I think, maybe sighs not just knees, boom, boom, boom, done. Get out is not happening. AOC and AOC is fighting back. More she fights back the worse it's gonna be for her, along with the ROH Khanna a Democrat from California, oh, Roca they are opposing the new rules package. Now. I had to look into this because I wasn't quite familiar with it. But the way the House of Representatives works is they have rules because 
they're basically they hold the purse strings so they determine who gets money and how much and where it goes. And they have a rule and one of the rules is currently under the Trump administration. It's called cut, go. So anything, you want to spend some more, you want to spend some money over here, you want to spend more money than we have, you have to cut something else called cut go. The Democrats want to change the rules, which needs to be voted on by the whole house to pay go, pay go. And the pay go rules means you have to be able to so 
you don't cut, but you have to have the money to pay for it. So that can come from many, many different places. But what you're not allowed to do under pay go is just print up money. And that, of course, doesn't fit with the AOC plan. Because she has said even in in our group Green New Deal, the way they're going to pay for it is the way we paid for the great recession by printing up the money. And when I think we printed up a trillion or 2 trillion for that. And so she's going to vote 
against the rules package. They think you need like 18 Two votes to be against the rules package and then it won't pass and it'll stay cut go which means even though the Democrats will have the house, the rule will remain in place, that if they want to spend money somewhere it has to be cut somewhere else. So Cortez is really on the she's she's on the edge with this one. If she can if she can get a couple more people to participate. She's a troublemaker. 
Yes. I like her. I think she entertains but I think she's a troublemaker and I think it's fun to watch. It's incredibly fun to watch. She really knows how Pelosi operates. No, not yet. She'll find out his daughter had some comments that they were quoted locally saying that she's the documentary filmmaker is not Pelosi slaughtered OCB. She says my mom could cut your head off and you wouldn't even know you're bleeding 
and her head has gone on her head is gone. All right. So we got that taken care of, I noticed is one thing that's not being played in our news at all. And that is the the old bromide the Chinese like to use when they get into trouble with us, which is threatened Taiwan. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. 
France 24. This giant China Taiwan heats up. reunification is inevitable. She's in pings message to Taiwan 40 years after China ended its military confrontation with the island. Now the Chinese president says use of force is still on the table. Why am I willing to negotiate sincerely and expand all our efforts in striving for the prospect of peaceful reunification on which we do not promise to renounce the use of 
force and reserve the right to use all necessary measures. Taiwan has never formally declared independence, but it's been self governed since 1949. When the nationalists fled to the island after losing China's Civil War to the Communist Party. 30 years later, in 1979, China made a call for unification and ended its routine bombardment of the island. But Beijing continues to see Taiwan as a rogue province, 
and in recent years has conducted regular military drills in the region. Xi Jinping wants Taiwan to come under the same One Country Two Systems policy as Hong Kong and Macau, the proposition rejected by the Taiwanese president. We have to reaffirm that Taiwan will never accept the One Country Two Systems policy, and the majority of Taiwanese people will never accept that either. Meanwhile, China has been using diplomatic and economic pressure 
to sideline Taiwan on the global stage. Last year, Beijing convinced El Salvador and the Dominican Republic to cut diplomatic ties with Taipei, who sovereignty is now recognized by just 17 nations. How is this any different from Russia and Putin and Crimea? Just right, well, as far as I'm concerned, is far different. First of all, most of the people living on Taiwan are Taiwanese, and they're they're 
not like a bunch of mandarins from Beijing living there in the Crimea was mostly Russians. Okay. I think that's a major difference. So if you had a referendum in China and Taiwan to Washington okay so so China they would vote no now you're getting more towards my point. Is this is this is China looking to annex re annex or or whatever you want to call? What? A Taiwan. And as you pointed out, no one's talking about it. They don't know what to talk 
about. They don't know what to say or what to think this, this happened during the last time, this was a real major situation where these two islands, quill Moy, is cool, Moy and Matt sue these two islands that were one two owned by Taiwan in one zone by China. And this was during the Nixon administration. And it was going to be a point of argument at the debates. What are you going to do if China you know, takes over the other island because they keep kept threatening to do it? And it's 
just a giant pulls the stunt all the time, they tend to pull it in Republican administrations? I'm not sure why that is. But I think it's because we're, I think there's some concern that China is, you know, taking over the world and they always stop short though they always a threatening, this just keeps coming back, and then they never really do anything. Well, they have so many people is the problem. And if they ever did something is probably nothing we could really do about it. And I don't know what damage would be a real mess of day tech to 
Taiwan. But when I first went to Taiwan, which is really in the 90s Maybe the late 80s used to get shirts made there. Oh yeah, I would always get well it's got Korea, Korea, Taiwan, and I used to get shirts made in Hong Kong, but then now it's too expensive. Like really expensive. And tell us about your shirts, your shirt, shirt shop, they were special shirts. They're just tailor made shirts is all they are they had nice fabrics are about 15 bucks apiece, you forgetting and nowadays are more like 20 You're forgetting the most important part. You had the 
shirts made with a special breast pocket. Oh, no. Yes. Okay, sorry. You're right. I had the I had my own pattern. So I bring a pattern over this. I want these shirts made with these pockets. And I wanted a certain you know, Perry Ellis patent his shoulders, and there's a number of features I like on my shirts. And so at the time, I had these huge breasts pockets that would conveniently hold a CD in the pocket and disappear down into the pocket perfectly. So if you went to 
somebody's house and you want to steal some of their CDs, you can easily put it into pocket. One point also have pockets that fit a five inch floppy. Yeah. You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley. A fantastic man walking around can get to have a custom made shirt. You might have to do something custom. Yeah, exactly. Huge pocket. What's that for? It's for my floppy disk. Hey, girl. Hey, girls. Wanna see my sloppy? Very nice. Anyway, so 
yeah, Taiwan and Japan, South Korea. are the places that custom shirts made inexpensively, about 20 bucks maybe around there. And they'll do anything. So this this little back and forth with China is not being covered at all by our media. And it's we're all in we've gotten about it. They Chinese have been putting the screws to everybody who does business with Taiwan. The Chinese are on time they own Time Square. I mean, come on. 
It's like there's a lot of money flowing the problem. The no agenda show is not seeing any one or remedy B or any of that. No, it's because we're banned. We are actually blocked in China. Now. It doesn't surprise me. I have heard from more than a few people. I can't tell anyone to China to check just because they can't get the show. So we're blocked for what reason? We've been deep platformed by China. Why are we blocked in China? It's a question it's called the platform that sounds better. Why are we the platform in China? What do we 
have? Well how much China coverage do we even have this that important? More than the mainstream? Yeah. That's the problem I them. That's the problem right? They're crazy. We actually I believe that our show has been D platformed. Multiple times. Without us really what we've we've seen the results but we weren't able to figure it out. And there is a study was done a test. Who did this report group called EMG. Who the hell are 
these guys? I am G Have you heard of them? Just sound sounds fishy to be quite honest, Mg Mg MSC which stands for AMG about us anyway. This is mg they did a test of of spam emails and so newsletters essentially being sent to Google Yahoo. And what was the AOL Yahoo email, AOL email and Gmail, email and And 
they tracked how many newsletters went to spam during the period October 4 to November 6, and especially two days before the election, all right leaning entities as they call them in their study went to spam. All that's interesting. And so the the assertion here actually, I would say it's an accusation is that the email providers worse, we're sending newsletters of right wing candidates to spam. And if you 
if you look on Yahoo 70% or more most 100%, Josh Hawley, Rick Scott Dean Heller, Mike Braun, Kevin Kramer all to spam, then you had the Democrats 0% Is it same for AOL, almost the same percentage as Gmail was a little better, but they still had 100% for a couple of candidates go into spam. And we know how this email game we dealt with it at MVNO even pod show me VO We had 
to pay can you know, because we had emails that will go out if someone created an account, or if you want to retrieve your password or a notification. And we just happened to set that system up, we're talking 2000 days 678, somewhere six, probably, we just set that up and emails weren't arriving, which is difficult if someone wants to recover their password. And they were all being blocked, not even getting through not even getting to spam because we weren't an official e mass email provider which apparently you need to need to be or hire the 
services in order to get through to these companies on an on an any scale other than an individual. It's a tax. And it's a Kleiner Perkins company to so we got to deal but still it was crazy. We've had 1000s a month just to be let through on email. Well, my let the last email I sent out to one of the first show 1100 We ended up with a higher norm rate we have by a number of people that report this higher than normal rate going into the promotions box at Google. 
Yeah, the promotions box. That's another one. Yeah. And how did you know that? Just feedback from people that you know that Yeah, yeah. Because this would one or two guys in particular. So this today's for your information. Today's email went into the regular box. Today's email went into promotion. Good feedback, good feedback. Yeah. So that is a form of deep platforming. Sadly, yeah, emails because we've let But hold on, but we pay the no agenda show pays MailChimp and 
they're an unapproved emailer. So we pay to get through, but then on the other end, we still have these companies going, man, we'll throw that into spam. And it could just be some, some algorithm that looks for certain combos of work. I've tried to figure out what they these combos are over the years, and I've gotten a few of them, you still haven't done the Trump is Trump socks or you know, you got to do as a subject line. See if everyone gets it. Trump sucks test. It's the TST. 
Yeah, maybe I try. It isn't excusable newsletters worth it's worth a shot could work. The I've always known that it was the apps that is that, you know, we step back for a second. The thing that Facebook and Twitter, let's just keep it at Facebook for a second, well add Google to that continuously say to everybody is your data is your data, we don't sell your data, your data belongs to you. It's your data, your data, your data, your data, your data. The term 
data is very misleading in this. The term data refers to stuff you post and your photos, etc. That's really what they're talking about when they say your data. But the data that is created by actions you take that you don't actually know, is inherently not your data, according to Silicon Valley. And they don't tell you about it. And I've always thought that the issue with the with tracking from Silicon Valley mainly location based, I think that's the main thing you know, where 
someone is you get a good idea who they hang out with and and what they're doing just based on location. But the apps, any app that has the Facebook advertising SDK, software development kit included, is tracking you like no one else's business. Facebook is you with your Android phone. If you open up a app, any app that has the Facebook SDK, but really there's 1000 advertising SDKs it sends data back to home base with a 
lot of information about you at that very moment. The trip We'll see computer clubs in, in Germany. Those guys have been around for decades, haven't they? The CCC. Maybe was the genesis of that group. Do you know? Well, computer clubs are a huge popular thing in the 70s and early 80s. Because as we got these these new machines, the information we were getting was pretty scant. And so far you couldn't get enough information. So you'd join these clubs and the clubs would there which are fantastic. You join one of these 
clubs, and then they'd bring guests in from Microsoft companies, and they could get grilled. Were you a member of any of these clubs back in the day? Well, you would never I was never technically a member, but you could go to any of the meetings. So yeah, I went to a lot of meetings. We went to homebrew. I went to this one in Berkeley there was, I think, Palo Alto Computer Club, if I'm not mistaken, or that was homebrew. I'm not and they all had their own BBs generally dialed 
in. But the BBS was interesting because they would have the same experts. And you could ask questions on the BBs and get your questions answered by something doesn't work. Those are the days where you had to write or borrow or find somebody else who could write drivers for printers, oh, three windows days, there was no simple way. In fact, it wasn't to a printer, the term and Silicon Valley was hey, man, it's all about the drivers. Was that like the number one thing all about the drivers? Well, I don't know about that. But the drivers were quite 
important. Yes. If you didn't have the right driver, peripherals wouldn't work yet, still kind of that. I was still seeing some driver issues. So the CCC did an excellent presentation, you'll find it in the show notes, I clicked one little bit of it, just to give you an idea. To set it up. They only did this on Android, they only did it with a select number of apps. But the apps that were reporting a lot of information, the ones I found interesting word, the period tracker. Just imagine if you're tracking your 
period, what kind of information that says about you, and what that what information is being sent. But also travel apps, baby progression apps, anything that's free, pretty much. And even, although they didn't do enough study on it, even if you upgrade from the freemium to the premium model, the advertising SDK just sits sits there just sits in there. And whenever you open the app, it's sending data. Here's the here's a clip from this presentation, which I thought was a real eye opener 
about the true spying that's going on. So our first finding was that over 61% of the apps we tested, automatically transferred data. Before user has any other layer, they literally just opened the app. So it's 21 out of 34. So for example, his kayak, as you'll see, pretty much immediately from when the app is clicked, but first request is straight to crop up facebook.com. And it says a whole load of other data to many other companies. Besides, I 
could go on for a while. But ultimately, you end up on their home screen, which is kind of amusing. Because it's got this at the bottom of it. Don't worry, we'll never share anything without your permission. Are you able to hear this? Yeah, yeah. So you know, sending all this data I mentioned when I mentioned that kayak is the is the website that Obama, if you recall, used to promote endlessly. Oh, yeah, well wait, they have a little bit more info on Kayak in 
this clip. The top example here is kayak. And kayak sends your entire search to Facebook every time you do a search on their app, which is lovely. So and it's interesting what they send, because it's not just it's not just for the content of your search. It's also some other stuff like your user score, whatever that is, it's got obfuscated session IDs, and all sorts of other things that are sending to Facebook. The other 
one that's on the bottom here is the King James Bible. And it's quite typical of a lot of ways that app developers implement the SDK allows them to track your usage through the app. So this one actually told you watch first and passage of the Bible you'd read, which is what Facebook needs to know. Nerd God, but think about that. Facebook knows what chapter or 
verse you're on in your King James Bible app. But we don't do anything with your data. And then the last bit is the actual advertising data that Facebook users and this is a request to the ad network. And some slightly interesting stuff that comes from here is that you know vices on charge, the battery percentage is full. There's free space. And this isn't this isn't even the most comprehensive example, I've seen other data on there, such as 
accelerometer positions. Now the slight interesting thing, again, all linked with the, the app ID. So it's crucial to remember that this happens, whether you're a Facebook user, or you're not on Facebook, and whether you're logged in, or you're not logged in. So it's making profiles are being made, regardless of whether you're having a Facebook account, or you don't have a Facebook account where you have to use some of these apps and a profile is being built. People don't know this. This is really, really evil. And there are 1000s to give you the advertising you want, Adam? Oh, 
sure. Sure. Isaac targeted to you. Yes. But they're doing this before the app even is functional for you. You're just opening the app, and it's sending all this. That's what Chrome does to open up Chrome, it's talking to home base for an hour person and all kinds of stuff. Who knows? It's disgusting. It is disgusting as it should be illegal. I think it is actually in some funny way. Oh, really? Well, I mean, due to cookies. So 
there's a bunch of laws about you can't go on somebody else's machine and start using their storage. I know when you sign up for one of the browsers, it probably it probably has it in the house, at least when you sign up the terms of service should be illegal, the worst is Ancestry DNA. We now know that in their EULA. They actually. So if you get your DNA tested through Ancestry DNA, and you sign off like yeah, okay, this is good. I'm good to go. You can 
have my DNA data and you can process it, what you are actually agreeing to is a perpetual royalty free worldwide license to use your DNA for anything they want to do. Next to uncovering your ethnic mix, discovering distant relatives, finding new date details about your unique family history with this simple DNA test. But what's interesting is after I think it's three years, then that DNA data they have is no longer yours. It's theirs in perpetuity. But you no longer 
have you can use it but you no longer have any claimed ownership of the results of that test. It's right in their user licensing agreement. It's one of your another thing to avoid. It's hard to avoid EULAs Well, something's gotta be done about that. I keep seeing it little cracks in the in the ice, it's eventually going to happen. I think this will be this will be an interesting year for technology for more like deep platforming, people figuring out what what's 
really going on. It takes a long time for people to understand and for it to bubble to the top. And you need some kind of event with something that people can just point to a headline and understand. Are you talking about the normals? Yes. Your mom, not your mom, but the normal normal people. Exactly. It's true. Well, I got a well, a couple of interesting things happened. Oh, 
here's the one I want you to play. This is this. This is the spot to flub the clip. Changing the topic. Okay. Right into it. I want you to see if you can spot the flub down the government for border security. Chuck. It's Day 12 of the government shutdown as President Trump prepares for another White House meeting with congressional leaders, which you say is bleh bleh 12. Government, border security Chuck. It's Dwayne 12. Was this New Year's Eve wage? Well, 
where she hammered already? Wage well is is to do eight to 812 All right. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in China is John C. DeVore egg in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry also lead in the morning to all the ships at sea all the boots on the ground all the feet in the air and all the subs in the water all the Dames and all the Knights out there in the morning to the troll room. Hello, trolls. Welcome to 
Episode 1100 Thank you for all of you who've been here for the ride at no agenda stream.com where you can always check us out live on Thursdays and Sundays. I also would like to say in the morning to network Dolly, who brought us the artwork for episode 1099. And the title of that was Obama referencing Beto with Obama and we'd like to start work. It's always easy to do a Happy New Year or New Year's thing but this was a calendar spanning 2016 to 2024 with our Favorite screaming social justice warrior. You know the one on her 
knees screaming to the heavens that Trump was elected. A little arrow you are here 2018 I've already seen this one remixed online, people changing it to 2019. And it's the image is kind of Mimi. Like it is the new meme. It's a Mimi was good. Yeah, I thought so it was. It was a tough show to do a LMR. Four. But it wasn't a tough show to contribute for the next show, which is show 1100 So we had the 1100 obviously, $1,100 donation, 
which we didn't actually promote, but three people came in with that. We promote the $110 donation, but And these guys like they're all 11 101 of them does. Siza jumped, jumped to Deadline jumped to cued up to the top of the stack. Yeah, sure. Craig Porter. Ke zero UAK 7373 kilo five out of a Charlie Charlie FSA call yo, in Council Bluffs, Iowa, with $1,100.11. Hello, John and Adam on show 10 ad I wrote to 
ask for jobs karma in abeyance, since I thought I might get fired. And you guys gave me some good tips on how to cover my ass. We did. Well, it turns out I vaguely remember. But that's one of the things we were both good at me mainly for the government. Who's that I ended up leaving that job. I've been unemployed since October 30. But good news, I got a job offer in Portland, Oregon. This also the bad news. By the way. Starting at the end of this month job karma works. I also decided to 
get my ham technician license on my time off and I'm studying for the general exam. Very good. I have no idea what my peerage level is. I know I'm probably around vi count. But I don't want to go back over the years and find all the accounting maybe one of these days before I start my new job. If any other producers have an easy way to find out all the donations other than combing through the show notes. I certainly appreciate it. I'd like to request a full Al Sharpton jingle and karma shot for everyone who needs it. Congratulations on 1100 shows 
you guys are the best 70 threes. So it can't. She'll help him out. How's he gonna go through the numbers of this guy? I don't know. I didn't know. I thought he had no, oh, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, three years ago, he had a program that was using there was contact lists, whatever it was that you told him was terrible. Yeah, it was. Well, that's what did that job and now we don't have that anymore. No. So somehow this turned into my fault. And resist the much we must bear all Jide about a shutdown the 
tortoise in the race, then co author of Cobra asks you to lead singer Bono friends, triceps. We suspect Joe ha Sanaya. Rush Limbaugh. You've got karma. Thank you very much, sir Craig. Let's figure it out. Or I can. I can if since Craig sends this, I think he uses Pay Pal exclusively. I can probably go into the Pay Pal books, which 
believe me is not not funder friendly. And the worst part about Pay Pal is that it's a classic example of a web app or, you know, web a cloud app. You know, you click and wait, and just like an electron app. So you click and you wait, and you wait awhile, so I might get some somewhere. I mean, if he gives me some example where you thinks he thinks he's vice can work with that. All right, onward. Ladies and gentlemen. I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific 
Northwest. So it's Wayne melon song. That's right, everybody. Here he is. Once again. Grand Duke. So Grand Duke Dwayne Tigard Oregon, $1,100 ITM and a happy 1100 from the ground up the Pacific Northwest 2018 was challenging for donations giving and receiving there's a plentiful here's to a plentiful 2019 I hope so. What happens if the economy collapses? How would our numbers will look like it would suck? Cup? Not necessarily. 
Not necessarily really. Karma to Yes. Really. Karma to awkward producers and not this was a challenge. I think that would I said I don't know if Adam can do this one. A random Ocasio Cortez ISO, for all the freeloaders who have never stepped up ISO. Do I do even have ISOs from her Didn't we get some clips from her but no ISOs that I know of? 
I think Dwayne may be referring to clips, as the ISOs are very specific like two, one or two or three word pops in right. There'll be we specifically cut out to us at the end of the show or elsewhere. Let's see what I have here. I would support impeachment. I think that, you know, we have the grounds to do it. I think what really we need to focus on is making sure that we are advocating for the policies to win in November but ultimately, I think that what we need to kind of focus on is ensuring that 
no bad ideas no such thing as I got an idea there's no such thing as a good Cortes is nothing short enough. Exactly. And finally, Sir Patrick Coble, who is Norwich Murphysboro night $1,100. He's the one who helped organize the meetup in Sacramento. And by the way, we have a meet up tomorrow. mentioned a couple times on the show. It's a flash meetup at the 
Gilman brewery in Berkeley, from five to eight. This was interesting. This is something that Mimi put together Yeah, well, she's down here she wants to you know, she likes to do these things more than anybody else flash meet up. Why? Why does she like to do them so much? Didn't get out much I have no idea. She's like a gadfly up in Pacific Northwest. She just likes meaning. I think she because she's very compatible with the compatible knows that there's compatible, and she's compatible with the new agenda. 
Van bass. Yeah, well, she's completely compatible. Yeah, not compatible, I think is the word compatible. addable. Yeah. I'm thinking to some the Spanish phrase but as okay seems simpatico, let's say slash b and it was a flash meetup tomorrow it does this fabulous Gilman brewery. Nice. Award winning brews. You'll be there as well. Not just Mimi. No, yeah, no. Okay. Mimi is doing her own thing. Getting her OB OB they're doing 
her own podcast now. Pretty sure that baby will be there. Oh, the adorable. Yeah, she's gonna be there. He says a word now. What's the word? Ah he has New Year from the new URL. He's the URL we're going to have him up and he wants times are a changing is the is the intro to that job. Yes, I will do that. I would like to request some jobs, car jobs, speech and travel karma and anything from 
the rev to polish it out. Thank you for both thank you both for what you've done for all of us in 2018 was a great no agenda year. Are there any meetup updates for Des Moines to 2219 or Austin? Austin's coming stay tuned meet up in may perhaps now we're gonna do it way before then. Way before then back office had to donate another $25 to hit URL so the total for the days Ah 1125 So he jumps the line Nice. He's actually at the 
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climate change was dismissed by his university. My very lefty, your liberal sister listened to Noah Jim Genda once and felt it was too old men. Now when you wind up whinging, whinging, whinging while your sister's a bigot. She is a bigot. Like a good lefty, she does not let facts are a healthy debate get in the way of what a lefty believes is the truth. The US climate change and leftist agenda agendas have 
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of the newly formed California Division of mines and geology, and he wrote about this or he blogged it I guess blogging of the day. And And here's just to give you an idea, because you know, we think California is bad and it's all climate change just like they're doing in Australia. Yeah, he's he witnessed torrential rains that turn the Central Valley into a vast white cap Lake intolerable heat waves that made the fats of our meats run away and spontaneous gravy, violent earthquakes and fires he described as great sheets of flame extending over acres. Yes, 
it is a hell in California. I guess it was always that way. Yeah, I know. Well, just to bring it back home where I can look out the window see the mud flats, I have a map one of our producers sent me from 1880s or 1890s. Showing the mud flats on the San Francisco Bay where they were then and where they set a newer map showing where they are now exactly the same. Climate change is real. It's real. It's real. It's real. Shakalaka 
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so I see that Jordan Peterson and Rubin are still on this. He's still trying to make a new platform, kick, physically a new platform and they're gonna get a button we're going to be off Patreon and the 15th and everyone's moaning and groaning about Patreon and the guy this this Jack Dorsey clone as running it with the same beard, right, isn't it? Jack door Are Oh, the Conte is his name. Conte Yeti. Yeah, he's got the same Taliban beard. What is this 
Taliban beard look in Silicon Valley of late? I don't know where you live. You live there, you should know. I don't know, I won't have to ask around this listen to what they have to say. And because there's a there's one thing I thought was interesting. I got two clips. Here they are about hate speech. And there's an EB Peterson specifically mentions the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I think it's in agreement with the way where you can kind of just back up for one second, because we don't do enough of that. And I promised myself I do that 
starting this year, is we're talking about these two guys who are leaving the funding platform Patreon. Because someone else got kicked off. Somehow they think that these these platforms are necessary to take money whereas you can get you can get money to checks people can actually send you know you can wire money to someone's bank account. Did you know that John has this crazy, crazy thing we have unbelievable. I know there's all kinds of ways you can do it this pop money, there's just and you can even make your your bank send checks 
automatically. Numerous countless ways to get money. Now Zell is another one, which I'm still not quite hooked up to. But pop money works great. bank transfers or explicit swift transfers are, they're pricey, but they do work. And then you like you said, and there's a bunch of different systems out there where you can sign up, and then they will send checks. Yeah, you sign up through your banks. And you get pot, you get checks, they just come in an envelope is a bunch of checks, 
for whatever reason, they believe that they need to start a new platform. I know this is the most baffling to me. It's just it's it's very, very odd. Even PayPal is a platform on top of a platform. You know, PayPal basically covers for MasterCard, and Visa and MasterCard covers for the bank. So yes, I understand frictionless, but even the subscription model, do you really, to me, it's a little denigrating to the audience, you're so stupid to figure out 
how to send money to the show, we have to make it so simple. We got to charge your card automatically every single month. So we take it, I don't like it. We do that. Yeah, but no, I'm not not the same way Patreon does is different. Patreon does it per show you put out and all of a sudden, the money goes on Patreon is extreme this thing I do know that bitchute We might sit here and pitch about patron why not? Patreon is very rigid about the way we do a lot of promotions of all kinds of 
things like 1100 $110.11 $100 and things like that. And a lot of you know you set up a special button or a link to to pay pal on the sintashta for that amount. And it changes all the time. We're always changing. We have Valentine's Day and all this you can't do all that with patron you have to have your I'm a patron and I pledge $5 A month forever. Oh and you have 2500 patrons and you know this sort of thing and so lamed I think 
Peterson in particular who was making I think $100,000 a month or something like that on Patreon I don't think it was quite quite that high. It was high it was pretty high. But whatever it was he couldn't be making twice as much if he was just doing his own solicitations when but when I hear these guys talk and I've listened to them and I subscribe to their podcasts or I'll listen to and or watch probably more I listen more to it than watch you know the Peterson is also calling in everywhere talking about how unfair it is that these you know that you're kicked off the 
internet and I just don't agree this is a very smart guy who has not looked any further than you know the apps on his phone you can get around all of this all of it Yeah, maybe someday 100 years from now you won't be able to or even 50 Who knows but you can get around all of it this is these are not real roadblocks unless you unless you've put your painted yourself into a corner exactly the patriotic corner or some other corner with this you're relying on somebody else a third 
party NEC we do that with to some extent with Pay Pal but I've never had any trouble with PayPal actually like working their system. There's this belief the belief is so they're all on YouTube that's I think I think for Peterson and Rubin those their main means of distribution what I don't see them doing is saying hey, why don't I you know shadow this on bit shoot or some other place you know bit shoot is is is essentially Mastodon for video. You know, no one can really shut it off. Your videos 
will stay up though. There'll be vailable somewhere somehow, but they they feel that they need YouTube. And I understand if you've quit your, your job and you're making money through YouTube and you do not want to rock that boat, because they don't you see it coming down Broadway. I mean, how long before they're deep platformed off of YouTube, it can't be long. Even if even if for the reason that Google is sitting there going, I'm not making any money from these guys, screw them, take them off. And there's a million different reasons. I just I just don't understand it. Anyway, I digress. I don't 
understand it. These are smart guys. Which clip do we play first? The one thing I just want to throw in a couple of comments to it, it's always baffled me the peer group pressure that we even got to use Patreon. We had a number of people right oh, you should use Patreon. What you guys are doing is you can use patrons easier. Well maybe it's easier for this guy because he's a member or something he can just go bounced around it. I'll give him five five mix. And then patients says you for I don't 
know I just said the whole thing was we were against the idea of a third party like patron getting involved. You know you can do our banks will help you too. By the way most banks were not unless you're in the pot business. Yeah. The pot business the banks don't like that, by the way, but they're the government's if the government goes after, you know, these guys are bitching and moaning because they've been deep platformed by douchebags. It's not the government. If the government says hey, we're cutting this guy off, called Pay Pal. I mean, they did this with WikiLeaks, called Pay Pal. Hey, look, you 
guys really gonna make your life miserable? Kill WikiLeaks, okay. You want to go to the banks and say no, don't take anything if they can cut them off as best they can. But WikiLeaks is still going. They've gotten around most of it. And the point is, is I don't see why you would trust me if the government goes after you. In other words, what I'm saying is that if the government went after these two guys, Ruben and Peterson Yeah, then they had I think they have something to complain about. Yeah, but they're not it's not the government. It's just random 
douchebags, running these little Silicon Valley operations trying to make money off of you. And if you dive into MasterCard, they are all in on diversity. And they have the the sorrows that Soros gave the migrant caravan caravans, maybe not this most recent one, but it wouldn't surprise me. The credit card and debit cards, Master cards with money on it. Yeah. The most recent one that would I don't know which one you're talking about the one that came up from up through 
Nicaragua. Yeah, but they did the same. And cards. Yeah, they do this a lot of this stuff. So they have all these social agendas. They have Entire divisions, they feel that it's appropriate for their company, that to support certain initiatives and also to not support others. So well. There is a rumor going around that MasterCard put the kibosh on someone. Yeah. Yes. On the Euro cada your side of Akkad. Guy, whoever his side of Akkad. Yes, yes. If you read through the transcript of 
the trust and safety team call to whatever guy was asking about it. So ya know, MasterCard says, Yeah, you really gotta get rid of this guy. I'm paraphrasing, I find this hard to believe. Yeah, it's in the might be bogus. Well, we don't have the audio because the guy said he promised not to use the audio, but he used the transcript. So I don't know. I don't know if it's truthful. I think it is. Why not? It makes nothing but sense to me. I 
don't want to make sense. These two guys. Which one first SPLC first, how to re credibly diverse range of opinions. If such regulation needs for the last, well, it's really for the last year, but intensely in the last month, is what actually is the problem itself? Because until we really figure out what the problem is? Well, I think I think the problem is how to regulate an incredibly diverse range of opinions. If such regulation needs to be 
instantiated, we could take a limit case, for example, the desire of companies like Facebook not to have their platforms used for recruitment for ISIS, it's hard to make a case that that's not a reasonable restriction. Right. But then, but then the next issue is, I think you could make an exception there, because maybe you consider that a wartime exception or something like that. But then the fundamental problem to me seems to be and I'll return again to that change the terms website that a whole variety of 
companies and organizations spearheaded in not least by the Southern Poverty Law Center, that hateful organization, the worst that has decided that they're going to do Ah compel encourage. What the same, perhaps companies that don't band together to regulate what they see as hate speech. All right, Professor genius. Is he just figuring this out? I 
like Peterson but come on. The psychology degree didn't come with any business degree, I guess. No. I mean, they're either using Skype by the way, we use Skype to it. But are we are we totally prepared for a deep platforming from Skype? Yeah, I think so. We got other things we can use, we'd be sad. Because Skype really is a great product for how we use it. I don't we're not really Skype is really closest thing to a common carry that you can be because there's no Skype. 
Skype has all kinds of rules. Their whole new terms of service is you can't you use hate speech while talking to someone else on Skype. It's in their terms of service. I haven't seen that. Yes, it's in relation to me. All right, hold on. I will go to bing.io Bing it.io Does that imply that they're listening to all these conversations that they have one of those little you know, NSA word recognizing codes running and going? He said, Wouldn't surprise wouldn't surprise me. I don't know if 
I'll be able to find that quickly. But I really remembered play part two because this this one here, you just talked about is the certain naivety I want to discuss naivete after it plays this was one of the things that I can't fathom, in some sense is the lack of imagination on the part of the people who are engaging in censorship of what they regard as hate speech. Like there's an old military adage which is that if you invent a weapon it will be used by your enemy within 15 years Okay, so what what makes 
the people on the on the left because they're the ones who are doing this what as you can clearly see in the change the terms website what makes them so sure that exactly the same tactics won't be used against them at the drop of a hat once once the tactics have been validated and put in place polo Hello. Where do you think they got these tactics from? They got it from the right wingers of these family organizations that would pressure the TV stations not to play this not to play that oh 
that's right have a boycott they go after the advertisers just like these guys it's nothing I will and I will say it was the Christian right probably who's a Christian right now Christian, right the the Evangelic event jealous. And the rest of this crowd mostly a couple of organization pressure organization, I got it I got into a beef with one of them because I was promoting the dot x x x domain which went through and I got a back and forth and I got mentioned as a douche bag for promoting this and I was I went back and forth with him. So 
I can't remember the name of this group is one of the same pressure groups. So I said look, this is trite. The idea is to take the ball the point and push it over into a corner would have been required dot x x x and they didn't see it that way. They said that dot x x i was just encouraging more porn and I was a horrible person for suggesting this. And anyway you get into these groups have been around mostly on the right. They've been always I say most all of them or have been on the right and 15 years later, just like Peterson said the left is now 
using the same tactics. But he thinks it's like the beginning of something it's not. Yeah, this is a great American tradition thinking this is a great American tradition we D platform, we pressure we pressure you with public shaming, we pressure you with your advertisers, this has been going on for a long time. from Best Buy, we took the model we took from the Skype Code of Conduct you may not publicly display or use the services to share inappropriate content or material involving 
for example nudity, beasty ality pornography, offensive language, graphic violence or criminal activity. We may stop providing services to you or may close your account when they also block delivery of a communication like email file sharing or instant message to or from the services and effort to enforce these terms, blah, blah, blah. It was very clear and was a big deal. Everyone was talking about it. Well, I'm not worried. That's the least of my problems is working with Skype. But my point is, we're prepared for that, you know, but no one's going to pull 
by anything that happened. But pulling the plug on our distribution unlikely because we don't rely on it. I don't get a crap about Twitter. You care more about it than I do Mastodon or no agenda social.com I get I get a lot more out of that. It's really grown to not just just our network there all the time. You do not to lie. Lie, everyone's always tagging you. You never respond. Yeah, man for a couple weeks. You just lie. And people you 
know, as I said, I think 2019 People are going to start getting pissed off about this stuff. I love what's happening now with the where was this taking place? So in, in Arizona, where Wei Mo has rolled out their driverless cars. Oh, yeah. penises as predicted. Yes. People are throwing rocks at them slashing the tires, trying to drive them off the road with their own vehicles. I love this. Yeah, I this was I wrote this column years ago saying that 
vandalism, because the idea is great. I think the technology almost works doesn't quite, it's just still missing a few pieces. But I think the public has is they're not going to put up with it. Not initially, it's going to take years before they get used to seeing wanting these things. You know, they're convenient they are. But yeah, they're running them off the road. When in Oklahoma, there's a new trend called icing. Icing stands for internal combustion engine Ng, where pickup drivers park 
their trucks in front of the electric vehicle charging stations. And don't move. Yeah, there's backlash on all of this stuff. Yeah, all of it. But I think the boy man didn't. The stock market today. Apple got hammered for something. It's like everything's crashing again. And we'll see. We'll see how well the technology does. It's kind of it's like a small flaw. I think in Professor Ted's reasoning, it seems that it's 
certainly the American population, a percentage of its small is revolting against the technology tyranny, just against the tyranny. Yeah. What do you mean, the tyranny they've all you got to do this, you got to do that you have to have and you can't get any gas mileage, you can't drive a car, the V eight, you have to have a small electric car, you know, the death trap, you have to drive that you have to, but then you get free charging, but you don't get free charging when it first came out. Charging everywhere. I used to be able to go to Costco parking my electric car, I don't have 
one, parked my electric card, Costco, and there's a charging station, I can plug it in for free. Now it's all paid charging. You get a nice parking spot, but you had to pay to get your car charged now. So what happened to the free charging now there's no, there's no free lunch. And now we've got all this, Tesla's still some free charging. But then I think to some of you have made it adapt or so that text the charger would fit into anything. These things don't work these these schemes for all this technology. That's why we have China all over the 
DRC the Congo. That's why we've got lots of crap going on there. People jockeying position because they need the minerals and who else pops up in this and then you know, it's real. Blackwater founder, Erik Prince, yeah, love has launched a fund for electric car metals. Why I think it's metals for batteries more than just electric vehicles. This guy is smart. He's one of the smartest guys out there. I don't know if you 
run a fund though. That's a lot different a business. I just be a CEO is funded does the frontman foots gonna have to go was teamed up with one of the VCs, but they're all be embarrassed of. Oh, that guy we can we can hook up with him. We had to do our green thing. Yeah, yeah, he's the wrong he's the wrong figurehead, isn't it? Yeah, he's not Al Gore. He's not called Colin Powell. I guess I'm kind of saying, 
discussing Kleiner Perkins. I did learn some things over the New Year's break from the millennials. The word woke is out. You can't use the word woke anymore. Because yeah, because you should just be woke. And if you say if you say I'm woke, you're actually incredibly unwelcome. We understand. No, well, it's probably stems from the GIL Abrams slam, right. And 
you're right. You're going too fast. You're going too fast. Because I have a clip from NPR to explain to you that broke is over. And by the way, good. The concept of woke is not so new. You've heard the word a lot by this point. Woke woke. Yeah, woke. Your annoying friend probably uses it. You are so woke politicians and celebrities use it. To me being woke means that you recognize everybody uses it. Are you even woke? I want us to stop. First. 
What exactly does woke mean? It's defined as aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice. That's Emily Brewster. She's an associate editor at Merriam Webster the dictionary. The Black Lives Matter movement is largely responsible for the rise of woke this century. The word is tied to this idea of valuing and respecting blackness activist used it to urge people to take issues like the deaths of black people at the hands of police. Seriously. Nicole 
Holliday is a linguist at Pomona College. She says before that the word woke appeared in an essay decades ago. If you're woke you dig it by William Melvin Kelly. And that was in 1962 Kelly argued that once black words used to define certain aspects of blackness like cats or dig it once they got to white people, they were kind of over Nicole Holliday thinks that has happened to woke this decade it went from black almost fringe to white and mainstream 
so there's a couple of things in here that I that I found interesting one the fact that the exact way this is used woke comes from if your woke you dig it New York Times article which explains why Maxine Waters really propagated it because she's she was in I think he was in Congress in 1962 My Millennials stay Whoa. But the idea that it really means the same thing as diggit man groovy hip you hipped. I mean what they all is the same thing but yes, and the finger snapping goes with it. Yes. 
We just a cycle is just a fractal. We're just going around in circles once again. beatnik bar. But the but the moment the club was smoking reefer, listening to poets, the the minute white people because here's the racist part of it. The minute white people start using the term Oh, yeah, then it's over. Then it's then it's no good anymore. Who's dumb? Woke. Ben Shapiro wrote a call. He's Shapiro is a pretty good writer. I don't like him as a host, but he's a pretty good 
writer. And he claimed the term woke scolding for 2019. Never heard of it. Well, he's made. It's probably over. But Gil Abrams uses the term. Galera, allow me to remind everyone who Jul Abrams is. Obviously, I read I read The New York Times, like all day long, mainly on my iPad. The original Berkeley Hummer, Jill Abrams, former editor of the New York Times, Abrams, ex editor, executive air of the New York Times slam the 
time, I'm telling you. And unfortunately, we don't have a clip of her slamming the times because she wrote an article but this play this overall, takes on Article it's in the times, and her use of the word woke as a term of ridicule. She, it's in her book. Yeah, it's not an article. It's in her book. I'm sorry. I said it's in her new book, his new book, and she slams the times, the former executive editor of the New York Times Jill Abramson, criticizing that newspaper in her upcoming book, 
calling the Times News coverage unmistakably anti Trump. Let's bring in Howard Kurtz, Fox News, media analyst and host of media buzz. She's not going to be making a lot of friends among her former colleagues at the New York Times with a lot of what she has to say in this book, Hallie? Absolutely not John. But this is an extraordinary rebuke by Jill Abramson, the former executive editor as you say, it She not only calls the news coverage, unmistakably anti Trump, she says the younger staff, they're the woke staff members, as she 
puts it, are so concerned about what they see as the dangers of Trump's presidency that they want to throw out the old journalistic standards. She also says that, given the papers, mostly liberal audience, there's a financial reward for the times and running so many stories about Trump almost all the negative and that is soaring traffic. Yes, soaring traffic. Exactly. Yeah. I'm not so sure what the what good it does the country. So I'll just say some I, since this is a book that has not yet been published, I question what's really in there? This is 
your typical promotion. Who's publishing the book? Do we know? I don't know. One of the big boys. I'm not so sure that she slams the New York Times the way this fox news report said I find out when the book comes out. Yeah, it's great promotion. I wouldn't have known she had a book otherwise it would have just thought it was from an article. And the fact that she's not out there doing it herself with girl would love to her have her read the book, the audio book, the 
audio book, read. Yes, it's 18 hours law. It's a very good book was saying in the newspaper industry. Word is out. We know what's happening. Now, it was North Korea who hacked the LA Times and other Tribune Publishing related papers. Sure. North Korea? Yes, North Korea it was, yeah, the great hackers of the world, none of them are computer 
literate, they don't have it's not part of their, their culture. But yet, they're the best. It's the Ryuk ransomware. This is actually pretty fun to read a little bit deeper into it. And it's not really discussed much, I found a couple of experts who figured out what's going on. So they got hit by ransomware. And the Apparently, some of these papers or the publishing company itself, or whoever was paid out, close to $640,000. And if you see the emails because they send 
you an email, it's very professional, this is not your I saw you jerking off on your webcam, send me a Bitcoin, or I'll send it to all your, your, your your entire address book, this is very clear, they actually send along a key to decrypt one or two files. So to prove that they have the key, I say, Don't try any of these things, it will immediately destroy your data. So this was not just some hack, or some glitch. No, this was a ransomware attack, which they're 
blaming North Korea for. Whereas the only person you can really blame is your own network, or the entity. Know your network guy. Well, I hate to blame the dude named Ben. But yeah, well, there's a lot of incompetent dudes named Ben, as every dude named Ben knows. Yes. Yes. And I think that they, while on that topic, tell us how you back up. Chris, currently, 
what your current methodology is, so people can know what Max safety is, except for the one exception of not having something off site. First of all, all no agenda files are on a separate drive, I have a and that's duplicated. So I have two drives, all files, everything. The whole kit and caboodle 10s of 1000s of files is on that every after every show, and everything is backed up on this machine, and I make a clone of the drive. Because I know that everything was working and was fine. And should 
something happen. I can just pop in the new drive and be up and running. And I also do an a backup to the cloud. Magical cloud and a Cronus itself has some kind of ransomware protection. They claimed. Yeah, I'm not I'm not counting on it. But they do have some form of protection. I personally back everything up to a cassette tape using the Kansas City standard. Yeah, have you know, the Netflix has this? They tried to do this 
interactive movie. It was called Bandar dash. I think it's a black mirror. It's a Black Mirror production. Yeah. And have you not heard about this interesting? I think I've heard about it and didn't really pay much attention. It says I'm not into inter movies now. Neither neither am I. And in fact, when it started off, I'm like, holy, this is like CDI, if remember, complex EDS worse interactive, where you can choose the story line. And like Letterman, David Letterman use this joke. He said, When she 
says, Hey, I go to see a movie night right one right now I thought I would hate this. And I did kind of hate it. The difference was, and I think that maybe you mentioned in the last show that because the story itself is about that guy building a video game and adventure video game in the 80s. That it kind of makes sense. And it's very meta in that regard. But here's what's interesting that I heard yesterday, that a certainty you can end up at a difference, it can end for you 
differently than somebody else is probably eight different endings. But then, in that ending, the guy pops a cassette cut. I played it twice the guy pops a cassette tape into his Walkman. And it's the it's the good old. You know the sound of what my Commodore 64 or the make Vic 20 Or my ZX ad, you would record your program onto a cassette tape. Yeah. And I sat there thinking, if I was 10 years younger, I'd get up off the couch, I'd go record that and 
find an emulator. And you know what I was right? Apparently, it's it's Atari code. And then when you decrypt it, if you get an emulator, it pops up a rendering of a QR code. You sent us the QR code to go to some website and you get no prize. But there's a lot of it's, it was interesting. Yeah, if you're Yeah, you'd have to be about you said 10 years ago. Yeah. 10 years younger. Maybe I would have now No, I 
don't Don't think so I think maybe was through 40 years younger. I was. No, I'm old. Am I? No? Yeah, you're sure you're saying at the age of 4055 or 52 54k? You're 54. So you're telling me at the age of at the ripe age of 44, you're going to download that code and find an old Atari and go through the agony of hooking it up and then running 
this, this noise through it and getting a piece of a ir or QR code and banging it with your phone and seeing where it goes. No, Nana? No, you're not doing this at 44. All right. I'm glad you know me so well. I did not buying it. Okay, it's okay. You have too many things to do with your time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I got lots of stuff to do with Mike. Well, you got more to do than that. I mean, you've already you know, you're getting the solution is to let some kid do it. And then you can report it like you did on this dirt bike now. So you 
might as well have not done it. Yes. Somebody's going to do it. Let them do it. Okay. Here's a little report from CNN. And of course, I have it listed here in some way that it's impossible for you to ever figure out. But let's say it's a T H. They don't fly on broomsticks. They tend not to be bewitched. Donald Trump, you know, I call it a witch hunt. Than it is a 
witch hunt. Modern day witches are hard to categorize. Are you a good witch? Or a bad witch? Are you a witch? I'm a practicing witch. That's how I make my living. Yes. And which kind of witch are you? I'm initiated into Wicca which is the religious side of things. Witches tend to side with liberals and you know what they wish President Trump would stop saying about the Moller investigation. A witch hunt that's all it is. This is Jeanne most always does you like her packages. I think 
they're pretty stupid but you liked them. I like her packages because she's got a sense of humor. Yeah, she they are stupid. They give her stupid packages that CNN go on and on about Trump's use of the word witch and then throw it to her to have her do a package around ridiculous these stupid it's the package. I liked it, which is I like witches are liberal. That's great. 10 liberal liberals and you know what they wish President Trump would stop saying about the Moller investigation. 
It's a witch hunt. That's all it is the witch hunt as I call it. Russian witch hunt. This is a witch hunt like nobody's ever seen before. The author of witchcraft activism calls the President's use of the term really disgraceful. I mean, 1000s of people were executed in your suspicion of witchcraft. Salem witch trials with the devil, I'm keen suppose that witches were hanged. There's a lot to be offended by by Donald Trump. And I think his use of the term witch hunts is is very low on that list of 
priorities for most witches, but nevertheless, it does demonstrate his ignorance as usual, the entire thing has been a witch hunt. But if the President stopped saying witch hunt, he'd have to hunt for a new term tweeted someone I guess he will have to start referring to it as a wild goose chase but then that might offend geese. The last time witches got mixed up in politics, a losing Tea Party candidate for the Senate have to proclaim I'm not a whit, after having said she dabbled in witchcraft in high school. If there's one 
demographic President Trump hasn't put a spell on its witches. They'd rather put a spell on him. You my pretty and your little dog CNN than it is or whichever. You my pretty and your little dog. Damn is the same clip. Exactly the same clip. Cool. Got it? Yeah, witch hunt. Nothing is sacred anymore. I like it better when Trump picked on real witches. 
You know, like, like in this interview, Elizabeth Warren will be the first she did very badly in proving that she was of Indian heritage. That didn't work out too. Well. I think you have more than she does. And maybe I do too. And I have nothing. So you know, we'll see how she does. I wish her well. I hope she does. Well. I'd love to run against her. She says she's in the fight all the way. Mr. President, do you? Do you really think she believes she can win? Well, that I don't know. You'd have to ask her psychiatrist Boom shaka laka 
Boom, Boom shaka laka that was a good one. Yeah. he really would like her. I wish you would get it because it'd be a great battle because she's, they hate each other. But here's I got the Democracy Now. And Warren apparently is running. Yes, yes, yes. First one out of the gate. Yeah, well, so to speak, America's middle class is getting hollowed out and opportunity for too many of our young people is shrinking. So 
I'm in this fight all the way. Right now. Washington works great for the wealthy and the well connected, it's just not working for anyone else. But I am optimistic. I believe in what we can do together. I'm gonna build a grassroots campaign. On Tuesday, Senator Warren said she plans to visit Iowa this weekend, I was a popular first stop for presidential candidates. This is the first state to vote in the primaries. She's such a phony. You see her her beer moment that wants to 
them on all the kids are talking about? She's trying to do an AOC and she's doing a periscope videos. You know, AOC sits around his periscope in her apartment and make some depression mac and cheese and shows her how to mac and cheese may have to make some mac and cheese. And Lizabeth Warren sits down. And she's drinking beer from the bottle. And it's just not an attractive fit. It was Romney's you know, you need some more unique class in the office, get drink beer from a bottle and 
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damn them to hell, you bastard. You blow it all. God damn. He's not taking Lords. He say God damn. God damn them. God damn them. God fucking down in the hell seem upset. I'm frickin pissed, man. You know, they're given kids vaccines everywhere that eat their frickin cerebral cortex. No, I'm not really familiar with vaccines. Basically complain about the children being asked. God not me 
showing you. I like saying this crap. Let me tell you, I believe to kill people. I'm sick of this. Not literally. The point is I'm getting sick of this crap. This is why you don't do meth kids. He's the atom is just kidding. Yeah, of course. I'm kidding. Well, you're not kidding about not doing math. Oh, but the implication that Yeah, this guy doesn't need math. Oh, man. It's just he's high on life, man. 
Oh, I think yeah, he's, he's high on a Male Vitality or whatever that stuff he sells. Trump I think again, I don't think just sitting there cursing like, that is really the way to get his audience back. I don't think he lost his audience at all. I think he's doing just fine. Maybe he didn't know he was around way before. Okay. All right. He probably has not lost his audience. It's the casual audience the ones that only see him occasionally. I 
would include myself in that. Well, no, here's what happened to him. See, the difference is you and I, we accept our position in the media space, which is way down below on the ladder. You know, underneath some incurable diseases. That's kind of where we are. And we in podcast Yeah, we are podcasters we accept it. He can't accept it that he's no longer in the in the milieu that Pete That is no longer being talked about. That's I think 
that's his problem. He and He thrives on people talking about him good or bad doesn't matter. And now it's it's just vapid. You know, there's just no mention of him. Even with D platforming. He's no longer even mentioned. It's just removed from the room when they started talking about the biggies that were D platform. He is showing up less and less. Yeah, he's just moving down. And, and I think that that bothers him. He has to accept it. And that's where he came from. He was always the anti guy, because we don't need them screw the mainstream. And you know, I think it's affecting 
him. Anyway. I just thought it was it did I have not heard an a rant like that from him in a while. Just to just close you ranting about who knows? It's just angry. She's angry. I think the President gave us a little clue about stock market activity. He is the stock whisperer these days, you know, he used to just get the thing pumped up. Yeah. Well listen to this would have been a lot easier for me to sit back and just let it continue. But it was out of control. And our strong economy 
makes it even more difficult because people come up because our country is doing better by far than any other country in the world from an economic standpoint with the talk of the world. And we had a little glitch in the stock market last month. I'm going to tell us now he says we that normally I freak out over the use of the term glitch. But that's typically when it's in a technology report. Oh, well, yeah, the airline basically everyday ticketing broke because the glitch couldn't print the 
newspaper because of the glitch. Trump. You know, he's simple. You got to listen to what he's saying. I think he's saying here, that there was actually not it. Not that something broke, but that the stock market ran rampant as we discussed with the algorithmic amplification, and he considers that to be a glitch. Hey, except that so what you're saying is he's hinting to buy it. I'm not I'm not drawing that conclusion. I'm hinting that he understands somehow that these wild swings are not really based 
on anything. Then some piece of news and all the algos jump on you, man, I look at it, you'll see five different big company stocks all locked into like the s&p You know, the spy, the spy and spiders buy and it goes up and then if you can put three charts next to each other, they're just locked in. It's just convenient. And so if the algos go nuts, then everyone goes nuts and it just goes on and on and on. It's very dangerous. I did I mentioned that there is a meet up on Friday, five to 
eight at the Gilman brewery in Berkeley and you'll be there along with Mimi's It's fancy adorable. Come see everybody. It's gonna be fantastic. I was well, I have a moment here where I could do my whatever happened to oh, you know what you can do your whatever happened to and I will give you I think we have a jingle for you. Let's see Tom Starkweather what happened here? Whatever happened? Okay, yeah, 
yeah. Wow. All right. There's your whatever happened to jingle enjoy it. Yeah, great. That's real uplifting. Okay, for 2009. This is a this was a meme they tried to get going to get people to, you know, save the planet global warming. This is almost 10 years ago, global warming was caused by fat people kept dough on why researchers say obesity is bad for the 
environment. Obesity and global warming both heavy topics now linked by a new study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. It says people who weigh more tend to drive more and eat more and all that food. It shipped on average 1500 miles from where it's grown to your plate. Fat people, researchers contend are killing the planet more so than those who are thin. Yeah. Let's play it again. What happened here? Whatever happened? Okay, 
yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, whatever happened to that? That was we were on a good tip with that. Yeah, listen, 2009 they just dropped like a hot potato. When they looked at the audience of people bitching and moaning about climate change. They said, Oh my God, these people are overweight. Well, this brings me to a fabulous first show of chip Todd's what's his name? Chuck Todd, Chuck Todd, the Chuck Todd, Meet the Press whatever it is Meet the Press this Sunday. The climate crisis press Brace 
yourselves for dangerous heat or drought we're in is disastrous. Everyone ought to be worried about it. Rainfall amounts really are staggering. If everything was destroyed, rushing into the streets. I will hit it right now the strongest winds annual average temperatures in the US could increase anywhere from two to 11 degrees to fast moving fire storms within miles of each other. You can see how intense the flames are right now. The Garden of Eden just turned in the gates of hell. The evidence is everywhere. You can answer yourself. The science 
is settled. It's ridiculous to say it wouldn't be better if the administration in Washington didn't deny science, but the politics is not. Climate change is real. And it is urgent problem that we need to bear down on this morning we'll report on the challenge of climate change the science, the damage to our environment, the cost and the politics. Welcome to Sunday and this special edition of Meet the Press. NBC News, the longest running show in television history. This 
is a special edition of Meet The Press with Chuck Todd. Now wait for it. Hello, John. Good Sunday morning and a Happy New Year's weekend to everyone this morning. We're going to do something that we don't often get to do. On one topic. It's obviously extraordinarily difficult to do this. Oh as the end of this year has proven in the era of no noclip but we're going to take an in depth look regardless of that at a literally Earth's changing subject that doesn't get talked about this thoroughly on television news, at least climate change. But just as important as what we are going to do this hour is what we're 
not going to do. We're not going to debate climate change the existence of it, the Earth is getting hotter and human activity is a major cause period. We're not going to give time to climate deniers, the science is settled, even if political opinion is not sciences on real sure, we're going to hold a do a whole hour and we're not going to let anyone with an opposing view talk. Because it's settled, it's 
done. The science is in it's not how science works. It does on NBC. This baffles me, it doesn't baffle me at all that they'll push anything, anything they can, anything I have so I'm listing or I'd gone around looking for some a little offbeat. And so I ran into a podcast. That's where you can find the offbeat stuff for sure. 
This podcast is done by David Axelrod. Oh, goodie, former chief of staff for Obama. Now, Axelrod is also a campaign manager for excellence. Yes, he is. The who I don't know who does his podcast but it took me a good 15 minutes to equalize that. One guy shouting and why did you do that? Why did you why did you ruin the original? Well, we could have so much fun listening to this production 
up cuz I'm not taking the chance and you grousing about okay, it was just completely out of control. I normalized it enough that it's listenable. This is axial rod with of all people Jeff Zucker, ooh, from CNN. Yeah, formers suffer, suffer had a big treating career and I didn't realize he's had cancer and a heart operation and he had Bell's Palsy. And he said to everything in his life, he's 
only a short guy 656. And it talks about it in this podcast is a very good podcast, people should look it up. Just look up. Axelrod Zakhar podcast, I have two clips, which indicate to me that either Zucker doesn't know what he's talking about, or he's naive, or I don't know what. But they're very interesting because he was very successful as an executive at NBC before he took over the place. In other words, a low level guy who was much better than he was when he's running things. He's the one 
that put Leno on every night at Tan. Ruining network, good work. But let's just talk about him on he did fix to the to the today show by being one of the execs there, and I want to play two clips from him. And this one is the two events, click the clip clip. Now there were two events that also really helped us change the dynamic of the today's show. The OJ Simpson trial in 1995. I think we recognized early on this was going to be a real 
cultural touch point. And we we covered it intensely. And did you know went all in on coverage of this, which is a theme that I would later reprise at CNN when we would go all in on a big story. But the first time we ever did this was was on the OJ Simpson trial. And Charlie Gibson was the anchor of GMA, and he took shots at us in the newspapers by saying, I can't believe how much coverage of OJ Simpson they're doing. And my response was, Well, it's interesting. It's good, and the 
audience wants it. And then and then the and then the next thing that how can you stop stop? When he was at NBC and promoted the OJ Simpson trial, and NBC picked up on it the whole thing. If that, dribbled up to the to the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, who was trailing David Letterman, during this era, and Lana went all in on the Simpson trial by having the dancing Ito's Oh yeah, no whole bunch of 
gimmicks and crazy stuff about the the Letterman said that he refuses to even discuss it in his monologue because it's too, you know, creepy, so he just stayed away from it completely. Leno went all in the way Zucker did and Leno overtook Letterman and Letterman never caught him again after that. Ah, okay. And my response was, Well, it's interesting. It's good, and the audience wants it. And then and then the and then the next thing that happened was the 96 election. I'm sorry. When I was 
supervising producers, the 92 election. The first one was the 92 election. I took over I'm sorry, that 1992 election. Yeah. And that was an incredibly exciting election because there were three candidates. Right, Ross Ross Perot. Right. And we actually had a tremendous in with Ross Perot. And so we recognized his popularity very early on, and we had Ross Perot on all the time before anybody else did. And the other thing is, then we would start having Bill Clinton on for these hour 
long interviews when the when the history of interviews with candidates was you'd have him on for five minutes. Okay. We had him on for an hour. And then we had a uniquely qualified to do an hour. He was okay. But we took advantage of that. And then we'd have Bill Clinton on for two hours. So the entire Today's show was two hours, we'd have Ross Perot on for an hour or two hours. And so it was like, nobody could believe that this is what the Today's show was doing. But they were talking about us that we were getting, we were getting notices. We were 
relevant in a way we hadn't been. And so that is how we changed up to today's show. Hmm, interesting. So he's the one that pushed the the Clinton thing. Sure. I then had Ross Perot is Despoiler that take votes away from George HW would make Clinton got elected in 92. I think a lot of it had to do with this guy Zucker giving these guys this much free airtime two hours, the whole show free to Cleany didn't pay for it. Yes, but the brilliance of it is by splitting the Republican vote 
with Ross Perot. Even though he wins in both ways, he wins by helping Clinton get elected, and he looks like he's unbiased because he has two opposing candidates on and I'm sure he invited George HW Bush who wouldn't do an hour he may be five, six, but he's he was smart. Now, he still doesn't realize the power of television when he gives us this anecdote because he denies that all the excessive coverage of Trump had nothing to do with his election and he's 
got some rational idea, some rational rationalities to it. Okay. So let's play the other clip. And when he came down the escalator and did his thing, what was your reaction? So my reaction was, you know, a whole lot. Stop, stop. I want to do a little background. Zucker was the guy who helped create the show The Apprentice starring Donald Trump. Oh, that's good, but I didn't know that. And he was a big he was friends with Trump. And he said he always saw 
Trump as a natural, charismatic guy who always people just liked him and knew for no good reason, often, and he will. And he used that you leverage that because nobody else wanted to show The Apprentice, but he knew it was going to be a hit. Because this guy Trump was a natural at promoting and self promoting and getting publicity that they didn't have to pay for and stuff like that. So he was kind of a Trump fan from that perspective, start this clip over, please. And when he came down the escalator and did his thing, what was your reaction? So 
my reaction was, you know, the contents of that speech aside, when he announced was that look, I think that I recognized his popular appeal. I think that I understood from the apprentice and watching him and all of that, that there was a, there was a something about Trump and his and his character that was popular and I thought would, would work. And I do think that 
that's one of the reasons that that I had CNN pay attention right away to Donald Trump, because I think at a time, if you go back the first couple of months, most national news media organizations did not take it very seriously. CNN did right away, and we turned out to be right. Well, some would argue that it was a that it's a chicken and egg thing, that part of what CNN did was help. Yeah, I disagree with that. And I'll tell you why. You know, he 
announces comes down, the escalator announces, and three weeks later, he's number one in the polls in the Republican Party, and he and he holds on to that till it becomes the Republican nominee. So he was he was the favorite among that entire field, three weeks in. So I don't think that CNN made him number one in three weeks. Okay. I think that he had that appeal. And and we were covering the front runner, we would cover the front runner disproportionately in any race, so I don't 
I don't. You said something earlier in our discussion here that struck me and it leads to a question about this. And television generally, you said, the audience wants it. You And that is obviously something that's always in your head. Donald Trump understands that if you light yourself on fire, that's good TV. So you understand that as well. And you needed that was good for CNN, was it not? Well, look, I'm not going to apologize. I think what a lot of people want is for, you know, people to say that you 
shouldn't, you should apologize for giving the audience what they're interested in. And this goes back to the plane. And and we took a lot of heat for the poop crews at one time was, I think what we have always done, whether it was at the Today Show, or CNN is we've never been above what the audience is interested in. And I think this idea that, you know, you should only feed the audience spinach, and you should tell them what's important. I reject that. Well, wow. First of all, he's full of crap. 
But so are you a news organization or an entertainment unit of Time Warner seems like just pure entertainment. He's only talking about what the audience wants not what is news? I didn't hear the word news once. No, it sounds like there was collusion to CNN helped Trump get elected. He's kind of saying it. Well, he's kind of trying not to say it. Yeah. He's choosing his words very carefully. Very, very carefully. I predict for this year, John will probably be seeing a lot 
more of us clipping stuff from podcasts. I really do. I really do. Because the real letter materials, get some in depth. People that when you're doing a podcast is different than being another. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. camera in your face and all these things. Yep. Media. deconstruction will be more podcast in 2019. I'm feeling it. Then. Secretly little proud of that, actually. Yeah, exactly. By the way, yes. Meet up. 
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